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**Miriamel** · 11-21-2003, 01:09 PM

Goodbye.

**SSJChrono** · 11-21-2003, 01:23 PM

Bye? Maybe. But les hear your opinion on this. Are you afraid of Leib?

**Obsidiandragon** · 11-21-2003, 01:25 PM

Leib is right

I belive the moderater is right. I do not know what has happend but he did explain that you put the post up and if you wrote it yous should be responsible for your own actions, so sadly to say Bye to you, The Moderater is right

**SSJChrono** · 11-21-2003, 01:29 PM

I have no idea what I said. I damn sure dont remember anything Racist or Prejudice. And He deleted it. Didnt tell me what i said, nor any sense of what i said. For all i know I couldve wrote anything. He wouldve deleted it and said it was Racist. And he isnt the Moderator. He is a TOP LEVEL ADMINISTRATOR. Which is even worse. The only one above him is PiNG. That isnt how a community should run. This site is opting for SqaureEnix Community link.

**Rubik** · 11-21-2003, 01:34 PM

If you are really looking for opinions, I'll share.

The Conduct Guidelines seem pretty clear. Obviously I can't read the post that started all this but if it was about 'goth kids and their EQ are loosers', then I would see where a mod would decide to issue a warning. The issue only got bigger because you made it bigger. You were served with warning points which did nothing to diminish your ability to post to this message board. In your challenge to this warning you took a personal pot shot at the mod who issued the warning. You then made the situation public by posting it here in multiple forums, including in the title the words 'Very Important' (which it is not).

You feel you have been treated unfairly. All I can say to that is you probably violated the rules on this board in your original post and you definilty violated the rules in your handling of the situation. Rather than accepting the points and continuing to enjoy the priviledge of posting here, you made this issue into a public crusade. You probably will be banned and, if the tone of this post is anything to go by, you deserve to be.

As far as the mods here being Nazis, give me a break. People throw that word around far too often and it is extremely disrespectful to those who were the victims of the true Nazis. No one is preventing you from saying what you have to say. They are just telling you to say your mind somewhere else. On a board with different rules.

**lieb39** · 11-21-2003, 01:38 PM

Just to clear some things up, PiNG, Angler and myself are all top levels, and no one is higher, hence, you appealed to me, and you may not appeal again. Secondly, Privates messages are meant what they are to do, be private. And thirdly, your banning points.

I gave you your banning points because you broke the rules on many times. The first time you made racist / prejustice remarks. As I do admit I delete the post, located here, you can see some of your post in a quote, right here. You said in that post:

Originally posted by SSJChrono
god i hate american gamers, and that everquest/D&D shit... god i hate em so bad, fucking all this dark goth crap jesus christ....

The second warning was for this posting where is appears you seem to be mad at me because of the first warnings.

lieb39

**lieb39izanA$$ho** · 11-21-2003, 01:39 PM

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**Obsidiandragon** · 11-21-2003, 01:47 PM

I belive it is racist to. I honestly think you should be band and this post (and the other post that you posted should be del) But I am not the administrater. I also think that PiNG would ban that as well because it is racist and not right. Even putting it on this forum and the other forum is wrong to because Like the Mod said it was a PRIVATE Message. Between You and him. Not to everybody else which you have done. and Yes they read all the information you put on that post before they del.

**lieb39** · 11-21-2003, 01:49 PM

Oh, just realized that this is off topic for the forum that its in. Since we don't really have a forum for this type of stuff, I'll just move it into comments and suggestions.

-lieb39

**SSJChrono** · 11-21-2003, 01:50 PM

.... Oh well nm leib responded.

So you found it? So its because i said i Hate Americans Gamers? Everquest? D&D? Or the cursing.

Second Private msging.

What was I suppose to do? You said don't speak of this. I did.

Lastly... Its an opinion sorry for the cursing... Im used to a relaxed enviroment, where I can freely speak any which way.

Was it Jesus Christ? Cause if so, then your being Prejudece against my freedom of Religion. Finally Leib, The only group i was being Prejudice against, would be american gamers. Obviously thats everyone here. But its true. But maybe i shouldnt hate the players. maybe i should hate the Game developers, they are they one who makes the style of game. So am i really being prejudice against a race? Are American Gamers a Race of people?

I dont know, I just time after time, get in trouble from various forums for pissing certain ppl off. I think its because this makes money for you. I think if you didnt make money off of this it wouldnt be a big deal.

Well as promised, you found the post. You told me what I said, and as promised I will except the points, eventually I want them gone, because it would just be bitter on your part. I share no Ill feelings toward you, nor do i hate you. The quoted statement was a mistake on my part, but it is also an opinion, and I sincerly hope as a "Community" you do not bar me again , nor anyone else, to an Opinion.

*edit edit edit*

I did not post whatever that was that faker post. While i was writing this some jerk said you were an asshole (in his name). I do not believe this, however I do think you need to look at this warning system and make it more democratic.

**lieb39** · 11-21-2003, 01:56 PM

Yes, SSJChrono, I found it. It was straightforward why I gave you the points, simply the words

god i hate american gamers, and that everquest/D&D shit... god i hate em so bad, fucking all this dark goth crap jesus christ....

in bold there, did the job for the warning. It's our policy that we do not let go of the warning points, and this will be no exception. Now that everything is cleared up, I will close this thread now. Please contact me via PM if you have any more problems.

In response to your edit edit, No. That is the way the forum is run so that it is a pleasent experience for the user, who deserve it. We try our best to make the forum a pleasent experience.

Also, just for the record, SSJChrono copy and pasted his post 5 times in different forums, located here:

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/sho...&postid=231769
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/sho...&postid=231770
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/sho...&postid=231778
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/sho...&postid=231779
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/sho...&postid=231780

And of course, that does not include this post, which was in the ingame board, but moved here. If anyone has any concerns with the way I'm doing my job, please, PM me. I'm always open for suggestions.

-lieb39

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