Discrimination against Server Immigrants

[Olorin401]

I'd like to get an idea of how many people have run into this problem when looking into a server transfer, or after having done it. I was recently asking around on the subject and it seems that a lot of decent people are being insulted and rejected by the people on their new servers because the general misconception about server immigrants is that they are "escaping drama" or are gear/gil thieves.

[Sevv]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

I'd like to get an idea of how many people have run into this problem when looking into a server transfer, or after having done it. I was recently asking around on the subject and it seems that a lot of decent people are being insulted and rejected by the people on their new servers because the general misconception about server immigrants is that they are "escaping drama" or are gear/gil thieves.

I among alot of people got some shit when moving to kujata, it has calmed down more since the start. Alot of people saw their own shit starters move to new servers so they have that view. On the gil/gear thief thing when I moved, I lost alot of gear sets I lent out and lets not even talk about the hundred million gil I didn't get back lol.

If you are moving to a new server and applying to a ls be honest even with the shit you may have caused. I was overly honest on my app was about a page long listing every endgame mob I killed, exp, gear, about me, and ls history. I listed ever endgame ls I had been in (6 of them) and reasons why I left those shells. List references from your server and ways to contact them.

People should look at all server transfers with some disbelief because of what you could have done, post on all/ki/here if you moved and from what server to the server. I did it when I moved to kujata and made things alot easier, I still get the "lets show the ifrit boy how to do XXXXX" comments in exp then show them the parse #'s and they shut up lol.

It is the transfers job to show the server they are there for the good of the server and are trustworthy. It is like starting a noob rating again, be nice and help out in alot of /sh help calls and the server will quickly see how you are not a ass.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

I got two shit-starters from Fairy, one of them an old guest host from the LBR podcast I'm affiliated with at that, and they came to join my LS on Titan.

They told me how oppressive thier last LS was on Fairy and I explained to them we only required 2 attended events per week while online, which is pretty tame considering most endgame shells out there.

Well, I'll be damned if three weeks later they hadn't attended anything and they were online just as much as I was. And what's more is they turned thier nose up at the Limbus group we had and chose to join another. I kinda worked hard to get these guys in and they came in on the positive vibes of the LBR site more than anything else.

And boy did these guys like to argue. Sometimes about things that you'd hope a player would know after four years of player. Things like March not being a Haste song. And the dude's friend was a total psychobitch (really no better word for it, sorry) who'd threaten people in an instant ("I have screencaps").

They weren't happy if they weren't allowed to lead something. The Limbus LS they did choose to join they questioned every move and tried to boss around. They arguned with leaders just like in our LS and just like our LS that same week, they were asked to leave.

Upon thier departure from my LS, they decided to leave a big drama crosspost on LBR, Alla and KI. Funny thing is the people of Titan have really high standards for drama, so this didn't exactly make the cut for them and they ignored it.

They also kind of forgot I admit the LBR site. Important detail. I posted my response, pretty much detailing the above facts and locked it. And, of course, I'm Hitler to them for doing that.

Weeks later after the drama threads, I got a PM on Alla from the leader of an LS in Fairy about the two player. Same story as the two LSes they have been in on Titan.

So, yeah, server tranfer players aren't totally spotless.

[Sevv]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

Story about bad server transfers

BG Background Check Forum

This is your friend.

[Olorin401]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

BG Background Check Forum
This is your friend.

Interesting.. I'll hafta check that out.

[Sevv]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

Interesting.. I'll hafta check that out.

were you thinking about moving because there was a server less olorin on there.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

BG Background Check Forum

This is your friend.

I cross-searched them on various forums way back, including BG, and nothing came up in regards to repuatation, at least not as far back as I looked and for drama personalities, you shouldn't have to look too far. As far as BG goes, they were never mentioned in a post and didn't have an account there.

[Sevv]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

I cross-searched them on various forums way back, including BG, and nothing came up in regards to repuatation, at least not as far back as I looked and for drama personalities, you shouldn't have to look too far. As far as BG goes, they were never mentioned in a post and didn't have an account there.

You post a background check names and server, especially if their leader knew of their type of bs, the linkshell would know. Just don't do a search you post a bc and you may avoid it. Did you click the link or see BG and get bum hurt because your name was mentioned in brp's posts so you don't go to bg?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

You post a background check names and server, especially if their leader knew of their type of bs, the linkshell would know. Just don't do a search you post a bc and you may avoid it. Did you click the link or see BG and get bum hurt because your name was mentioned in brp's posts so you don't go to bg?

(1) If you haven't figured it out by now, I read "BRP" as "LOL." I'm flattered he obsesses enough to bitch about me on another forum, but I don't appreciate his petty attacks on other fine posters here.

(2) Background checks can be used for good just as much as the can be used with malicious intent. I'm taking some random stranger's word on another stranger. I could tell you that tell you that Xanadu(Ifrit)/Penello(Titan) is a leech, a golddigger and a thief. And she is, but that's just my word. Several morons will defend her because she has boobs and jobs thier LS needs.

Why?

(3) People look at LS job needs when taking in players. I touched on this yesterday in regards to "princess" job and valuing the name/reputation of a job over the player. Many, many, many linkshells recruit based on job needs alot, I hate that, but I can't make all these people change.

Different servers follow different recruiting trends, some dig deeper. Titan just isn't one of them and its hard to convince people to change that kind of thinking.

(4) I know Titan BG posters who thrive on creating and stirring up drama. I can't help but assume there are more like them there on other servers. And it is a growing complaint from what I've observed in lurking. As such, how do I tell the difference between a background check and a witch hunt? Who am I supposed to take as a player of good reputation and authority there. It sure as hell is not BRP, Asdrabael or lolMap.

As I said, background checks only go so far and only do so much good. Sometimes they won't tell you the whole story.

This is why my LS has started adpoting a trial period instead of background checks. Its not a perfect system, but if people are in it themselves, that system will prove it rather quickly. It will tell you how people attend events, if they follow the rules and how they behave. This way less time is wasted and less points go to waste, too.

Not a perfect system, but still effective.

[Olorin401]

Re: Discrimination against Server Immigrants

were you thinking about moving because there was a server less olorin on there.

Actually yeah it was. Interesting how all the usual losers came out to play.