Important Notices

[Yygdrasil]

Re: Important Notices

If I recall correctly you were okay with this but if there is a problem with this then by all means let us both know.

I don't recall making any such house rule. If you wouldn't mind adjusting it, I'd appreciate it. Again... it won't make a hell of a lot of difference in the long run.

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I figured it would update itself when I updated my cleric level.

I noticed the same problem when building NPCs. It seems that the moment you add an additional class to the class line, the system suddenly refuses to auto-calculate anything regarding either of the classes in question. It became clear when I originally tried to "auto-populate" the class skills after building the base stats and then even more clear when parameters like Caster Level remained conspicuously blank after the sheet should have been completed.

Also keep an eye out for your AC and BaB. When making some changes to my NPCs over the past few days I've seen certain things drop off the formula and require me to manually re-enter them. Specifically this happened a lot to my Dodge bonus to AC granted by the Dodge Feat. The +1 kept resetting to 0 and I can't figure out why. Just something to keep an eye out for.

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Nah you have to do Caster Level manually. it is a pain but it doesn't actually detect that (and only detects class skills automatically if you are a single class)

this part is important. Once you fill in a second class to that line, the Myth-Weavers auto populate system stops recognizing any future changes to either class... or at least most of them... unless they directly relate to Fort/Will/Reflex or other largely universal stats.

[Firewind]

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blargh I lost my original post because my laptop battery is completely dead, can't hold a charge and even with the adaptor in, likes to randomly go "Nope!" and turn off.

To sum up:

1. Skills - Pathfinder_OGC "Acquiring Skills" is very ambiguous in its wording. It is basically only two sentences.
2. Armando and I have been going with the "You can put Skill Ranks into anything that is a class skill" interpretation. I have put ranks into Stealth with Wizard levels as one example and I can remember Armando taking ranks in Intimidate with Cleric levels.
3. In the Short term it will be pretty significant to change my character's stuff. In the long term it won't matter too much when I get a few Arcane Trickster levels since I only have 6 ranks in 2 skills.
4. Whatever you rule is fine, just let me know if you are going with the "You can only take ranks in the class skills of the Class you picked at level up" interpretation

[cidbahamut]

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I thought you could put points into any skill when you leveled up and that something being a class skill just meant you got the extra 3 points of effectiveness for having any ranks in it.

[Firewind]

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Honestly I have no idea, I'm also not sure what Mezlo did with his skill points anyway. The pathfinder skill rules are incredibly vague and ambiguous.

Either way, Yyg is the DM and whatever he rules, I will go with.

[Armando]

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I thought you could put points into any skill when you leveled up and that something being a class skill just meant you got the extra 3 points of effectiveness for having any ranks in it.

That's what I took away from the rules as well.

[Mezlo]

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I thought you could put points into any skill when you leveled up and that something being a class skill just meant you got the extra 3 points of effectiveness for having any ranks in it.

Same. This is how i interpretted it. You can put points into any skill, but with class skills you get a bonus +3. So 1 point into a class skill gives it a +4, 2 ranks would be a +5 and so on.

[Firewind]

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Yyg can we get a definite ruling on the Skill Points thing so we can have everything sorted by next session?

[Mezlo]

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Unless Yyg is "Yyging" the skills, what I said is how Pathfinder treats skills and skill points.

"Each level, your character gains a number of skill ranks dependent upon your class plus your Intelligence modifier. Investing a rank in a skill represents a measure of training in that skill. You can never have more ranks in a skill than your total number of Hit Dice. In addition, each class has a number of favored skills, called class skills. It is easier for your character to become more proficient in these skills, as they represent part of his professional training and constant practice. You gain a +3 bonus on all class skills that you put ranks into. If you have more than one class and both grant you a class skill bonus, these bonuses do not stack. "

[Yygdrasil]

Re: Important Notices

^correct

[Mezlo]

Re: Important Notices

I also won't be on 2/9, my parents will be out visiting that weekend. I am on the weekend before that though, 2/2.

[Mezlo]

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This Saturday:

Mezlo: check
Aramando: check
Jarre: check
Cid: ?
Fire: ?
Yyg: ?

[Yygdrasil]

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I have to double-check.

[cidbahamut]

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Yes, I'm free this Saturday.

[Mezlo]

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This Saturday:

Mezlo: check
Aramando: check
Jarre: check
Cid: check
Fire: ?
Yyg: double checking..............

[Firewind]

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I'm free this Saturday.

Posting this now as a heads up, on Sat 9th Feb I will be at a family friend's birthday party. While I can get out of it, I want to go since it is a friend's party. It starts at 1930 GMT so depending on when we start, I might catch the end of the session or only miss the start.