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[Armando]

Re: D&D

Going by the rules as written, the hits from the Two Handed Fighting feats are bonus attacks (like Double/Triple Attack from FFXI) so you always get your off hand attacks.

Not in Pathfinder EDIT: or 3.5 to my knowledge

If you get more than one attack per round because your base attack bonus is high enough (see Base Attack Bonus in Classes), because you fight with two weapons or a double weapon, or for some special reason, you must use a full-round action to get your additional attacks.

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Personally I think the game would be better off dropping that rule altogether, but Yyg's the boss.

[Firewind]

Re: D&D

Ah right, my mistake then.Also the prestige stuff is making me consider scrapping all ideas of going Arcane Trickster due to the whole 7th-10th level stretch and AT being really underpowered until you have a few levels in it (so I'll just be a liability in combat until the end of the campaign basically)

[Armando]

Re: D&D

Also, don't worry about Divine Scion Yyg, Holy Vindicator is way more up the combat cleric alley, especially since it juices up any self-healing I do. Was hoping to unlock it sooner, but taking Cleric to 10 won't gimp me in any way. Sorry to hear you can't go Arcane Trickster though, Firewind.

[cidbahamut]

Re: D&D

... and spent all day yesterday cleaning the house and learning to cook some food-stuffs I was until now... unfamiliar with.

What did you cook?

[Yygdrasil]

Re: D&D

A dish called "Porkchops Aloha". If you're interested... I'll give you the recipe. It's actually quite good... and easy enough to make.

[Firewind]

Re: D&D

Well I could go Arcane Trickster but it depends on how much the group would work with a Rogue that has hardly any skill ranks and hardly any arcane spells worth using until about 13-15th level, possibally later depending on if I choose to gimp my spell progression with Rogue levels or skills with Wizard levels It's one of those PrCs that gets the most benefit from being taken early on but oh well.

[Armando]

Re: D&D

You guys can all do whatever, I don't really mind. Besides, I've always wondered what happens when a party wipes in D&D.

[cidbahamut]

Re: D&D

A dish called "Porkchops Aloha". If you're interested... I'll give you the recipe. It's actually quite good... and easy enough to make.

Hook me up. Things that are both delicious and easy to make are always a welcome addition.

[Fliegar]

Re: D&D

I assume the DM pours himself a drink, laughs hysterically, and then tears your character sheets into pieces.

[cidbahamut]

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You guys can all do whatever, I don't really mind. Besides, I've always wondered what happens when a party wipes in D&D.

Probably depends on the DM, but rolling new characters is often involved from what I understand.

Likewise I'm down with whatever you guys want to do with your characters. I'm probably going to end up going pure Rogue regardless.

[Yygdrasil]

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I call it... confetti of death.

[Firewind]

Re: D&D

After sleeping on it...I think I can make the AT work with a Rogue4/Wiz6/AT10 build. I lose out on 9th level spells but I won't be able to cast them until 20th level anyway (And I can only prepare 1/day at 16th Level anyway) and the only one really useful to an AT is Meteor Swarm because you can stack Sneak Attack damage on each AoE hit thanks to the AT capstone ability. What I DO gain however is An extra Rogue Talent, Uncanny Dodge, +1 BAB and 10+ more Skill ranks (Depending on my INT bonus for when I take the 4th Rogue level).

As for Pure Rogue, I'm thinking of gunning for an Archery build

Quick question Yyg for if I go AT: I didn't declare a favoured class at the beginning so if I was to take some levels in Wizard, would I be able to declare that as favoured for the extra skill rank?

Also

Is the campaign going to reach Lv20? I'm asking this because there's no point in gimping myself in and out of combat at Lv10 to make a character awesome at 20 if we will never reach 20

Quick question to everyone else for if I go Pure Rogue: I'm thinking of going Archer Rogue and Shatter Defences is an awesome feat for gaining ranged sneak attacks. Would anyone consider taking either Dazzling Display with me or getting spells/abilities that would cause Shaken, Frightened or Panic? SD basically means that both Cid and I can automatically sneak attack anyone with those status effects for our next two turns (Assuming Cid grabs Shatter Defences too). Weapon Focus is easy to get as a Rogue since you can buy it with a Talent.

[Armando]

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Is the campaign going to reach Lv20? I'm asking this because there's no point in gimping myself in and out of combat at Lv10 to make a character awesome at 20 if we will never reach 20

I asked the same thing on Skype before the last session, Yyg said he had enough content to reach level 30.

Quick question to everyone else for if I go Pure Rogue: I'm thinking of going Archer Rogue and Shatter Defences is an awesome feat for gaining ranged sneak attacks. Would anyone consider taking either Dazzling Display with me or getting spells/abilities that would cause Shaken, Frightened or Panic? SD basically means that both Cid and I can automatically sneak attack anyone with those status effects for our next two turns (Assuming Cid grabs Shatter Defences too). Weapon Focus is easy to get as a Rogue since you can buy it with a Talent.

Grabbing Dazzling Display would be costly to me since I don't have Weapon Focus. I do have my Cause Fear spell, but that'll stop working once enemies get more than 5 Hit Die. Edit: I do get Sonic Burst at level 5 (second-level spell.) Does damage in a 10-foot area and stuns anyone who fails a Fortitude save. EDIT2: There's also a metamagic feat called Flaring Spell that'll allow me to daze people with fire/light/electricity spells.

[Firewind]

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If we have enough material to hit 30 then I will be seriously considering the Arcane Trickster build then. We already have a Rogue and this gives us more diversity and I can slot it into my character's backstory. ATs have a ton of out of combat uses too, the 10-13 range is going to suck for me but I think the out of combat utility will make it less painful. That and I can just go into a Support Role in combat anyway for that range.

Daze effects will be very useful for us since it is one of the effects that allows Rogues to Sneak Attack with impunity. Since we have 2 Rogues you can probably guess as to how useful that would be.

[Armando]

Re: D&D

I suppose it's a good thing you all are ranged attackers then because otherwise using Sonic Burst would be quite difficult.

EDIT: Suppose someone were to cast Enlarge Creature or whatever it's called on me, turning me into a Large creature that takes up 4 squares. If I cast a spell with a 10-foot radius, would the radius be calculated off one of my four squares, or would it extend 10 feet beyond all 4 squares of my body?