General Discussion

[Mezlo]

Re: Important Notices

Yyg, a question. Since I leveled before we actually made a break into the next room, I leveled while we were planning what we wanted to do, it just wasn't stated that I leveled until the end of the session after we had thrown Fire up the wall, I'm wondering if i can cast a spell prior to us going into the next room. If I had been notified I leveled, I would have cast this spell prior to make our invasion into the next room. Is that cool?

(Man I can't wait for next session... Saturday hopefully)

[Firewind]

Re: Important Notices

Looking at what is going on. I think I can make a dash for the nexus controls and use them (assuming the box thingy on the map next to the ladder at the top are the controls for it because Yyg didn't actually say what was what due to alcohol) without much of a problem.

Consider what I have:

AC 24 from Mage Armour, Shield and Protection from Evil (given that everything here is Evil and all of those DO stack due to them giving different bonuses to AC). That gives me AC 27 if I fight defensively and AC 30 if I use Total Defence due to me having over 3 Ranks in Acrobatics.
Mirror Image (To Jarre and Mezlo: They basically give me Utsusemi Shadows) and Vanish
+21 to Acrobatics due to the Scroll of Jump being active for 3 minutes.

So I can last up there for a while while you guys climb up.

Also question to Ygg: Does Protection from Evil give me the +2 AC Deflection Bonus and +2 to Saves against Mezlo if he actually is Evil now? If so it does make Mezlo a whole lot easier to take into account for any future battle plans

[Armando]

Re: Important Notices

Yeah, that's why I didn't have any qualms with sending you up there. I'd bet the mooks need natural 20s to hit you. Maybe Tusk has a better chance, but even then...

[Mezlo]

Re: Important Notices

Also question to Ygg: Does Protection from Evil give me the +2 AC Deflection Bonus and +2 to Saves against Mezlo if he actually is Evil now? If so it does make Mezlo a whole lot easier to take into account for any future battle plans

You can't dodge my force missles... punk.

[Firewind]

Re: Important Notices

Actually I have Shield up so I can

Shield creates an invisible shield of force that hovers in front of you. It negates magic missile attacks directed at you. The disk also provides a +4 shield bonus to AC. This bonus applies against incorporeal touch attacks, since it is a force effect. The shield has no armor check penalty or arcane spell failure chance.

https://sites.google.com/site/pathfi...pells/s/shield

[cidbahamut]

Re: Important Notices

He can if he has Shield prepared.

[Mezlo]

Re: Important Notices

You can't block my bolts of death.

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(Remember this is true from past experience...)

[Armando]

Re: Important Notices

You can't block my bolts of death.

I don't know. Mirror Image is pretty hax.

[Firewind]

Re: General Discussion

There is also the sheer number of buffs up on my character, and the fact that I'm fairly sure that the rest of the party plus the Hammerdin will have something to say about you opening fire on a party member

[Yygdrasil]

Re: Important Notices

Also, also. I'm stoked Yyg is letting me class into Arcane Archer even though I'm not an elf and even though I use crossbow instead of bows.

I'm letting you be arcane archer. You would still need to use a bow though. Crossbows will not be permitted.

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Yyg, a question. Since I leveled before we actually made a break into the next room, I leveled while we were planning what we wanted to do, it just wasn't stated that I leveled until the end of the session after we had thrown Fire up the wall, I'm wondering if i can cast a spell prior to us going into the next room. If I had been notified I leveled, I would have cast this spell prior to make our invasion into the next room. Is that cool?

(Man I can't wait for next session... Saturday hopefully)

The Level up will take effect at the end of the combat you're engaged in in this room. Nobody should be resetting spells or changing anything until the end of this current combat. Sorry for the confusion about that. I was drinking scotch at the end of last session. My attention span was shot.

In other words no. No spells are being cast retroactively.

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Looking at what is going on. I think I can make a dash for the nexus controls and use them (assuming the box thingy on the map next to the ladder at the top are the controls for it because Yyg didn't actually say what was what due to alcohol) without much of a problem.

Also question to Ygg: Does Protection from Evil give me the +2 AC Deflection Bonus and +2 to Saves against Mezlo if he actually is Evil now? If so it does make Mezlo a whole lot easier to take into account for any future battle plans

Booze was not the issue here. I didn't tell you what was where because you entered the door on the ground floor of a 100 foot tall spiraling room. Those controls you see are on the top level. You couldn't see them if you wanted to.

Also: Yes protection from evil would grant you bonuses to deflect Mezlo's arrows in the unlikely event that he attempts to take your life again.

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To sum it everything up in bulletins:

1. Treat the remainder of the combat in this last room as if you have not yet leveled up. Apply your new stats at the end of combat.
2. Protection From Evil protects you from Mezlo
3. Mirror Image is Hax
4. Poison Arrow is simply called Poison Arrow in PF
5. Nobody can see anything on the levels above them. The floors are not transparent. The fact that you're all instinctively trying to jump to the top level leans in the direction of metagaming based on your out of game knowledge of the map layout. Cut it out.

[Armando]

Re: General Discussion

5. Nobody can see anything on the levels above them. The floors are not transparent. The fact that you're all instinctively trying to jump to the top level leans in the direction of metagaming based on your out of game knowledge of the map layout. Cut it out.

Wait, what? Kalad knew the layout of the room didn't he? It's impossible for us to see what's up there, but we should've at least known that we needed to move up.

[Yygdrasil]

Re: General Discussion

Sure, but Kalad hasn't even entered the room yet. You guys bust the doors open and rushed in with the "Get up there Nao" tactic. Nobody asked Kalad what was where or what to do next. Assume you get up there. Do you know how to deactivate the Nexus? Does it have to be Kalad that does it?

Important questions with assumed answers.

[Armando]

Re: General Discussion

Sure, but Kalad hasn't even entered the room yet. You guys bust the doors open and rushed in with the "Get up there Nao" tactic. Nobody asked Kalad what was where or what to do next. Assume you get up there. Do you know how to deactivate the Nexus? Does it have to be Kalad that does it?

Important questions with assumed answers.

Fair enough. However, we did state that the next step was to get everyone else up to Firewind's level by using the immovable rod and rope (except for Mezlo who offered to act as a diversion by taking the stairs.) We don't know yet if there's any casters nearby, so nobody can assume Firewind can survive indefinitely.

As for Fire's comment about the control box, he's probably just assuming that he can see it now that he's up there. We would've moved upwards regardless of it actually being drawn on the map or not.

[Yygdrasil]

Re: General Discussion

I don't remember any climbing checks being made to get him to the top. It was my assumption that we ended mid-plan. He's up there? Was I drinking that much? I mean I'll believe it, but I don't remember it.

That being said... I woke up on Sunday worried that I had walked away from the session and never come back. I had absolutely no memory of the end of the session. The last 20 minutes or so have been explained to me in bits and pieces.


I had 3 beers and 1 glass of scotch. How that created a black-out is beyond me. I can handle 3/4 of a bottle on any other day and be just fine. Maybe I didn't eat enough?

[cidbahamut]

Re: General Discussion

Did you really black out the entire elf tossing session?