Miyamoto: Metroid still important to us

[Malacite]

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I didn't just mean the eggs when I said Metroid II, hence why I said it afterwards. That entire game - hell the series itself has felt like a massive parody of aliens right down to the scientists trying to cultivate more Metroids from the last surviving baby (Alien Resurrection).

[Icemage]

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I didn't just mean the eggs when I said Metroid II, hence why I said it afterwards. That entire game - hell the series itself has felt like a massive parody of aliens right down to the scientists trying to cultivate more Metroids from the last surviving baby (Alien Resurrection).

???

Super Metroid uses that plot. It was released in 1994.

Aliens Resurrection was released in 1997.


Icemage

[Malacite]

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Whatever, just saying the similarities exist on multiple levels

[Icemage]

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Whatever, just saying the similarities exist on multiple levels

I really don't get where you're seeing the similarities. Just because they're in space and deal with alien creatures, they're similar?

Aliens is a space horror franchise. Metroid is many things, but "horror" isn't anywhere in its lexicon. You're never outgunned in Metroid, and rarely outnumbered in the way the storylines in Aliens unfold.

Metroid is a futuristic exploration + combat game. The Prime games are (mostly) first person, and the others are sidescrollers of one type or another, but that's what they're really about: wandering around environments in deep space, getting Cool Things, and using them to blow away multitudes of enemies. None of which really happens in Aliens.


Icemage

[cidbahamut]

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Aliens is a space horror franchise. Metroid is many things, but "horror" isn't anywhere in its lexicon.

I disagree entirely. When I was young and stupid Super Metroid was often terrifying. Horror might not be its objective, but it's certainly a component or at least a by product of the experience. Plopping you onto a strange and hostile landscape with gloomy weather and leaving you to slowly descend to the depths of the deepest darkest caverns where monstrosities await you, all the while playing increasingly haunting melodies...Yeah, that's a game that's going to work its way into your head and make you a bit jumpy. It's part of what made Super Metroid so brilliant; It was able to incorporate some of the strongest elements of horror games without actually being a horror game.

[Malacite]

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Yeah the whole abandoned ship area + Phantoom threw me for a loop as a 10 year old >.>

[Mezlo]

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I disagree entirely. When I was young and stupid Super Metroid was often terrifying.

/runaway ?

Cid and his D&D character share many similarities, lol...

[cidbahamut]

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Have you even played Super Metroid?

[Mezlo]

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Is a frog's ass water tight?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Aliens is a space horror franchise. Metroid is many things, but "horror" isn't anywhere in its lexicon. You're never outgunned in Metroid, and rarely outnumbered in the way the storylines in Aliens unfold.

- Walking into Tourian for the first time without an Ice Beam
- Returning to Tourian the second time and stopping just short of the first entrance, reluctant to enter. Heart pounding.
- Every time I ran into an Omega Metroid:


I mean, sure, you were probably 19 or 20 when you saw that. I was 13 o 14 . That was nightmare fuel in 8-bit spinach green form and it still kind of is.

- Crocomire
- Draygon, Phantoon and Nightmare are freakshows Tetsuta Nomura, Kazuma Kaneko and the Silent Hill artists can only wish they dreamed up.
- When the hatchling attacks you
- When metroids go "squee' in the MP games, I usually go back through the door I enter and make sure the Ice Beam is equipped or the Super Missiles are ready.
- Phazon-maddened Chozo ghosts.
- The SA-X is pretty much the classic Xenomorph encounter in Alien. Or anytime you heard "STAAAARRRRRRSSSSS" in Resident Evil 3. Its time to fucking run and hide.

And seriously, every corner of just about every entry in this series is full of ruin, decay or death. Its probably why I like Fallout, Dark Souls and Shin Megami Tensei as much as I do. The music and atmosphere is seldom focused on beauty or peace and something is usually waiting around somewgere to fuck you over.

The Metroid series is probably what gave me a strong concept of what dread felt like. It later resurfaced with report cards, sure, but for games it wasn't something i felt again until Resident Evil. Metroid was scary.

[Malacite]

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^ for once I totally agree. Well, I still don't care for fallout, but yeah I was only like 10 or 11 when I 1st played Super Metroid and it creeped the hell out of me. I've loved the series ever since.

Hell even just seeing Mother Brain for the 1st time at the end (and the gigantic hatchling going to town on her) was trippy.

[Icemage]

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ITT: People who think "horror" = things that scare a child.

SMDH.


Icemage

[cidbahamut]

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ITT: Icemage doesn't understand the importance of atmosphere.

[Icemage]

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There's a huge gulf between what Metroid does with worldbuilding that says "this is alien and unexpected" and "this is supposed to be scary". The two are not synonymous, and I dislike the sort of intellectual dishonesty going on when people try to conflate the two.

Last time I checked, every Metroid game was still a nice, safe (T)een or PEGI-15 rating, or lower.

Dead Space is a horror game. Metroid does not qualify - not in any of its many incarnations.


Icemage

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Atmosphere and dread are such a important part of horror.