E3 2013 Schedule

[DakAttack]

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It's like Armando said, you can't just go to the city and buy a bag of quality internets to bring home. You can't buy something that isn't being sold.

And you can't sit in a shack in the middle of a swamp and expect the world to cater to you. If the internet means that much to you, you'll find a way.

[cidbahamut]

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What about sitting in a suburban neighborhood? ISPs are awful.

[DakAttack]

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Change has to start somewhere.

[cidbahamut]

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Yes, but how does dicking over gamers change the fact that ISPs are awful?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Comcast, Time Warner, Verizon and AT&T haven't changed or expanded in the last decade and a half and we've had the emergence of iTunes, Steam, Netflix and Hulu and these ISP are now offering less for more than they did in that time.

Xbox One will not change them. The FCC does nothing to these big ISPs because it is corrupt from within. About all we can hope for is Google Fiber to come in and disrupt the existing markets or pray a newer, more accessible model emerges.

[Malacite]

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What about sitting in a suburban neighborhood? ISPs are awful.

This. Even though I live in the nation's capital, I'm in something of a suburb and well, both the ISPs we have here suck. Of course, that's also largely due to the CRTC letting Rogers & Bell get away with murder while simultaneously cockblocking any and all competition to them.

[DakAttack]

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Yes, but how does dicking over gamers change the fact that ISPs are awful?

I think you're overestimating the amount of people this would inconvenience. 10Mbps is pretty common. Upping the minimum requirement to 2Mbps would cut out some of the chaff and the results would be fairly noticeable while playing online games.

[cidbahamut]

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I guess I'm just failing to see how this benefits anyone or forces ISPs to expand their coverage areas.

[DakAttack]

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Money is often more convincing than words.

[Malacite]

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I think you're overestimating the amount of people this would inconvenience. 10Mbps is pretty common. Upping the minimum requirement to 2Mbps would cut out some of the chaff and the results would be fairly noticeable while playing online games.

I'm actually gonna have to side with this to a degree. As long as most FPS games are going to be using P2P (though apparently TitanFall will have dedicated servers which is nice, as will BF4 naturally) there's going to be times (which for me is a lot, and a big part of why I end up raging quite a bit on said games) where the guy with the shitty, barely-passable internet connection pulls host and then proceeds to beast mode on everyone else because of it.

Really, really sick of that shit. Matter of fact, wasn't this precisely why FFXI was capped at 56k?

[Firewind]

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I think you're overestimating the amount of people this would inconvenience. 10Mbps is pretty common. Upping the minimum requirement to 2Mbps would cut out some of the chaff and the results would be fairly noticeable while playing online games.

I think you're overestimating the global population that even has a 2Mbps connection, never mind 10Mbps, or one that is even stable at that speed.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Money is often more convincing than words.

The sign of a broken model is when nothing changes or the changes are made to keep the same amount of money flowing to businesses while nothing really improves and the consumer foots the bigger bills.

Many ISPs provide services that, to a consumer, are obsoleted by newer, cheaper online services like video streaming. But rather than compete, which ISPs hate, they started bandwith capping or issuing tiers of internet speeds (which they'll gleefully throttle lower anyway). They do this because its the only thing they can do to make thier services look attractive - by creating the illusion of newer services seeming inferior. Its a botox fix, but they'll stick with this as long as it can serve them.

Xbox One isn't bringing change, its just injecting botox into the current gen to keep the withering botox-fueled AAA publishers happy.

[cidbahamut]

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It's also way more profitable for them to do that than to actually lay new cable to reach those nebulous pockets of internet limbo that exist.

[Malacite]

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Because who gives a rat's ass about infrastructure!

[DakAttack]

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I feel like you guys understand what I'm saying, and are just being argumentative.