New info from EA - BF4 & More

[Malacite]

So, mostly BF stuff, but 2 big takeaways;

- EA is dropping the casual focus, since it didn't pay off for them financial (thank goodness)
- Micro-transactions will be a part of every EA game from hear out.


It's the 2nd part that perturbs me. Generally, I don't mind them if it's either mostly cosmetic, or doesn't negatively impact either my gameplay experience or the balance of the game in an MP setting. I'll give 2 examples;

- In planetside 2, there's all kinds of stuff you can ONLY get if you pay for it, some of it is really strong too, which is total bullshit. Hawken has stuff that you can pay to unlock, or grind normally but if you do so that way it'll take ages - this is also BS.

- Dead Space 3 lets you buy little extra perks for your Scavenger Bots, Resource Packs (which can be paid for with in-game ration seals which are easy enough to get but also wholly unnecessary for veteran players like myself) and then there's a few weapon & costume packs you can buy as well (only the resource can be paid for with seals). All of it is pretty much optional and there to help out n00bs/idiots willing to pay money and honestly doesn't change the game in any meaningful way, good or bad. This is fine, this a model I can live with. I really don't get why so many people flamed the game over this when it's largely inconsequential - the only MP is co-op, which is totally optional and you can always set a private game so only friends can join in if you're worried about someone joining your game with OP equipment and thereby killing the challenge.

I honestly think people were just looking to bitch about something (and there's plenty to bitch about with DS3 but this wasn't one of the key grievances).

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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The problem with DS3's microtransactions is the tactless prompt it shoves in your face EVERY time you go to make a weapon. Its like the tactless prompt that came at the ending of ME3 about DLC.

They're ads. No one likes the ads. If we care about the shit you're selling, we'll go look for it.

[DakAttack]

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Why did I watch that video? It's just BF3.

[Malacite]

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It's BF3 footage, but I posted it for the stuff he says in it.

I don't get what you mean by tactless prompt. You go to the bench, you have your normal options, and there's a button you can hit to go to the DLC store, which it tne goes to and there you can just pick whatever. If you wanna use the ration seals for 1 of the 3 resource packs, just go to it, hit X (or Square for PS3) and ur done. I've not seen a single advertisement, idk what the hell you're talking about.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Yes, but why does there need to be a button? Why is it even needed?

Its a $60 retail game, not a free-to-play app.

[Malacite]

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I say again, why does it bother people that there's an in-game DLC button? If EA wants to milk stupid people for more money let them - it doesn't affect me in any meaningful way. The only time I hit Y at the Bench is to spend seals on an Epic Resource Pack (or just a regular one if I just want the crafting materials and not the Mark V weapon parts) and it takes like 2 seconds to process it; it's very quick. Unless it's adversely affecting the game, quit yer bitching.

[cidbahamut]

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ITT: defending poor game design.

[DakAttack]

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Yes, but why does there need to be a button? Why is it even needed?

Its a $60 retail game, not a free-to-play app.

EA thinks they can milk the best of both cows.

[Armando]

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I thanked you just for the imagery.

[Malacite]

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I'm not defending anything, just simply calling out undue nerd raging over what amounts to trivial shit, when there are far more glaring issues at hand with DS3.

Like the buggy co-op, or that f'ing Crab boss that can stun-lock you, or the plethora of cheap, game-breaking glitches that pretty much mandate you keep a backup save if you have any hopes of finishing Hardcore mode. Or all the poorly written, lengthy, unskippable dialogue scenes @__@ (the overall story was fine, just some segments were cringe-worthy and/or just plain stupid). Overall, I give the game a 7.5 as it's a good game, but DS2 was better.

[cidbahamut]

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You call it "trivial shit", I call it "the systemic degradation of the quality of products in the industry over time."

[Malacite]

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And the basis for that is?

No really, I'm curious, because I'm sick of all the raging over a stupid in-game menu that doesn't detract from anything unless you want it to, all the while blatantly ignoring the shit that's actually wrong with the game. It's like going to a restaurant, looking at the menu, and bitching about how you don't like a certain item on the menu even though you have no intention of ordering it anyway and therefor it doesn't really affect you.


Now, if you want to talk about the expansion of this sort of thing into say, the competitive scene (like people buying extra perks to get ahead) THAT is a legitimate gripe that I can totally get behind. I'm not a fan of EA's decision to include micro-transactions in all their games from here on out, but I can live with it so long as it doesn't break game balance.

[cidbahamut]

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And the basis for that is?

My keen powers of Observation and Pattern Recognition.

[DakAttack]

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And the basis for that is?

No really, I'm curious, because I'm sick of all the raging over a stupid in-game menu that doesn't detract from anything unless you want it to, all the while blatantly ignoring the shit that's actually wrong with the game. It's like going to a restaurant, looking at the menu, and bitching about how you don't like a certain item on the menu even though you have no intention of ordering it anyway and therefor it doesn't really affect you.

Now, if you want to talk about the expansion of this sort of thing into say, the competitive scene (like people buying extra perks to get ahead) THAT is a legitimate gripe that I can totally get behind. I'm not a fan of EA's decision to include micro-transactions in all their games from here on out, but I can live with it so long as it doesn't break game balance.

It's more like going to a restaurant, looking at the menu, and besides Hamburger all the other items say "Fuck you" over and over.