Nintendo Direct - Shin Megami Tenset X Fire Emblem

[Icemage]

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So partnerships with Platinum Games, Sega, Namco, Level 5, Capcom, Atlus, XSEED and more - along with worldwide game announcements IN ENGLISH and you can't see where the wind is blowing?

Wow. Just wow.

Have you seen the upcoming release slate for the Wii U lately? Yeah.

I'm sure Nintendo is trying harder now, but it's not like they were starting from such a great position in the first place.


Icemage

[Firewind]

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I would also like to point out the only Nintendo Exclusive releases in the EU in the coming months:

Devil Survivor Overclocked (A 2 year old game that is the remake of a 4 year old game)
Monster Hunter 3 (A 3 year old Wii game)

There are also the below non-exclusives.

Scrubblenauts Unlimited (Cheaper on Steam)
Resident Evil Revelations (1 year old 3DS game. Will no doubt be cheaper on Steam)

That really doesn't give me much of an incentive to dust off the 3DS or buy a Wii U this year. Compare to what Europe is getting on the Vita/PSN, iOS Store, PS3, 360/XBL and PC/Steam, it is really hard to see Nintendo really doing much this year other than derping around and hoping that the fanboys will carry their hardware sales like Sony did last gen.

The Wii U isn't getting:

Bioshock Infinite
Tomb Raider
Metal Gear Rising
Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires
Crysis 3
Persona 4 Golden
Sim City
Soul Sacrifice

All are confirmed releases for Q1 in Europe on other consoles. Nintendo really had better be looking towards the long term with what they are doing and also looking to regions other than Japan. Getting a little third party support from developers that have reputations for often refusing to release games outside of Japan and a single game announcement from a third party studio in English does not tell me much at this moment in time. I'm as excited for the SMTxFE game as anyone else but I would like to see more evidence of Nintendo actually trying in Europe before investing in a Wii U, especially with Sony, Microsoft and Valve all cooking up big things this year.

Valve are going to be the ones to watch. As anti-DRM, and by extension Anti-Steam, I only use it because it is a choice between being fucked with lube (Steam) or without (Origin) as I am, Steam is looking to be the biggest threat to the Big 3 and Apple this year, especially with the Steambox announcements. Also with all of the support Square Enix is throwing at Steam, I could even see them breaking into the Japanese market, especially if they can sell the Steambox over there.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Have you seen the upcoming release slate for the Wii U lately? Yeah.

I'm sure Nintendo is trying harder now, but it's not like they were starting from such a great position in the first place.


Icemage

Have you seen the release slate for PS Vita?

Yeah, it takes some time to get software off the ground for new hardware. It took three years for PS3 to have both the software and an acceptable price point. So I wouldn't be raking Wii U over the coals or cherry picking examples just yet. We've had three platform launches in the last two years amidst a generation of gamers that are waaaaaaaaaay more spoiled about content than ever.

You know how it was before this gen and especially how it was before PS2 - it might have been weeks or months before you had another game you wanted. Complaining about a dry spell on a new piece of hardware is just a childish act. PS3 suffered its first three year because of arrogance, it was only the first year it was lacking in software.

Bioshock Infinite - Also on Steam
Tomb Raider - Steam again, but honestly, its Tomb Raider - most people won't care anyway.
Metal Gear Rising - And we have Bayonetta 2, made by the same studio and headed up by the creator or Devil May Cry.
Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires - No on cares about this one in America and rightly so. Why Europeans gobble it up is beyond me.
Crysis 3 - So? Crysis is a graphic whore piece, not a game people really talk about months after release.
Persona 4 Golden - And I have Soul Hackers, DSO, SMT IV and SMT X Fire Emblem. Persona 4 is nice, but its honestly all Sony fans care about and that makes me sad.
Sim City - DRM City, just another IP EA is raping the soul out of.
Soul Sacrifice - Sony made, Sony exclusive Where else would it happen? this is like me telling you Fire Emblem isn't coming to Vita.

I know you keep wanting to argue "because Europe" for everything Nintendo and Atlus related, but just to remind you - America and Europe are inverse on those two studios. Plus ver here Sony is a distant third, especially here in the southeast. You also have Germany under your umbrella, which likes to be the problem child to European nations that Quebec likes to be for the Americas.

[Firewind]

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So you're dismissing a whole bunch of games on other systems because they are multiplatform and on Steam? Read my post once more, none of those are on Nintendo consoles and they are on Steam and other consoles which was the entire point of listing them. I know you like to ignore facts that make Nintendo look bad but you're just looking silly at the moment. Those games will also sell for a hell of a lot more copies than Devil Survivor Overclocked or Monster Hunter 3 will as well. Dismissing them out of hand because YOU aren't interested in them is nothing short of idiotic.

And actually...it is kind of important given the Europe has a larger population than the US or Japan and a larger potential market for games. Dismiss Europe all you want but the fact remains is that Nintendo aren't even bothering to compete with the likes of Valve, Apple, Sony and Microsoft here. That is an important thing as the market for video games is larger than the US or Japan. Sony are slowly adapting in Europe with the PSN offerings and free games on PS+. Yes, they could do more but it is a start and if I'm honest, Microsoft needs to be doing more to compete with Valve and Apple as well.

And the only problem with Germany would be the game rating systems and censorship laws with regards to blood being shown ingame (Australia is actually the worst for it since they censor sex and violence and have no 18+ rating equivalent, and is why games take forever to release there) but most German gamers just import from Austria (if it has been localised into German) or anywhere else (If it has only been localised into English) anyway.

Suddenly declaring which way the wind is blowing when we don't know what Valve, Sony, Microsoft and Apple are up to this year isn't a good idea. People in this thread are not being Anti-Nintendo, people are being realists. Also completely dismissing an entire gaming market larger than that in the US or Japan because of Sony and Germany? I think that's what you're trying to argue because that post really does not seem too coherent or well thought out. Could you please get back to me when you've properly read my previous post? Thanks.

[Icemage]

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Have you seen the release slate for PS Vita?

Sure, and you know my position on it, too. Vita's upcoming release slate is also anemic.

But you know what? It's still less anemic than the Wii U when you look in terms of localization for 3rd party software.

Just this past week XSEED announced that they'd be localizing Valhalla Knights 3 and Ys: Memories of Celceta for the Vita. As far as anyone can tell, that appears to be without any prompting from Sony. Muramasa: The Demon Blade (originally a Wii title) is also getting a Vita release, and a brand new localization. At any rate, the point is that no one (least of all me) is claiming that Sony's trying extra hard to get games localized on the Vita. It doesn't need to be said outright, because it's basically happening on its own.

Nintendo's comment about their localization is admirable, and I said above I'm sure they are indeed trying harder now than they were before. Unfortunately, we have visible proof of Nintendo's past arrogance - to use your own word - regarding localization. Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, Pandora's Tower ring any bells? Games that gamers had to plead with Nintendo to realize what ought to have been obvious: that localizing good titles into a market that was largely empty of releases might be a profitable venture.

As I posted previously, I'll believe it when I see the titles get localized. Until then, it's just talk.


Icemage

[Malacite]

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[Armando]

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Well that was mildly spoilerific.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I just saw Sumia and clicked away.

FYI - she and Chrom are just one of many possible pairings, though. She's just the most sympathetic and endearing option for her clumsiness.

ust this past week XSEED announced that they'd be localizing Valhalla Knights 3 and Ys: Memories of Celceta for the Vita. As far as anyone can tell, that appears to be without any prompting from Sony. Muramasa: The Demon Blade (originally a Wii title) is also getting a Vita release, and a brand new localization. At any rate, the point is that no one (least of all me) is claiming that Sony's trying extra hard to get games localized on the Vita. It doesn't need to be said outright, because it's basically happening on its own.

XSeed and Atlus are honestly special cases. They have devout niche fanbases they know how to speak to. If a game is on a platform, those fans will eventually get that platform just to play what they either create or localize. Demon's Souls was a boost for Atlus, The Last Story a boost for Xseed. Neither licensing could be argued to have fostered more loyalty to the platform holder, but I do have to say that XSeed remains consistent on most platforms while Atlus seems to put out only P Studio and From Software releases on non-Nintendo platforms now.

Persona has become too hot to keep exclusive to Playstation platforms much longer - Persona 4 Arena and Catherine were not exclusives, either. From Software deals through Namco now. Can't say Sony's been fostering a stronger relationship considering these things.

Ys is one of those games people will follow anywhere, however, "anywhere" also includes PC as of late, and often for less than the premium pricing Ys will see early on Vita. Take a wild guess where Raydeus will fall on this one.

I don't know what what to make of the choice of localizing Valhalla Knights, though. That whole IP is just a mess and the new one doesn't look any better. Oh well, of the games they announced or released so far this year, I guess they can't all be winners. I'll get Muramasa and Pandora's Tower.

[Armando]

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FYI, however, she and Chrom are just one of many possible pairings.

That wasn't the spoilery part. If it had been that, I wouldn't mind.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Well, good I stopped there then.

[Malacite]

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Hmm, I haven't actually played the game so I have no idea who they were, I just knew about the "breeding" system that's in the game now and found it amusing


sorry. From my understanding though, you can have any number of pairings with your army, which as I said before is something you rarely see outside of games like Star Ocean.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Today's Direct had some interesting announcements - nothing as mind-blowing as last month, but cool all the same.

Luigi's Mansion actually kicks off an ongoing celebration of Mario's timid and second-fiddle brother. Luigi's dreams will be the focus of the next Mario and Luigi game arriving this summer as "Dream Team" More or less its Mario doing Inception to Luigi's dreams, a place where Luigi can be mighter and more awesome than Mario. Additionally, they revealed New Super Mario Bros. U will be seeing a special DLC addition later in the year dubbed "Super Luigi U." This will be a retooling of every level in NSMBU, packed with new challenges featuring Luigi as the hero of this journey.



As expected, Mario Golf is also getting a new 3DS interation.
Animal Crossing: New Left is slated for a May release, I believe
Game Freak's HarmoKnight comes out next month on eShop.
The next Dillon's Rolling Western game has a squid sniper... THAT IS AWESOME.
Style Savvy got Animal Crossing-themed outfits as DLC today, and a new RL fashion line gets introduced later on alongside the dozens it already has.
Castlevania: Lords or Shadow 2: Mirror of Fate gets a demo on the 28th, releases March 5th
Naruto Shippuden SD got a demo today, sadly it launches against Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate and Luigi's Mansion next month.



And Donkey Kong Country Returns is getting a 3DS port. It actually was something that seemed like a better fit for 3DS given all the wild 3D effects it had, so its nice to see a pocket-sized port with more visual pop. It sold over 5 million copies on Wii, making it Retro Studio's most successful title to date. No word on who's handling the port, but I'm sure Retro isn't working on this. Still, even as a port this is a very welcome addition.

... now people can quit bitching about the "waggle" controls that I never had a problem with.

Also, those that buy a 3DS XL with Luigi's Mansion or Pokemon Mystery Dungeon next month get a free digital download of select Nintendo 3DS titles like Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7 and Style Savvy Trendsetters. Not bad.

All of this is just planned for release in spring and mid-summer, too, so we still don't know what Nintendo and third parties have up their sleeves for 3DS this fall. 3DS's year is already pretty packed.

Not really all that much announced for Wii U this time around, but that was to be expected given last month's showing. What they did announce for Wii U is that America will also be getting the Zombi U bundled Europe is getting. It's the premium bundle with a copy of Zombi U, an art book anda digital download voucher for Nintendo Land at $389. Again, not bad.



I haven't caught up on the other EU announcements, but I believe Fire Emblem Awakening is slated for April 18th, Code of Princess and Etrian Odyssey IV are also slated for this spring. So basically, two less games for Firewind to bitch about not having

[Firewind]

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Yep, confirming that we do indeed have a 19th April Release Date for Fire Emblem Awakening in Europe.

Etrian Odyssey IV and Code of Princess, we don't have a confirmed Release Date for them yet but EOIV is confirmed for some time in Spring, and Code of Princess is confirmed as a Nintendo eShop exclusive release by Agatsuma Entertainment though there is no release date set in stone yet.

And wow, this is a VERY awesome announcement and is making me happy that I was taking a "wait and see" approach to Nintendo this year:

Animal Crossing is also confirmed for 14th June in the EU, published by Nintendo of Europe.

Harmoknight is confirmed for Europe some time in March.

Castlevania releases on 8th March with Naruto coming out 10 days later.

An Inazmua Elven game is also confirmed to be being published in the EU by Nintendo of Europe but there is no release date yet (I'll have to check the video later).

Don't quote me on this but I think it might be NISA that is publishing EOIV in the EU like with Persona 4 Golden, though I'm not 100% sure on if they are actually picking up EOIV to publish. As long as it's not Ghostlight this time I think the EU's Atlus fans will be happy given the P4A mess. I do know that there is a good chunk of the fans over here that, like myself, are torn between boycotting it and not buying the game under any circumstances to show how stupid region locking the game is, and supporting Atlus in buying the game to show that yes it is worth releasing the games here but for god's sake, give it to a publisher like NISA, KOEI or anyone else that will release the game in a timely manner (Because competitive multiplayer games really do need a timely release in all zones to give everyone a fair chance). The current mess with the PSN version also being region locked (but still allowing EU players with US or Canadian accounts to buy it, only to be locked out of it) isn't helping, even that is entirely Sony's fault, Atlus don't have much control over that and it is pretty much all on Sony.

Either way, EOIV being confirmed for the EU is fantastic news since it makes it the first Etrian Odyssey game to be released in Europe. I think that alone is worth celebrating.

Injustice: Gods Among Us is also confirmed in the EU on 19th April making it the first fighting game to come out on the Wii U

We don't have release information on anything else as of yet but Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is almost certainly going to get an announcement soon (it is rumoured for 17th May) and Dillon's Rolling Western would make a decent eSHop release here given that the first game didn't do too badly on the eSHop if I remember correctly.

I'll have to go over the video that is up on the UK's Nintendo Direct website to see if there's any other information I can glean from there, as Nintendo of Europe's President Satoru Shibata gives a presentation in it specifically for EU release information, while Satoru Iwata just covers the Mario stuff by the look of it.

[Firewind]

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Yeah after watching the video, the new Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game is confirmed for 17th May in the EU.

The Digital Download offers are also going to apply in Europe. It's no Playstation Plus but it's a start and I'm curiously optimistic about it. If they offer games of the quality that Sony have on Playstation Plus, then it could be very awesome.

[Armando]

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... now people can quit bitching about the "waggle" controls that I never had a problem with.

They weren't the worst thing ever, but they were still totally unnecessary, and it was obnoxious that you didn't have a choice. This goes for New Super Mario Bros Wii as well - was it really that hard to let you use the Classic and/or GameCube controllers?