Mass Effect 3 co-op multiplayer trailer! Special Forces!

[Taskmage]

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New ME3 trailer featuring Ray's lost love the Mako:

Squee and so forth

[Raydeus]

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Mako-chan was lost at Alchera.

May it R.I.P. along with any interest I had in the series.



PS > The first part of the trailer was nice, but it rapidly devolved into everything I hate from the EAwood movies called Mass Effect 2&3. Just like it happened with the Matrix really. orz

[geogolem]

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I have been debating getting into the ME series. I wuld have to play 1 on the PC or skip it while I would play 2 and 3 on ps3

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Well, its like I heard someone else say - even The Walking Dead trailers showed all the zombie-shooting action and not the dramatic character-driven survival stories that are really the core of the show. That's because showing all the talky bits in a trailer is going to bore people, not interest them.

Does the trailer devolve from something dramatic and compelling to the alien robo-zombie apocalypse? Yes, but was that ever not what the Reaper threat ultimately was? Why dance around it? That shit sells. I'm more worried about them pandering the the lowest common denominator rather than focus solely on making a game for their core fans and gamers.

I really do take issue with the Story Mode. Do I not have to use it? Sure, I don't have to use it but my problem with it is it does not balance risk and reward in any way, shape or form and a game should always have that factored in. Rather than my Super Guide example, let's take a look at recent Kirby games. In Epic Yarn and Return to Dreamland it is impossible to die and be unable to complete a level - this is the standard difficulty, there are no other difficulties. That said, the game isn't without its potential to have failure and completing a level doesn't mean you saw everything.

When Kirby takes damage these days, he looses collectibles that affect his ranking at the end of a stage and finding particular items or passage ways is key to opening up new areas. So you still have risk and reward as a factor. Mass Effect 3's Story Mode does not subscribe to this. You are inflated to a god-like stat level, practically invincible and you can find all the same stuff players in the other modes can find. There is no risk, just reward.

Is this how you want to teach a newcomer to play your games?

People quibble over Pandora and Gems being a factor that give newbies an edge in Street Fight X Tekken but yet again using these elements of the game has risk and reward as a factor to newbies and vets alike. They are not the end-all/be all of the experience and from the videos I've seen SFIV vets might opt not to use them at all because there's plenty there in the game that allows them to go without.

Games should be made to welcome people into the world of gaming, ME3's Story Mode does nothing to foster that interest or show the casual player why playing game can feel so rewarding beyond just completing a story.

[Taskmage]

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Apparently what I posted earlier was not the full version of the trailer. The same criticisms are valid for the most part for this one, but it does play the tension and the drama a little better. Here it is:

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Fake trailer >.>

Shepard is a woman and Ashley is dead.

[jenova_9]

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Inclusion: What Jennifer Hepler’s Story is All About | The Mary Sue

oh mew! How can people be so harsh? >< It isn't like there's only one playstyle mode to play it, mew!

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Unwarranted nastiness toward Hepler aside, she has said rather openly state that she has no interest in playing video games yet when challenged did blatantly flaunt her position in the video game industry. Sorry, but as much as I want to feel sorry for her, she did kind of provoke further antagonism toward her when she did that. You do not respond to your haters when you have a position like that. Just frame the hate mail and move on. The people railing against her are crazy and terrible fans, they're like the whiny piss-pantsy guys on the Men Going Thier Own Way forum (which is to say the least a hysterical read because the forum is filled with misogynistic manchildren like these Bioware fans).

But she just leaves people like me wondering that if you have no interest in the interactive nature of video games why you are in a job that makes video games? Go write a novel, write for a TV show, help make movies but please get the hell out of making video games because you've now left me with the impression you don't care about something that people love.

What if she said this? "I want to live and work in Tokyo, Japan, but I can't be bothered to learn Japanese, talk to the people that live there or learn the customs and cultural norms. I just have too many other things to do. I can't make the time"

Video games have a language all their own and she's basically stated and continues to maintain that she does not want to learn, understand or appreciate the language. She just wants to do her job. That's how it comes off to people. This thing you all care about? Well, I don't much care for it. Would you say this kind of thing in a job interview? Do you think you'd get hired if you did? I know I wouldn't.

We have an entire generation of people that grew up playing video games that are now making video games. They speak the language of games, why would you want someone that didn't making games? Why does someone want to make an Uncharted movie, but takes out everything that makes it Uncharted? You're making Wes Paul Anderson look like it really cares about Resident Evil when you have a guy like that having no real interest in making a movie about your games. Its really just taking the name of a game for a cash-grab and making the movie you really wanted to make at the expense of the audience that cared about it.

So I just have to wonder why Hepler is working for a video game company. Again, I don't think the kinds of personal attacks she's getting are warranted at all, but she does not help her case flaunting her position in an industry medium she has openly said she can't really get engaged in. I do find it a bit obnoxious.

[Raydeus]

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She fits the part for the "EAwood Movies" project.

She deserves a promotion.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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The Suicide Mission

From the Mass Effect Wiki"

If Garrus Vakarian and Tali'Zorah vas Normandy survived, they will be available as squad members. If Jack[8], Jacob Taylor[9], Kasumi Goto[10], Legion[5], Mordin Solus[5][8], Miranda Lawson[9], Samara[11], Thane Krios[12], and Zaeed Massani[12] survived, they will appear in some capacity.

Not that I expected them all to be playable, but it is a tad goading that most of them look like they won't be available even if they lived through it.

I mean Jack, Kasumi, Mordin, Legion and Thane are unique enough to at least warrant inclusion, but it looks like they're just going to get the original cast back together and call it a day and save whatever other playables for paid DLC.

Its also said whether its Ashley or Kaiden that lives, they become Specters. Ashley just doesn't strike me as Specter material given her uppity attitude and that she's inherently racist.

[Taskmage]

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ish

The original council never would have let her in, but I could see a human-dominated council pushing her through. Not that it matters to me since both her and the original council are dead. You know who really should have become a Spectre though? Garrus. His activities between 1 and 2 prove he's got what it takes, and the Spectres seem like the only possible place for a Turian who has issues with authority to fit in.

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Zaeed, btw? Why even bother? Storytime with Zaeed was halfway amusing, but as a character who cares about him?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Zaeed, yeah, I can see them sidelining him.

Whether or not the council would let Ash in, however, would depend more on whether the original council survived or not. At least it should. But in my Mass Effect Kaiden lives, Wrex lives, Ashley dies, the Council is saved and i certainly killed Saren (which due to the nature of the final auto-save, it apparently doesn't matter how he dies, which is kind of lame). I'm just a Ruthless Earthborn Femship that's pretty terse but doesn't like suffering or death. I also let that Batarian dude in "Bring down the sky" leave so I could save the planet and the hostages.

Now that ME1 is officially done for this round, on to ME2. Used copy with a expired online pass just happened to work. No Kasumi on this version unless XBLA decides to have a sale or something. I do want the Shuriken for ME2, Kasumi and Shadow Broker factored in. Dunno about Arrival, it doesn't seem all that important.

[Taskmage]

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With the fate of all sentient life in the balance, I could never bring myself to spare even a single ship to save the Ascension. Even my wife's boy scout of a Shepard made that one renegade decision.

If you know what happens in Arrival, it's not really worth the purchase. It's not like you can affect the outcome. () I admit I enjoyed the survival challenge in it, but it's not too special.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I play my Shepard like Malcom Reynolds pretty much.

Well, as much as the game allows. Shepard just isn't that cool.

EDIT: ok, lookie, Cerberus pack gave me the Shuriken, now I don't have to suffer through Stolen Memories again. I like ya, Kasumi, but I don't like ya that much.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I'm going to post a video with a rather large spoiler here, but it takes a few minutes for the video to get there and for those that don't want to hear it, I can certainly paraphrase:

I disagree with his pretty much brainwashed rationale of the online pass, but he's right to criticize EA and Bioware on the dick move they're pulling with ME. What's being talked about here is that there's a DLC pack with a character available at launch and this content and this character are INCREDIBLY relevant and central to the Mass Effect universe and its lore.

If you don't buy the collectors edition at Gamestop or the Digital Collectors Edition of Origin, then you have to pay for Day One DLC - the very thing that the online pass was supposed to be incentive to buy new is now either in a $80 collector's edition or cough up $10 to buy it off PSN, XBL and Origin.

And yet, there's still an online pass for the multiplayer. Its worth pointing out that EA just made concessions with two releases - Syndicate and SSX - where an online pass is not required for the online multiplayer. Additionally, ME3 has also sorts of monetizing going on here, especially for PC gamers. If you buy an N7 themed Keyboard, laptop, speakers there's a little bit of DLC for each. It seems EA and Bioware can do everything but put content that should just be in the game anyway in the game.

My attitude toward EA and other businesses of late has actually changed. Instead of just boycotting or buying used, that attitude is now "Well, if you're just going to drive yourself off a cliff anyway, I may as well help make sure you get there."

I know Gamestop will drive itself off a cliff, I work there in a fictional sense of late. I don't get hours becausse how they do things is unsustainable, just like how EA does things.

That said, Bioware fans should be giving Bioware and EA all the shit they can over this and demand they make that content free, EA does not have a leg to stand on now that the reason for the online pass has become so flimsy. Sometimes incentive to buy new, sometimes not. Sometimes for mulitplayer, sometimes not. If they can't be consistent about what its for from release to release, then they have no business using them anymore.