Elder Scrolls SKYRIM

[Yygdrasil]

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Yeah, i bought it... Too many people telling fun encounters about it... Hopefully I'll have some to post soon!

Yyg, let me get this right. You got turned into a vampire and there was no way to turn back? So you had to go and redo everything you had already done all over again on a PC? I'm playing on PS3. Am i going to have the same problem? What do I need to do to avoid that?

Yeh. YM is right. I probably should have subtitled that or something. I was talking about Oblivion. In Oblivion, there was a glitch with the quest to remove Vampirism. The game would let you go through all the quests leading up to the final removal of the disease... but when it came time to trade the items that the NPC asks you for in the last leg... she doesn't accept the Bloodgrass. As such... you can't cure Vampirism in its final stages.

This glitch ONLY happens on the PS3 version... and was fixed in the new (Greatest hits?) version. Unfortunately, I have the old one... and don't want to spend $45.00 to get the new copy just to remove the effect from my character. Instead, I borrowed Oblivion for the PC from a friend of mine and then used some hacks to give myself the same quest progression, level, equipment and stats as I had on the PS3. I've never looked back.

I also added the downloadable areas/quests on the PC version (Something the PS3 didn't offer... only PC and 360) and enjoyed the extra stuff so much that I really have no intention of going back onto the PS3 again to play.

[Yellow Mage]

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Yeh. YM is right.

Buh? o_O;

Last thing I mentioned in this thread involved homophobic chicken . . .

Generally, I don't have much to say about the Elder Scrolls, though my dad's pre-order just came in the mail yesterday. He had even forgotten that he had pre-ordered it, so he was like "Sweet, one less thing I have to buy!"

I guess I can keep you updated on whatever interesting adventures of his he decides to share with me, if you're interested . . .

[Taskmage]

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YM, TM, IM, whatever, same thing.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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My Skyrim wife is a lesbian werewolf .

She cooks.
She cleans.
She runs a shop and hunts.
She is sometimes a beast that eats other humans.
She's also quite tolerant of the other woman living in my house, Lydia.

Is there anything Aela the Huntress doesn't have going for her?

[Yygdrasil]

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She doesn't have a decent husband.

[Mezlo]

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OK, so I played some of the game at lunch, and being this is the first elder scrolls game I've played, it's taking some getting used to. I picked the elf character that is best with magic, and I've been using spark in my left hand and a mace in the right. I have all the weaps so far: (i'm still level one) two handed battle axe, axe, sword, long bow, shield, etc... But i keep running into theives, or random adventurers that just over power me. Is there a setup that works best for the early stages? Any battle tricks of the trade? I'm on my way to ge a dragon stone for the mage of the Jarl, so i am just getting started... any advice would be welcomed!

[Icemage]

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OK, so I played some of the game at lunch, and being this is the first elder scrolls game I've played, it's taking some getting used to. I picked the elf character that is best with magic, and I've been using spark in my left hand and a mace in the right. I have all the weaps so far: (i'm still level one) two handed battle axe, axe, sword, long bow, shield, etc... But i keep running into theives, or random adventurers that just over power me. Is there a setup that works best for the early stages? Any battle tricks of the trade? I'm on my way to ge a dragon stone for the mage of the Jarl, so i am just getting started... any advice would be welcomed!

Magic + 1 handed weapon is probably the weakest combination in the game unless the magic you've chosen to use is either Restoration (healing/wards) or Conjuration (summon stuff to distract opponents).

Shield + 1H weapon is really strong in a 1 on 1 situation with enemies. Not as good against multiples.

2 x 1H weapon (dual wield) is relatively weak until you power it up with Perks.

2H weapons are amazing and do wtf amounts of damage on a successful hit, but have a long windup time.

I've been using 2xDestruction magic. Uses up tons of Magicka, but a double-cast destruction spell can stagger most opponents (even dragons!) once you get the perk for it.

Stealth + Dagger is another valid way to play, and it's very powerful as long as you don't mess up and get spotted.


Icemage

[Raydeus]

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OK, so I played some of the game at lunch, and being this is the first elder scrolls game I've played, it's taking some getting used to. I picked the elf character that is best with magic, and I've been using spark in my left hand and a mace in the right. I have all the weaps so far: (i'm still level one) two handed battle axe, axe, sword, long bow, shield, etc... But i keep running into theives, or random adventurers that just over power me. Is there a setup that works best for the early stages? Any battle tricks of the trade? I'm on my way to ge a dragon stone for the mage of the Jarl, so i am just getting started... any advice would be welcomed!

It really depends on your playstyle, there are a hundred ways to kill a foe (or foes.)

Now, considering you are probably having troubles at close quarters it would probably be best to use a shield in your off-hand and alternate magic damage first and then melee damage while you get your magicka back. Blocking attacks and then attacking your stunned enemy.

Shield bash (block, then hit attack while your shield is up) is also a very good thing to use to get some breathing room if the enemy is too close. And you are probably better off wearing heavy armor and going battle mage at first, while you skill up your magicks (you can use mage gear that enhances magicka regen once you have better defensive spells.)

Also, don't forget you have restoration spells which are pretty good for those times when you are in a pinch, you can just run away and heal fast before getting back into the fray.

Then there's alteration magic, which gives some pretty awesome defensive spells, some of which give you quite a bonus to armor/defense later on and fast superior compared to even the best armor if you know hoe to use them. Think stoneskin and phalanx kind of spells.

Also make use of Conjuration spells, like Raise Zombie. If you are fighting several enemies you can raise the first enemy you defeat to fight along with you, or you can summon an Atronach (my personal favorite) once you get the spells.

All of these spells are available early on, so all you need to do is favorite them for faster swaping.


Aaaand I could go on but it's really trial and error and personal preference. You could just stealth snipe people from afar and finish them with magic if you wanted to,etc. etc. etc.

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PS > Do not, under any circumstances stay still. If you find yourself cornered it's usually better to sprint through your enemies than remaining a sitting duck.

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PPS > Once you get more comfortable with the fighting system you can give one of my favorite tactics a try.

Set up a trap with a few Fire runes, then lure your enemies with flames. Once they are blown into Oblivion you can finish them off with dual casting Flames and Rune spam on the floor if needed, just make sure you are targeting a surface, you wont take damage from your own rune explosion.

You might need some magicka potions for the second part, but taking out 5+ enemies at the same time is very much worth it. XD

[Nandito]

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PS > Do not, under any circumstances stay still. If you find yourself cornered it's usually better to sprint through your enemies than remaining a sitting duck.

This. In regards to melee combat without a shield (or even with, never used one) it's all about spacing. Make the enemy miss their swing by dancing around him. Trick him into swinging by going up close and backing up or side-stepping just as fast. Of course, it's a little harder for enemies with a wide range (Two-handlers). You'll just have to get the timing on your own.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Ideally one should also pack a bow as there are no real consequences for doing so. Ammo is no longer counted as weight and every other enemy seems to pack some arrows on. Sneak attacks do extra damage with ranged and other weapons and if you choose to upgrade stealth perks you can unlock some rather fearsome DD abilities.

Magic does get stronger the more you use it , but dual weilding it with a weapon is really only good if you know the enemy is weaker than you. If they're stronger, not so much.

[Takelli]

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Magic does get stronger the more you use it , but dual weilding it with a weapon is really only good if you know the enemy is weaker than you. If they're stronger, not so much.

Wouldn't it always be strong if the enemy is weaker than you? lol

[Icemage]

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Wouldn't it always be strong if the enemy is weaker than you? lol

The thing is, with Destruction magic in particular, it serves the same purpose as your weapon: dealing damage. You could maybe spend time casting things like Frostbite to reduce enemy Stamina (a worthwhile goal to keep them from spamming power attacks on you), but I'm not so sure that it's worth giving up the defense of a shield.

Alteration/Conjuration/Illusion/Restoration all have their uses in the off hand, but only Restoration can really be used full-time with a weapon to any significant effect (for Healing spells and/or casting Wards if you're charging a spellcaster).


Icemage

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Wouldn't it always be strong if the enemy is weaker than you? lol

Actually, no. I misphrased that.

Your level ups have nothing to do with magic, your skill-ups do. The power of your destruction magic is deterimined by skill level, perks and gear - nothing more. You can be level 20 and if you've put no time into a particular form or magic its still going to be ineffective.

Icemage said dual wielding magic and a weapon is not effective and he's right, but only in the sense that you're serving two masters and not making much progress with either.

I don't know how its exactly calculated for magic, but the damage rating on various weapons gets stronger as you get more skilled with that particular weapon. You'll actually see this change over time with weapons as you look at the stats - the damage rating I have for any bow I pick up right now - even the very first one I picked up - would be greater than yours is presently and that's just because I spend a lot of time with a bow.

Put simply: Its not because I'm level 20, but because of what I did on the way to 20.

And this was the case for other TES games, its just Skyrim has streamlined the system in all the right ways. Used to be you had an actual strength stat to spend point on to increase damage and how much you could carry. Damage bonuses are now calculated by perks, gear and skill levels. You can increase how much you carry by leveling up your Stamina, which is much more sensible than the old way.

And leveling in Morrowind and Oblivion was slooooooooow.

I'll admit I don't care for the fact that enchantments got scaled back again, but then, it can be argued Morrowind was just a little too ambitious with them and so was Oblivion, even though it was a bit more restrained.

Eliminating some spells and enchantments or at least reassigning them to Shouts and Perks was for the better, too, as even in Oblivion enchanted gear could get to WTFPWN levels of broken.

[Rama]

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LIKE A BOSS




In other news, ice-based creatures tear the shit out of me. I was feeling all badass until I went to a snowy mountain and was greeted by a frost dragon. It all went downhill from there!

[Mezlo]

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Thanks alot guys that helped alot. The reason I was duel-wielding destruction magic and a mace was to level both up. It had been working well, I'd hit them with destruction magic from afar and then club them over the head with the mace when they get close. When i was faced with 3 thieves though, this strategy went out the window... I think, being level 1, I'm at the infantcy stage of my character, and 1 on 1 fights are ok, 3 on 1 fights are alot harder until i can get some skills leveled up. So i take it from all the replies that leveling both destructive magic and a 1 handed weapon is not the best approach to leveling? BBQ made a good point that both are the same type of leveling, being your leveling 2 things that do damage to an enemy. I can't wait to get home and try it out...