Mega Man Legends 3 Prototype coming to 3DS' eShop

[Yellow Mage]

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Either way, I've given up all hope. I'm sure this is all we're gonna get.

I was half-expecting "But the miracle never happen."

Which would have actually been more relevant.

[Malacite]

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Capcom = abusive boyfriend.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Malacite = Battered housewife that will run back to him.

Sorry, you set yourself up for that one.

Kidding aside, I have proposed an idea in my blog. Its too grand for me to handle on my own, but I'd participate in it.

Basically, it boils down to trolling Capcom by sending them cans of beans with Energy Tank labels covering the real label. So many they'd have to donate them to a charity. Fans attaching notes, fan art and such to these cans. Perhaps a website could accept donations, do the labeling, collect the letters and ship them to Capcom's doorsteps in each territory.

Because, see, most people would respond to letters, but Capcom's shareholders are jerks, so I'd rather give them something a bit more weighty and harder to count than Facebook Likes and internet petition counts. Because those just provide the numbers and if it doesn't amount to a satisfactory number, they'll still say no.

So give them something a little harder to brush off, preferably in a few waves.

Its mischievous enough to be trolling like before, but symbolic of fan appreciation/demand, too.

[Malacite]

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That's actually pretty damn funny

[Malacite]

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Capcom talks Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 leaks and new features | Joystiq


So now they're blaming the initial, shitty version of MvC3 on the Earthquake & the fans?


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[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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You mean that earthquake/tsunami/nuclear meltdown combo that also included mandatory rolling blackouts and the need for evacuating areas and all that, you know, on top of the concerns over radition, drinking water and food?

That "earthquake?"

I dunno, if all that happened locally to me, I think I'd be highly affected by it and it just might disrupt work and life as usual.

Get a heart, Mal. Or just pull your head out of your ass.

The characters that are coming are mostly due to who fits and what licenses they could get. Strider wouldn't have happened at all were it not for licensing. Chumps like you THINK he's a Capcom character, but he's a manga character that happens to have a couple of games made by Capcom that were popular stateside.

I don't even know what having Mega Man in this game fucking means to people.

Who you play in a fighting game has nothing to do with who they are, their backstory or how much you like/relate to them - it all boils down to how they play and how they mesh with your style of play. That means if Poison and Kuma end up working for me in Street Fighter X Tekken, my team is a bear-trap.

[Malacite]

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Get a heart, Mal. Or just pull your head out of your ass.

Yes, the earthquake that happened after the game came out.

So fuck you for insinuating that I don't care about the victims. Capcom cites a massive tragedy that occurred a month after they put the game out as an excuse, and I'M the asshole?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Mal, my point is you don't know how this affected their plans for DLC, updates and the games and other games as a whole. Even a few weeks or a month of downtime is bound to have large effects on particular developers.

And really, I don't get the butthurt over it becoming an expansion over DLC as it does a few things:

- The changes come all at once, taking tiers and scrambling them again rather than changing gradually
- No $5 character DLC bullshit, which is what more DLC characters would have amounted to
- People who don't have internet connections get all the upgrades, too

At the end of the day, with arcades mostly out of the picture the best way to update fighters is through expansions with feedback from the internet and EVO crowd. I would honestly be more pissed off if Capcom stuck to their DLC model, which is apparently dictated by the boardroom more than it is Ono, who is a guy that just likes making fighting games and has kept the genre alive almost entirely by himself with his teams.

Plus its not like Capcom never does this. There's never been one version of Street Fighter II and III, so people shouldn't act surprised there's multiple versions of SFIV or UMVC3. We've had two decades of them doing this now, so do try to keep up.

[Armando]

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Plus its not like Capcom never does this. There's never been one version of Street Fighter II and III, so people shouldn't act surprised there's multiple versions of SFIV or UMVC3. We've had two decades of them doing this now, so do try to keep up.

Except there was no Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom, or Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 2, or Ultimate Tatsunoko VS Capcom. Or Ultimate Anything VS Anything.

Everyone could see the SFIV revisions coming a mile away. Milking a VS game is new and there was little reason to believe they were going to.

[Icemage]

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Plus its not like Capcom never does this. There's never been one version of Street Fighter II and III, so people shouldn't act surprised there's multiple versions of SFIV or UMVC3. We've had two decades of them doing this now, so do try to keep up.

I think it was a rude awakening on the point of UMvC3 since MvC and MvC2 never got this sort of treatment (though that's just as likely due to licensing agreements w/ Marvel than anything else).

We're sort of used to it with Street Fighter, but there was at least grounds for some expectation that MvC3 would stay more "stable" than the Street Fighter franchise.

Personally, I think it's OK to release updates. However, I question the timing. MvC3 hasn't been out long enough to really solidify gameplay tiers, and it certainly hasn't been long enough for those of us who paid $60 for the original game to not feel a bit used. Though honestly, if we're going to talk about jerkwads, this is nothing compared to the wallet-rape from EA that owners of NBA Jam are going to go through when NBA Jam: On Fire comes out for $15 with more content than the original release.


Icemage

[Kailea]

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Well Capcom has pissed me off as well finaly..... trust me the MegaMan stuff about did it alone..... but then they pull the crap with Ultimate Marval VS Capcom 3.......WTF -.-

They release the game, do a crappy job of supporting it, give us 2 charaters for download, then say "oh sorry but that is it"

I ditched the game after about 2 months of having it, then I see this crap...... MARVEL® VS. CAPCOM® 3: | The Official Site for ULTIMATE MARVEL VS. CAPCOM 3

WTF 12 new characters...... *punches a tree*

[Malacite]

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Yup, and no Mega Man. No instead we get a vanilla Ghouls & Ghosts monster.

And again, according to that article, Capcom blames the earthquake (that happened AFTER the game came out) and the fans, apparently, for the shitty initial version we got.

Real cute Capcom, you god damn assholes. Honestly between Capcom doing stupid shit like this and Activision spewing out shameless rehashes of the same game over & over (along with DLC all priced at around 25% of the initial game's value EACH), plus the bone-headed shit EA does here & there it's all just deplorable.

Watching the Halo panel from Comicon at least gave me a little hope for the industry.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I think it was a rude awakening on the point of UMvC3 since MvC and MvC2 never got this sort of treatment (though that's just as likely due to licensing agreements w/ Marvel than anything else).

We're sort of used to it with Street Fighter, but there was at least grounds for some expectation that MvC3 would stay more "stable" than the Street Fighter franchise.

Personally, I think it's OK to release updates. However, I question the timing. MvC3 hasn't been out long enough to really solidify gameplay tiers, and it certainly hasn't been long enough for those of us who paid $60 for the original game to not feel a bit used. Though honestly, if we're going to talk about jerkwads, this is nothing compared to the wallet-rape from EA that owners of NBA Jam are going to go through when NBA Jam: On Fire comes out for $15 with more content than the original release.


Icemage

EA's reasoning will be that its a new year, new roster, etc. We're talking about the same company that sold the whole of DA:O for $150 in DLC, Awakenings and then released a roll-up. If anything, that is cruelty to your fans. And they're doing it again with DA2, which is why I'll wait for the roll-up in the used bin again.

Still, I stand by my point. I would argue MVC2 was the update to MVC, just like MVC was the update to Street Fighter Vs. X-Men. They didn't exactly exist many years apart from each other and rosters only varied just slightly to include more Capcom and fewer Street Fighter characters. Each were released while I was in college so that's three games in the span of four years. Plus arcades were still a big enough thing at the time those games were around.

This time Capcom just wasn't as subtle - Ultimate MVC3. If Capcom had released it next March, would people be any less angry over it? EA had DA:O UE out the same year, too. Would a March release have changed that, either? People still got mad.

12 more characters, more features and probably all the DLC challenge modes. This is why I got mine used when I got my PS3 - too much DLC chicanery for my liking. Jill and Shuma should have just been included and if the code says anything, they were in the game minus voice tracks - that's your download for those characters. Voices.

This one is coming out at $40 with more, I can't exactly complain about that.

[Armando]

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Still, I stand by my point. I would argue MVC2 was the update to MVC, just like MVC was the update to Street Fighter Vs. X-Men. They didn't exactly exist many years apart from each other and rosters only varied just slightly to include more Capcom and fewer Street Fighter characters. Each were released while I was in college so that's three games in the span of four years. Plus arcades were still a big enough thing at the time those games were around.

You can't call MvC2 an expansion of MvC1 when it's got different game mechanics, different interface, different stages, and different music. While they recycled the characters that already existed, everything else was new and so it IS a different game in its own right. Same thing comparing MvC1 to X-Men vs Street Fighter. It's got nothing to do with subtlety and everything to do with modifying an existing game instead of making a proper sequel.

I will concede that 12 characters is quite a bit to add to the game, but they really dropped the ball by picking characters nobody gives a fuck about. Sure, maybe licensing had something to do with some of them the choices but I don't see how they failed to include Mega Man X when there was a very obvious demand for him, and I don't see how there could be licensing problems in bringing back Cyclops and Gambit. Hell, they managed to get Tatsunoko VS Capcom out stateside. How did they fail so miserably here?

EDIT: There probably would've been a lot less backlash if the people that already owned MvC3 could get a $20 rebate or something, too. With how close together both games are, it's a real punch to the balls that someone that didn't buy MvC3 can get UMvC3 for $40 while the early adopters end up paying $100+ between both games.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I think the fact they also came out with such a small timeframe takes away from your point. They recycled assets pretty hardcore for those games. MVC had "strikers" and Arthur was among them, MVC2 just replaced the KOF concept of strikers with actual teammates.

And really, people would be raging even harder if a "proper" sequel happened within a year because it totally would be using the same assets, characters and engines. "Ultimate" and "4" wouldn't have much of a difference.