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  • #46
    Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    Indifferent.
    You don't think they're awesome because everybody else here thinks they're awesome?

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    • #47
      Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

      I don't care one way or the other, that's why I used the term indifferent...
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      • #48
        Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

        Then why do you think FNV is buggy is because you know people who think FNV is buggy?

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        • #49
          Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

          I will admit I heard of some buggy things in FNV, but from what I have played myself so far, I ran into nothing.
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          • #50
            Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

            Originally posted by Kailea View Post
            I will admit I heard of some buggy things in FNV, but from what I have played myself so far, I ran into nothing.
            Same here and ditto with Dragon Age 2
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            • #51
              Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

              Originally posted by Firewind View Post
              Same here and ditto with Dragon Age 2
              DA2 doesn't have any bugs I'm aware of, not like Awakening's DLC did. What it does have is chronic cut-and-pasted areas and other lazy designs that were spun as "removing the barrier of entry" when its just EA wanting Bioware to make RPGs that pander to the xbros.

              If you can't see the problems in FNV, gee, you think that might be because they've had several months to address them now? Not even reviewers were letting the review code they got slide, there's a reason it scored lower than Fallout 3 across the board.

              Anyway, Nintendo has confirmed they will have a new, playable console to show off at E3

              Nintendo confirms new console in quarterly report- Destructoid

              Miyamoto also confirmed the project's existence last week, but said a lot of rumors surrounding it were pure bunk. I'm going to assume a traditional controller with a 6 inches HD screen in it is one of them. the very concept seems a bit ridiculous and I don't see Nintendo just casting Wiimotes aside entirely.

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              • #52
                Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                So there really will be a new system? interesting, I am very intrigued about what it might contain, because knowing Nintendo, there is going to be something crazy about it.
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                • #53
                  Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                  Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                  DA2 doesn't have any bugs I'm aware of, not like Awakening's DLC did. What it does have is chronic cut-and-pasted areas and other lazy designs that were spun as "removing the barrier of entry" when its just EA wanting Bioware to make RPGs that pander to the xbros.

                  If you can't see the problems in FNV, gee, you think that might be because they've had several months to address them now? Not even reviewers were letting the review code they got slide, there's a reason it scored lower than Fallout 3 across the board.
                  I think the newness of FO3 compared to FNV is why there's a difference in score. I enjoyed FO3, but I didn't keep up with it in its entirety. FNV explores a lot of the Fallout universe and is connected to FO1 and FO2 in multiple ways.

                  DA2 was a huge disappointment. Clearly, EA got to BioWare and turned them into another video game factory, churning out sequels once a year. I can't say I'm opposed to reused assets, since every game does it, but the level of polish was low for what they did have and the end of the game was clearly rushed. A lot of the early and mid-game content felt forced, as well.

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                  • #54
                    Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                    Originally posted by Kailea View Post
                    So there really will be a new system? interesting, I am very intrigued about what it might contain, because knowing Nintendo, there is going to be something crazy about it.
                    Probably, but their "crazy" ideas usually end up working out when it comes to new hardware. Now that Nintendo has MS and Sony on the motion bandwagon and them obsessing with catching up there, they're probably ready to pull some other kind of shake-up. I expect 3DTV to be a factor, as they have said that they're interested in building a console with 3D in mind, just as they built the 3DS that way.

                    I kinda think Kinect has really gotten 360 off-track these last few months, though its starting to smooth back out. Meanwhile I think Sony isn't agressive enough in encouraging developers to implement Move into their games.

                    All that said, I am sort of disappointed Nintendo's talking up a new console so soon after releasing new handheld hardware, but the 3DS does show a shift in their online philosophy and I do prefer the model they have in place for the 3DS over the Wii, so here's here's it continues to evolve with the next system.

                    Originally posted by DakAttack
                    DA2 was a huge disappointment. Clearly, EA got to BioWare and turned them into another video game factory, churning out sequels once a year. I can't say I'm opposed to reused assets, since every game does it, but the level of polish was low for what they did have and the end of the game was clearly rushed. A lot of the early and mid-game content felt forced, as well.
                    I'm not exactly opposed to reused assets myself, I just don't like it when its painfully obvious and done in a lazy fashion.. I mean, you got to Ifrit's Cauldron and then Mount Z in FFXI and you'll see recycled assets, but they're at least somewhat reskinned and remodeled. In that case you only pick up on that similarity due to constantly revisiting these areas.

                    When you do it in one single-player campaign, though, it starts to stick out a bit more.

                    Mass Effect has always managed to dodge this because there is a little Krubrick and othe 70s/80s sci-fi design philosophy in its environments. You can see 2001, Star Trek, Star Wars and Babylon 5 all in there. They're kinda generic because they honestly can be and that makes repetition a little more difficult to pick up on. Its not based on the present or what we know, so they have a lot more wiggle room than fantasy does, since that can be based on real things and just taken to a different extreme.
                    Last edited by Omgwtfbbqkitten; 04-25-2011, 06:43 AM.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                      From what I have seen of "leaked" (yeah, who knows how credible) images, the new controller looks like a GC controller with an Ipod touch on top of it.

                      Nintendo Wii 2 ‘Screen Stream’ controllers leak | BGR
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                      • #56
                        Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                        Honestly I don't see why cut and paste areas are a problem right now considering they have been with us since the beginning of gaming. There are games that are far, far, far worse for it than DA2 but why is DA2 the only problem?
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                        • #57
                          Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                          Originally posted by Firewind View Post
                          Honestly I don't see why cut and paste areas are a problem right now considering they have been with us since the beginning of gaming. There are games that are far, far, far worse for it than DA2 but why is DA2 the only problem?
                          They pushed it to the extreme. With as much time the player spends inside the maps, they could have made them a bit more interesting.

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                          • #58
                            Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                            Originally posted by Firewind View Post
                            Honestly I don't see why cut and paste areas are a problem right now considering they have been with us since the beginning of gaming. There are games that are far, far, far worse for it than DA2 but why is DA2 the only problem?
                            Its a problem whenever it becomes too obvious in a 3D game as it breaks immersion. We have the technology to be far, far past this now and there's really no excuse for it aside from "budget" and "deadline."

                            Pretty much every NPC, interior and zone in the Zelda series has looked different since Zelda OOT. So, what's anyone else's excuse, aside from time and budget?

                            Maybe developers should start putting more time into their games. Nothing seems to stop Valve from taking their time, or SE, Konami and many others. EA's approach just seems really oppressive to the likes of Bioware. They've always been guilty of a bit of copypasta, but DA2 seemed to ramp it up a bit.

                            Originally posted by Gobo
                            From what I have seen of "leaked" (yeah, who knows how credible) images, the new controller looks like a GC controller with an Ipod touch on top of it.
                            Yeeeeahhhh. Fake.

                            First off, "stream?" Really? There is a Stream comin' from mah Wii! Look at this "leak." I just don't think Nintendo would continue down the road of phallic and piss references. If it somehow involved Steam, then I might buy into the "Steam" naming but that's about as far as I'd go.

                            Also, when was the last time Nintendo emblazoned their old logo onto document headers or even products they release. They have it down on the corner of the box, maybe on the back of a system, but never embossed on the outside of a system. Looks like they made a mock of of a 360 and slapped "Nintendo" on it.

                            Also, is a 1080p image really still 1080p when you cram it down on a 6 inch screen? I kind of doubt it. Additioanlly, why would Nintendo go back to the GBA connectivity concept for a new controller? Wiimotes are damn expensive as it is and Nintendo seems to like to want people to get together around one TV rather than give each person their own screen. what's the TV for if we all have our own screen to look at?

                            Seems a bit farfetched even for Nintendo, particularly given what a tremendous failure the GBA connectivity concept and, by extention, Sony's Ad Hoc Party app for PSP and PS3, have proven to be.

                            Hey, I wanted the idea to work for games like Zelda Four Swords Adventures and Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, but it honestly did not. Put that on the 3DS with online and local play and now you're talking.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                              Also, is a 1080p image really still 1080p when you cram it down on a 6 inch screen? I kind of doubt it
                              It is if the 6 inch screen has 1920x1080 pixels. Such a screen would be expensive though (if they even make them at that size+resolution.) Of course I don't see why you'd want to cram the whole screen into a controller. Even 1/4 of it would be huge by handheld screen standards if the resolution is 1080p. If the point is to have an auxiliary screen for each player you could go with something much smaller, like a PSP screen.

                              Still, I like my controllers affordable and droppable.
                              Last edited by Armando; 04-25-2011, 10:12 AM.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

                                Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                                Miyamoto also confirmed the project's existence last week, but said a lot of rumors surrounding it were pure bunk. I'm going to assume a traditional controller with a 6 inches HD screen in it is one of them. the very concept seems a bit ridiculous and I don't see Nintendo just casting Wiimotes aside entirely.

                                Even if it were true, that would mean like $200 just for the controller.

                                Some people really are stupid. It's very likely the system will be HD this time around, but given Nintendo's recent history I would bet that in terms of graphic power, it will be maybe on par with PS3 or a little better. I base this on the fact that Nintendo absolutely does not want to let go of the casual demographic, which is far far larger than us traditional gamers and keeping the price point of their console low is key to this.

                                You can be sure that the PS4 & new xbox will both continue along their paths too, which means they'll both likely be much more expensive etc etc, but this thread is about Nintendo.

                                I for one, really want to see a full on HD Zelda game where Link finally can speak.

                                EDIT: Also, controllers with screens? SEGA Dreamcast says hi.
                                Last edited by Malacite; 04-25-2011, 11:04 AM.
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