Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

I see what's going on, here. You're a Nintendo fanboy. You're apathetic towards anything they don't do well, as if it's not good enough to matter. How sad.

If I was a Nintendo fanboy, I'd be making a 180 on such apathetic feelings and wanking over HD like you do but again, I just don't care.

Is there reason I should be dazzled at this years-old tech? Its a TV.

TV shows did not get better.
Movies did not get better.
Games actually got a whole lot smaller.

Yay?

I mean, its totally fucking awesome that GTA San Andreas beasts GTA IV in size and scope and that Dragon Age II has so much cut-and-paste that even the Covenant from Halo would get lost in its city due to the ridiculous amount of sameness the place has.

[DakAttack]

Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

Cool story, brotendo.

[Kailea]

Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

really, resorting to the fanboy namecalling, it is sad, what he says is pretty much true. Hell building my arcade cab, I chose a 32" CRT TV over an new LCD TV, you know why? It looks better.

HD is nice, but all it has done is make games/movies look better, but not better overall.

[Malacite]

Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

HD is nice, but all it has done is make games/movies look better, but not better overall.

And this is somehow the fault of new tech? Say, here's an interesting theory: Blame the developers.

[Armando]

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And this is somehow the fault of new tech? Say, here's an interesting theory: Blame the developers.

And the customers. The developers keep doing it because there's still people willing to pay for more expensive games with less content.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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And this is somehow the fault of new tech? Say, here's an interesting theory: Blame the developers.

No offense, Mal, But I can't take you seriously on this one.

You bitch and moan and complain about what developers do and then you shell out the cash anyway or give the publisher some numbers to toy with even by renting and going online to play the games. You will complain about Starcraft 2 being sliced up into so many expansions from the start, but you'll buy them anyway. You'll call Bobby Kotick Satan and then go buy the next CoD anyway and the next Bungie game on day one.

You are the very reason why the industry is turning into a place where both the developer and the publisher feel they can take advantage of the consumer by reducing the amount of content they put in a game and how you access that content.

The majority of the reason I stay over on the DS, PSP and Wii side of things is in protest of that bullshit. If someone decides to do DLC right, i'll gladly pay up. That amounts to Rockstar, Gearbox, Sega Overworks, Atlus and how the 3DS is going to be doing it. Capcom seems to be learning too, so perhaps them, I'm still on the fence about how they're doing MVC3, but they seem to be treating the balancing and rebalancing as seriously as an arcade version.

really, resorting to the fanboy namecalling, it is sad,

Its not a huge deal, it just proves he's the one on the fringe.

If I'm not impressed by HD, I'm a Nintendo fanboy.

If I think MS has a better online community than Sony, I'm an Xbox fanboy.

If I defend Sony's right to protect software and prevent piracy, I'm a Sony fanboy. (Well, I've not heard it here, but I get it elsewhere, even though I'm highly critical of Sony most of the time).

If I make some offhanded joke about a girl buying a 360, Murphie pretends to be offended for women and calls me a misogynast and also homophobe for some reason related to his insecurities about how the world sees him most likely and his need to project them on others.

If I defend doing my job, I'm a tool, even though I pretty much hate how things hare handed down from corporate at Gamestop.

Some people accept the bluntness, others clearly do not.

So when I come here lately, I just expect this kind of bullshit.

Hell building my arcade cab, I chose a 32" CRT TV over an new LCD TV, you know why? It looks better.

Yeah, its funny to me how some people think you can just "patch" the emulation and make the resolution better. Older games were not made for the higher resolution TVs and that's partly why its a shame they're no longer producing SDTVs. SNES games were not meant to be played at 480p and it shows, but N64 games seem to get along a tad better. Dunno if I want to see a PSX game running on NGP, the results might be a lot worse that what 3DS has going with the slightly washed-out look to DS games. Fortunately "slightly washed out" is as bad as it gets. While the resolution is higher, everything is still so small it looks just about right.

[Aeni]

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Good graphics doesn't mean great game. It's why Wii has sold more than either Xbox 360 and PS3.

As of March 2011:

Wii: 71 million units worldwide
PS3: 50 million units worldwide
Xbox 360: 50 million units worldwide

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

Good graphics doesn't mean great game. It's why Wii has sold more than either Xbox 360 and PS3.

As of March 2011:

Wii: 71 million units worldwide
PS3: 50 million units worldwide
Xbox 360: 50 million units worldwide

And this has pretty much been the case every generation in every hardware cycle. Least powerful console always wins out with the consumer. That's the way it is and how it will always be.

[Malacite]

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You bitch and moan and complain about what developers do and then you shell out the cash anyway or give the publisher some numbers to toy with even by renting and going online to play the games. You will complain about Starcraft 2 being sliced up into so many expansions from the start, but you'll buy them anyway. You'll call Bobby Kotick Satan and then go buy the next CoD anyway and the next Bungie game on day one.

- They lowered the price of HotS and DotV from $60 to 40 after last Blizzcon, realizing that they were going to piss off a lot of people if they didn't. That was my only real gripe with SC2, and it's been fixed and quite frankly, having recently beaten Brutal Campaign SC2 was worth every damn penny.
- The only CoD I ever bought was Black Ops, which I regretted soon after. My brother bought MW2, I just played it because it was kinda fun at the time.
- What does that comment about Bungie have to do with anything? Of course I fucking got Reach on Day 1, it's their last game and I thoroughly enjoyed the MP beta and still like the game despite it's faults. I just loathe what they did to the campaign & the canon. My gripes about the current state of the MP aren't really relevant atm.
- How in the holy hell does renting affect anything? Rental money goes right to the store I rented a game from, not the developers/publishers, and since it's only a temporary thing how does that give any real usable data?

You're grasping at straws man.

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Good graphics doesn't mean great game. It's why Wii has sold more than either Xbox 360 and PS3.

Oh and the Wii has oh so many great titles.

No, the reason the Wii is doing so damn well is because it has the lowest price point of the 3 systems and Nintendo is incredibly intelligent with regards to their marketing and strategy. They took a risk with the Wii in the hopes of trying to tap into what is now blatantly apparent a vast demographic of casuals, most of whom probably never even played videogames at all before the Wii.

Not to say that the Wii doesn't have some spectacular hits, because it does, but nowhere near the number of blockbusters on 360 or PS3. Like I said, it's cheap and marketed extremely well. And on that note, who the fuck does Iwata think he is calling out the people who make $1 app games for flooding the market with (and I'm paraphrasing here) "cheap crap" ? As opposed to the expensive crap i.e shovelware that's been flooded out into the market for the Wii? The only difference is app games are much cheaper and you can play them on your phone instead of at home on your TV.

Pot calling the kettle much?

[Kailea]

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- How in the holy hell does renting affect anything? Rental money goes right to the store I rented a game from, not the developers/publishers, and since it's only a temporary thing how does that give any real usable data?

The rental stores buy the games all the same, and so the devs/prods still get their cash.

[Malacite]

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Again, how is that even remotely relevant?

Rental stores typically order copies of games in advance, so by the time you go to rent it they've already paid them for the copies they put out to rent. In fact, when they go to put out more it's usually done with copies they'd already bought that were going to be sold, not rented out. At least that's always been the case from my own experience working in these places. So again, that argument is completely irrelevant.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Again, how is that even remotely relevant?

Rental stores typically order copies of games in advance, so by the time you go to rent it they've already paid them for the copies they put out to rent. In fact, when they go to put out more it's usually done with copies they'd already bought that were going to be sold, not rented out. At least that's always been the case from my own experience working in these places. So again, that argument is completely irrelevant.

Its quite simple.

You added to their press. You joined the numbers of players they could tout that played on the dev/publisher's servers. Kotick plays those numbers to the press, I've seen it. And there are plenty of people like you that say you hate that guy, but line his pockets or his ego anyway.

And if you're one of the first to rent the game that the rental outlet had, well, you're one of the first to help recoup their expense on that copy and it tells them they should procure more from Activision since there's clearly going to be a demand.

Did that clear things up for you? You can say these games would be rented or purchased without you, but how many other spineless consumers would say the same? Apparently a whole lot, if Modern Warfare 2's Steam "boycott" was anything to go by and that was easily the most laughable boycott since the PS3 DMC4 "boycott." Most of those boycotters just bought it anyway, too.

[DakAttack]

Re: Nintendo HD? Wii 1.5? WTF?

Good graphics doesn't mean great game. It's why Wii has sold more than either Xbox 360 and PS3.

As of March 2011:

Wii: 71 million units worldwide
PS3: 50 million units worldwide
Xbox 360: 50 million units worldwide

Because it sells doesn't mean it's superior, it means Nintendo knows how to market to casuals.

[Malacite]

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^ exactly my point, ty.

Like I said, Nintendo tapped into a previously untouched demographic that turned out to be far larger and more profitable than the standard hardcore crowd that's been the pillars supporting the industry for the last 2 decades.

This is why I'm generally angry & apathetic towards Nintendo, because they continually give us the shaft now since they've realized they no longer need us. They're letting MS & Sony duke it out for that demographic which may be smart from a business perspective but it doesn't really do anything for the industry.

[Armando]

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This is why I'm generally angry & apathetic towards Nintendo, because they continually give us the shaft now since they've realized they no longer need us.

Yeah, they've definitely forgotten us "hardcore" types. That's why there aren't any good first party Wii games! Oh wait...

If 3rd party devs don't want to develop for the Wii because that would require making a game that doesn't have hyperrealistic, gray-on-brown graphics, Nintendo can't do anything about it. It's funny that you say that Nintendo has forgotten the "hardcore" gamers, when in fact, it's this "hardcore" mentality that's been keeping the expensive HD game craze alive and thus keeping the devs developing solely for XBox and PS3.

When people start looking past the stupid "casual" vs "hardcore" labels and stop looking down at the Wii because it's got less graphics (as if that made for worse games), maybe devs will be inclined to make games for the less powerful console.