Cataclysm

[Firewind]

Re: Cataclysm

I'm on Defias Brotherhood, Horde side which is in the Rampage/Saccage Battlegroup. Basically Horde tend to stomp around on Wintergrasp but run around like headless chickens in BGs while alliance actually use fully coordinated tactics in order to win. The best you see from Horde in Rampage BGs is people yelling "INC [insert capture point here]!" or "DRUID IN FLAG ROOM WTF DEFEND NOOBS!" when Druids use the stupid OP travel form to grab flags.

They you get people flaming other people for not killing the flag runner when Alliance actually defend their flag runner while on Horde side, chances are you're going to be on your own if you get near a flag and then your team treats you like a leper.

[Aksannyi]

Re: Cataclysm

For me I find it honestly depends. Some nights I'll just roll in the wins in pvp, some nights I'm just getting my ass raped the second I rez at the graveyard to the point where I end up running away from the graveyard so I don't auto rez until the Alliance players have gone somewhere else to kill people. Hit or miss, really. I don't mind losing sometimes as long as it's actually an interesting fight. There's nothing fun about 5 Horde trying to take on 15 Alliance.

[Firewind]

Re: Cataclysm

Well considering that on my Batlegroup Horde has to wait about 30 mins plus for a BG pop and Alliance have something like a 90% win ratio it's a bit demoralising. Rampage is a terrible, terrible battlegroup and I only stay on it because Defias Brotherhood is the only RP-PVP server in the EU block that actually has a population.

Seriously, why can't Blizzard merge all battlegroups like with the US servers so horde actually have a chance at winning? Ah right I forgot that Blizzard doesn't give a shit about the European playerbase despite it being bigger than the US playerbase.

[Aksannyi]

Re: Cataclysm

Ah yeah forgot you're on EU and they're not merged. :/

So I was reading some patch notes and it turns out my talents have been reset ... again... fucking hell. Guess I'll be spending part of tonight fucking around with that instead of doing my dailies. Been looking around various websites for a "cookie cutter" build for both shadow and holy but haven't found any for this patch yet. Lol.

[Firewind]

Re: Cataclysm

They're being merged for Cata though, don't know when but they are for Cata.

If you're a Priest go Shadow, they are ridiculously overpowered right now. Well all of the caster classes currently are (Especially Warlocks who can Aone shot fully geared 80's) but Shadow Priests have gone from merely powerful to "My Rogue now sees the entire world in monochrome due to the amount of time she spend waiting in the graveyard".

The Holy tree is currently broken for Priests so if you want to heal, go Discipline for PvP. Holy's still okay for raids but don't expect to be competitive.

[DakAttack]

Re: Cataclysm

I actually enjoy RP servers, though I don't RP, myself. People tend to be more mature and thoughtful, though they may not be as good at the game as somebody on a PvP server. I find PvP servers to be filled with people who know how to get things done. An RP-PvP server must be pretty cool.

[Ufgt]

Re: Cataclysm

Yo, the update last night has me scared and confused.

[DakAttack]

Re: Cataclysm

What did the update do?

[Ufgt]

Re: Cataclysm

Org is all different looking now, and there's no portals from Dal to the major cities.

I was so lost and confused trying to find the AH and bank in Org.

[DakAttack]

Re: Cataclysm

Oh, they updated the maps. Can people without Cata play through the redesigned starting areas?

[Ufgt]

Re: Cataclysm

I don't know, maybe. I was only online last night for a short time to check things out, but I think the regions have been updated. haha.

[Aksannyi]

Re: Cataclysm

It's so weird in EK and Kalimdor now. It took me a fucking century to find the zeppelins in Durotar before I finally asked in general chat and was told they're actually in Org now. I'm glad that my home city of Undercity is blessedly unchanged. (At least, as far as I've noticed.)

I'm annoyed about the portals. Especially the ones in Shattrath. Was that necessary? There's nearly no one who hangs out there, not like Dalaran, where everyone idles. It's such a pain in the ass to get anywhere now.

I'm also annoyed that I was less than 100 quests away from Loremaster of Eastern Kingdoms and they changed the whole thing, which negated hundreds of quests worth of progress (along with some of the Kalimdor ones I'd done). I wish I'd know they were going to change the requirements for that achievement so I could have either worked harder to get it done or spent my time doing something else. Oh well, it is what it is.

they are ridiculously overpowered right now

They nerfed one of my favorite dots into oblivion, I'm totally pissed about that. I used to spam Devouring Plague and SW: Pain in BGs because it made it easy for me to keep moving, which makes it somewhat harder to die. Lol. Unless we've got enough people in the thick of it that I can stand back and cast, but that's rarely the case, so I put my dots on everyone I can and try to keep myself out of harm's way.

[Firewind]

Re: Cataclysm

Ugh, Shadow Word: Pain is probably the worst thing to be hit by on my Rogue. Trying to fight a Priest as one is a fucking nightmare thanks to whiners getting stunlocks taken out of the game. Usually goes something like this:

Me: Premeditation > Garotte
Priest: Trinket LOL Psychic Scream, Shadow Word Pain LOL, Mind Blast, Mind Flay LOLZ
Me: Cloak of Shadows
Priest: LOL Sheep'd
Me: Trinket
Priest: LOL Fear'd again! Shadow Word Pain LOL, Mind Blast, Mind Flay LOLZ
Me: *Clicks spirit healer for res*

Frost Magi are worse because of the pet (Vanish no longer prevents pets from attacking you and Blizzard refuse to fix it) and all of the snares they have. Then you have Demo Locks who have a ridiculously overpowered pet with a homing AoE attack that always hits Stealthed Rogues and Druids even if they aren't targetted and a stun with a frankly silly range on it and doesn't share a DR with the rest of the Warlock's CC abilities (meaning they can stunlock you with little effort), and that's not even including the fact that they can crit an 80 in full resil gear for 30k+.

Oh yeah Rogues just got a massive nerf to Recuperate and Ambush for 4.0.3 thanks to low level players whining AGAIN and getting Rogues nerfed AGAIN because they are too busy whining about low level PvP when the knock on effect of the inevitable anti-Rogue pissing and moaning and crying is that Rogues get crippled at Lv80. These people also fail to realise that these Rogue "One-shots" are actually about 3 or 4 abilities being fired off in quick succession and it's lag that makes it look like a one shot. people need to learn how to read combat logs.

Seriously, Ambush hits like a like an asthmatic mosquito trying to suck the blood from an old age pensioner's leathery backside. Thanks to stuns being nerfed into the ground, Cheap Shot is also a useless opener because you will need to fire off a Kidney Shot at some point in a fight so Rogues now only have one usable opener: Garotte. That. Is. It.

[Aksannyi]

Re: Cataclysm

I don't know, I am constantly getting stunned for far too fucking long, and to be honest I have no idea who the hell is hitting me with it. (Meaning what class) I just know that I'm stunned down to about half my health and by the time I even attempt to heal myself (if I even bother, because generally it doesn't go off) I'm dead. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. XD I do use the will of the forsaken, but the recast is like 3 minutes or something so that isn't always an option.

Seriously I hate fucking Pallys in PvP. Pretty much unkillable one on one, or even four on one, which is ridiculously annoying.

But yeah, losing Devouring Plague (which still does damage, just not as much) really makes me feel like my usefulness has been slashed some, but I'll continue to use it simply because it's instant cast and well, it at least does something.

[Firewind]

Re: Cataclysm

The ridiculous stuns are coming from Warlocks and Paladins. Well there's Rogues (like myself) who likes to spam Sap until a viable target comes up but considering how broken Rogue stealth is right now it's impossible to do it for long before someone spots and murders you.

Protection Paladins are hitting like a truck now (I've had Avenger's Shield crit me for higher than my best post 4.0.1 Eviscerate Crit) but that damage should balance out when the level cap goes up.

That being said, in 1v1, I actually find Paladins of all specs cute on my Rogue at the moment because it's easy for a Rogue to keep a Pally locked out of casting. Kick + Dismantle means the Paladin's running around helpless and I always have Arcane Torrent, Gouge, Blind and Kidney Shot to interrupt any other attempts at casting. Retrubution Paladins thankfully got hit with the nerf bat so they are now more like trying to take on an Arms Warrior than an absurd killing machine with Stuns and Heals coming out of every place you can imagine.

I would have to say that right now, casters (Mage, Priest, Resto/Boomkin Druid, Hunter, Warlock. Not Shaman, though the ones that know what they are doing will murder you and Shamans are technically a Rogue counter anyway) are the anti-Rogue classes which is fucking ridiculous considering that Rogues are supposed to be the hard counter to casters. Being able to counter your hard counter is pretty much a hint that your class needs nerfing.