Disgaea 4 to PS3! 11 pages of screenies!

[jenova_9]

The Magic Box - Makai Senki Disgaea 4 Preview (Page 1 of 11)

So amazing! It's great it's on PS3! it looks 3 times better now than if they released on it something inferior like PSP.
But ya, I wonder when Disgaea games will start taking advantage of PSN and include chess-like versus modes online?

[Mhurron]

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Well you finally stumbled on something worth getting interested about.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Oh look, an HD Saturn game.

Wake me up when its on PSP2 or 3DS. I prefer my SRPGs portable, that way I can actually finish them.

[Armando]

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All right! High resolution borderline chibi characters.

[Durahansolo]

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So amazing! It's great it's on PS3!

You do know they released Disgaea 3 on PS3 right?

[Tickmeoff]

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Another PS2 game from NIS being forced onto the PS3?

No thanks. I bought Disgaea 3 and it was pretty much meh. Story and character design was fairly boring, and literally all the replay value is shit that was recycled from 1 and 2, and even with all that to do it was incredibly easy because of a totally obvious and overlooked item duping glitch that made maxing out any character in the span of a couple of minutes easily done.

Not to mention that they didn't include 70% of the old classes/monsters just so they could charge extra for them as DLC later on. Fuck all that noise. Unless they do something incredible with Disgaea 4 I wont even touch it until it's on some enormous discount.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Personally, I'm not understanding NIS's platform loyalty here and as Tickmeoff said, their DLC approach leaves a lot to be desired. Even the PSP games have been rather shady with the DLC.

Both this and Disgaea 3 should have been multiplatform, which would only serve to help NIS rather than stand behind PS3. PS3 is a terrible place to stick a niche title.

[jenova_9]

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Personally, I'm not understanding NIS's platform loyalty here and as Tickmeoff said, their DLC approach leaves a lot to be desired. Even the PSP games have been rather shady with the DLC.

Both this and Disgaea 3 should have been multiplatform, which would only serve to help NIS rather than stand behind PS3. PS3 is a terrible place to stick a niche title.

wrong wrong wrong. It would get more interest and sales. Just because you can't afford to spend enough time at home to finish a console game, doesn't make them useless.

Thanks to the PS3 port, "niche" games and generally games that won't get much attention, will get MORE attention thanks to
PSN's great online community and worldwide connection for online play for games like Arcana Heart 3 (one of the most balanced and popular fighting games in Japan, tournaments and everything!)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuWfXCWFtC0]YouTube - Arcana Heart 3 - All Character Combo Exhibition[/ame]


And many of us were introduced to Disgaea when it released on PS2, mew. (not having to waste money on a PSP.)

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asO9YEQLiWo]YouTube - Disgaea Tutorial (2/46)[/ame]

Disgaea franchise belongs on consoles, and at least the PS3 for the newer generation of Disgaeas.

Releasing it on portables would diminish its quality and size
(UMDs have very little space, and PSPs have little memory, that some reasons why all their games look short and cheap, and that's also why they cost less than PS3 games.)

So ya, it's obvious to release the next Disgaea on PS3, mew.


But ya, I wouldn't mind if Disgaea 4 was multiplatform, that is something Dissidia should have received. It would have gotten, more sales, fans and players online on PS3.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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wrong wrong wrong. It would get more interest and sales. Just because you can't afford to spend enough time at home to finish a console game, doesn't make them useless.

My point is if it were on a handheld, I'd finish them faster since "couch" is not a place I can always be. Yet, through this amazing technology, I can play in a restaurant, on break at work or at my couch, my bed or that other place we all play them but don't discuss openly.

Bottom line, games get done faster.

The problem with Disgaea being exclusive is it does not really benefit NIS to stay exclusive. On the other hand, the point of Dissidia is to have SE help Sony move PSPs, which it has actually proven to do. Making a PSN version completely defeats the purpose of what Sony pays SE to do.

Because in Japan

Handheld market = Everything
Console market = Becoming less relevant every day.

[Mhurron]

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Another PS2 game from NIS being forced onto the PS3?

Not that it makes much difference for a srpg on a grid, but Disgaea 4 was supposedly created specifically for the PS3's graphics and has higher resolution sprites.

It is also supposed to have a networked mode of some sort.

[Armando]

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Releasing it on portables would diminish its quality and size

You're an idiot. Quality is not proportional to graphics.

And the extra graphical quality is wasted on a game like Disgaea. The characters are cartoony and childlike, and they're always seen from the same isometric zoomed-out viewpoint. What's giving you such a hard-on, being able to make out their eyes and faces better?

Thanks to the PS3 port, "niche" games and generally games that won't get much attention, will get MORE attention thanks to
PSN's great online community and worldwide connection for online play for games like Arcana Heart 3 (one of the most balanced and popular fighting games in Japan, tournaments and everything!)

Nope. They're just driving up their production costs while lowering their potential sales.

[Mhurron]

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The more games NIS puts on the PSP means more games I'll never play, which sucks.

[jenova_9]

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Like the saying goes, you get what you pay for. PSP and its games cost less, and their content is worth less.

You're an idiot. Quality is not proportional to graphics.

And the extra graphical quality is wasted on a game like Disgaea. The characters are cartoony and childlike, and they're always seen from the same isometric zoomed-out viewpoint.

It still stands that it looks much better than it did before, slightly, but still noticable. And cartoony is no excuse to not take advantage of PS3's hardware, even just a little more than what PSPs can do. And big screen > small screen, mew.

They're just driving up their production costs while lowering their potential sales.

okay then all companies and teams should think small and spend little making games.
Let's make Metal Gear Peace Walkers instead of Metal Gear Solid 5s.
Let's work on Birth by Sleep instead of Kingdom Hearts 3.
Let's make the sequel to Dissidia on PSP, even though there isn't enough space to include all the characters the developers want to add.
Let's try to fit Left 4 Dead on UMD and still look and play exactly like the other versions.

Let's dump the whole console industry and just make short and cheap portable games with no real online community for gaming.
Let's try to make Final Fantasy XIV Online work on PSP.

cheap cheap cheap, that is all PSP (and all portables. DS, 3DS, etc.) is, and it just gives developers excuses to not make their games better than they could have been on better hardware.

It's like developers and consumers settling for a slice instead of whole boxes of pizza with toppings, mew.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Like the saying goes, you get what you pay for. PSP and its games cost less, and their content is worth less.

Which explains the hundreds of horus you could sink into Dissidia, Pokemon, Etrian Odyssey, Monster Hunter, Phantasy Star Portable 2, Valkyria Chronicles 2, Persona 3 Portable, MGS Peace Walker, SMT Strange Journey, Infinite Space and Devil Survivor.

Because lower producting costs mean less content.

Actually, lower production costs means more content, more value, potentially bigger games. I've sunk 55 hours into Phantasy Star Portable 2 and only seen half the areas because there are plenty of new ones. There's the PSU zones, the zones from the expansions, the zones from the previous PSP game and somehow, they even managed to cram in VR levels that simulate PSO areas and bosses, Tactical Missions, Challenge missions and PVP.

28 weapon types, four customizable classes, 200 physical levels, 20 job levels, numerous clothing options that help you create a unique avatar, 60+ hairstyles of any color you want, personal living quarters you can decorate or reshape the interior design of and dozens and dozens of little Sega goodies and anime outfits from Shaman King, Evangelion, Vocaloid and more.

And I can play it online in infrastructure mode, so no silly tethering to the PS3 with that lame Ad Hoc Party shit.

And the game doesn't even crack a gigabyte, it actually falls 50 MB short. I'm sure they'll get over that mark once PSP2 Infinity is out.

How many PS3 games are that feature-rich?

Chances are, due to high expense of producing HD games, you're lucky if you could even provide a third of that content.

I could go on and on just as much about MGS: Peace Walker. It essentially is Metal Gear: The RPG as far as I'm concerned. This game is a close second to MGS3 for me and its because of the inspirations from Monster Hunter and the pick-up-and-play structure a handheld demands.

Its a lot better than MGS4: The Loading Screen.

Pokemon is just crazy with all it can do, there's a large history of content I'm sure Armando could school you on there. For such a "kiddie" game it puts a lot of console RPGs to shame.

Choosing a cheaper platform seems to mean you can do a lot more. Pokemon is one of the steepest prices as far as DS games go, but they damn well make that price worth it because you can get hundreds of hours of play.

So yeah, value is where handhelds tend to shine. Its why Professor Layton is Level 5's most prolific and well-known franchise and looking to get its own feature length animated film. Its why DS gets Okami, Final Fantasy remakes and shares a lot of niche RPGs with PSP.

Are there sacrifices made? Sure, there are sacrifices, but it means I see games produced more quickly, with good quality and quite clearly more content than today's HD games.

Let's try to make Final Fantasy XIV Online work on PSP.

I wouldn't get so cocky, SE is already looking into handheld MMOs, given handheld P2P RPGs seem to do really fucking well on PSP.

Gaming - News - Square Enix: 'Handheld MMOs possible' - Digital Spy

[Kailea]

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cheap cheap cheap, that is all PSP (and all portables. DS, 3DS, etc.) is, and it just gives developers excuses to not make their games better than they could have been on better hardware.

It's like developers and consumers settling for a slice instead of whole boxes of pizza with toppings, mew.

really? that's what you think hand helds are? wow, you really need to give them a better shot then. Because there are many games on hand held that are awesome as hell.

Dragon Quest IX is a good example, along with Pokemon and Zelda, and many other games on DS, there are some good remakes and original RPGs on PSP as well.