So... Starcraft 2?

[Ufgt]

Re: So... Starcraft 2?

Stalkers can only blink to areas that are not covered by fog of war. I tried to rush blink stalkers today and it didn't work cuz I didn't have sight on to their hill. Kinda lame considering all the other crazy shit this game has *coughreaperscough*.

[Malacite]

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That guy really got owned wow... do Toss not have any early splash damage units? He really needed to go air that game, the barriers just weren't going to work against that many 'lings and IMO, he's a moron for not realizing his strategy wasn't going to work sooner.

I know SC is one of the fastest paced RTS out there, but Halo Wars is no slouch either and I've gotten into the habit of changing entire strategies and builds on the fly because of it. He really needed more ranged units, especially airborne ones.

[DakAttack]

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So, there's a BioShock reference in the SC2 achievements. It's called 'Would You Kindly...", and requires players to destroy 5 units with a single Neural Parasited unit. Pretty neat.

[MrMageo]

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just an added point on zerg scouting, roaches are a cheap unit, and with tunneling claws, in can allow you to get a decent early-midgame scout. Simply burrow inside a base and patrol it while burrowed. This works well against Terran and Toss, until they get detection up (observer/canon, or raven/missle turret). against zerg it can work as well, until overseers are out.

The only drawback is teching early for tunneling claws. However it is one of the speedier "cloaked" units you can field, and its cost in comparison to Observers and DT/ or Banshee/Ghost is pretty cheap. Static defenses, are also easy to avoid.

A small scouting team of roaches can also double as a harassment squad. 3-4 can make quick work of a mineral line.

[Balfree]

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Eh, I'm not even going near SC2 until they announce some kind of collection with all 3 bundled at a discount.

wat do you mean ?

[Kailea]

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wat do you mean ?

Malacite is like me, and many others, we are not touching SC2 until all three race campaigns come out, in some form of collection pack, at a lower price then paying 59.99 for each.

[DakAttack]

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Malacite is like me, and many others, we are not touching SC2 until all three race campaigns come out, in some form of collection pack, at a lower price then paying 59.99 for each.

Bawww. I don't know anybody who plays this game only for the single player campaign, and this isn't specifically Terran only, there's a few Protoss and Zerg missions in there, as well, if I read it correctly. I've only played the first mission and clicked through the first interactive scene, and it's pretty neat.

[MrMageo]

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Actually there are no zerg missions, (unless I have missed one somewhere but i think i have nailed them all). There is protoss missions however. (several in a diverged story arc).

As for the game costing 59.99 3 times, I can't remember the last time an expansion pack cost as much as the game itself. Usually it is 20-30 dollars cheaper. Most likely less (when SC1 was first launched as a stand alone game pre expanion, the cost was 49.99, the expac released at 19.99) The bundle still cost 39.99, so you save a grand total of 20 bucks. However, you choose to pay monthly 13+ dollars, to play an MMO, that hasn't changed in 4 years. (minus the rehash of new acheesea areas.)

There is nothing wrong with wanting to wait. But putting it on price is pretty lame. I could understand waiting so you could play the whole story arc at once, (like you could in SC1+BW) but Blizz has said expect the releases to be several months in between. If you can't put together 10-15 bucks a month aside, over the course of several months to buy the expacks as they come out then how can you play final fantasy 11 or other MMO's on a month to month basis.

Hell the cost is inflated for the first copy because it contains the new batte.net client, the new SC2 online client, the Editor Client. The only thing that an expansion will need is 30 or so missions, it doesn't need any extra bullshit, 30 or so missions and thats all.

Cost my ass.....

[Kailea]

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Hell the cost is inflated for the first copy because it contains the new batte.net client, the new SC2 online client, the Editor Client. The only thing that an expansion will need is 30 or so missions, it doesn't need any extra bullshit, 30 or so missions and thats all.

Blizzard already said that the other 2 games, each giving the other races stories, will be full stand alone games, each costing 59.99

179.97 just to get the story missions for all three races? no thanks -.- like I said, I will wait for a Collection box that will have all three, for a much lower price (say $100 or so)

[DakAttack]

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Why are gamers such strange people? Why are people who are willing to put together new computers, or buy expensive new pieces, just for one game not willing to purchase three full games? This reminds me of L4D2, when people thought boycotting it was a good idea because it came too soon after the original. One year is too soon? With the way Valve let L4D turn to shit, I would have expected a replacement, anyways.

Anyways, I've been totally off my game. I'm always being scouted and countered, so I really need to take the initiative with spying and counter or find a way to disguise what units I plan on building. One of my favorite ways to disguise involves proxy command centers in random locations on large maps, but that's rare on 2v2.

[Kailea]

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Why are gamers such strange people? Why are people who are willing to put together new computers, or buy expensive new pieces, just for one game not willing to purchase three full games? This reminds me of L4D2, when people thought boycotting it was a good idea because it came too soon after the original. One year is too soon? With the way Valve let L4D turn to shit, I would have expected a replacement, anyways.

Anyways, I've been totally off my game. I'm always being scouted and countered, so I really need to take the initiative with spying and counter or find a way to disguise what units I plan on building. One of my favorite ways to disguise involves proxy command centers in random locations on large maps, but that's rare on 2v2.

sorry but I don't build a new PC for one game, nor do I use expensive parts, a real PC builder knows when/if and where/how much to spend, and or buy a new part if need be.

[DakAttack]

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a real PC builder knows when/if and where/how much to spend, and or buy a new part if need be.

You'll have to clarify.

[Kailea]

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You'll have to clarify.

Do you really need to upgrade or just clean up the PC?
If you do what parts really need upgrading to get your results
Now that you know what parts, where can you go to get the best at the cheapest, and if need be the fastest

[DakAttack]

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Well, I bought a computer with 'decent' parts, so I'm upgrading for FFXIV. After countless discussions with beta players, I know I'm not the only one. The only way to make this affordable for me is to do it in phases. Graphics card first, because it'll help the most. CPU and mobo second, because I'll need a mobo that'll support the CPU. The mobo will probably be SLI-ready.

[MrMageo]

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Blizzard already said that the other 2 games, each giving the other races stories, will be full stand alone games, each costing 59.99

179.97 just to get the story missions for all three races? no thanks -.- like I said, I will wait for a Collection box that will have all three, for a much lower price (say $100 or so)
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And I call bullshit. The only reason this first installment was 59.99 and not 39.99 or less was because it contains, the entire new battlenet client (that all blizz games will be moving to) it contains the entire online multiplayer, and it contains the Campaign Editor. You show me a nice linky where blizzard has it stated that the next 2 will cost as much as this one.

They are also not stand alone games, they are expansions, they have always been expansions, they just happen to contain 30 missions each (for a total of 90). Don't know where you get your info, but blizzard has still not A. Set a release date for heart of the swarm, nor B. Set a price for their EXPANSIONS. Considering the min thrust of content, IE. The battle net system, the multiplayer engine/servers are all now live and contained in the first installment, you would have to be pretty retarded to think it costs the same down the line.