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Finally got around to watching that trailer.
Looks like Geoff Johns is basing the games story on Grant Morrison's Justice League: Earth 2 story, though he's going in somewhat of a different direction with it. In the original version - as well as the recent animated adaptation Crisis on Two Earths - the heros we know are villains on Earth 2 and the villains are the heroes and they're losing out to the mafia-like villains
Earth 2's Luthor builds a device and travels to Earth 1 to meet with the Justice League there and petition their help. Being a Luthor, they don't entirely trust him, but come along to see it for themselves and end up helping him.
This trailer tells a different, if similar scenario. Seems in the future the bad guys win on Earth 1 and it leads to a bigger cost than Luthor realizes - Brainiac takes control of the Earth, so he goes back in time to warn the JLA of the looming threat.
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that is very insightful! It goes to show a previous formula can be used in a different new way. also it seems the future Lex is the one who gives many in the world super powers from the exobytes collected by Brainiac or something.
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Looking back on it, he's also drawing on Grant Morrison's Rock of Ages story. Damn good story, too. There's a little of Star Trek's "City on the Edge of Forever" there, too.
The main thrust of the story is is Luthor and his "Injustice Gang" have come into possession of the Philosopher's Stone and with it you can do just about anything you can imagine. Well turns out, Superman gets it away from Luthor and destroys it. And there is a grave consequence for its destruction - Darkseid will be able to conquer Earth because the possession of this artifact would be the one powerful enough to counter him
Before that happens Flash, Green Lantern and Aquaman get lost in time and space, eventually finding themselves back on Earth, but in the future bodies of their future selves in a world overtaken by Darkseid. Superman is dead, lots of heroes are dead. Batman is believed to be dead. Wonder Woman leads the resistance and once the guys are there with her, they make one big last stand. Most of them die, but our time lost heros manage to find a a way to send a warning through time to get Martian Manhunter and he stop Superman from destroying the rock.
And that story gets some parallels in Final Crisis. A lot of the events are different, but the most critical moments mirror Rock of Ages.
Also, I forget to mention it, but Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths is on Netflix. Seeing James Woods voice Batman's doppleganger, Owlman, practically made that movie for me. It was good all around, but that put it over the top for me.
So you want an MMO version of the cross-over event no one asked for?
Exactly.
Watching the Joker fight was more than enough to convince me just how well the unlikely concept worked. Not to mention I'd definitely play a Hero MMOG where I'd be able to perform Fatalities in PvP. That's for sure.
sigpic "In this world, the one who has the most fun is the winner!"C.B.
Watching the Joker fight was more than enough to convince me just how well the unlikely concept worked. Not to mention I'd definitely play a Hero MMOG where I'd be able to perform Fatalities in PvP. That's for sure.
DC fans were generally offended because of how much they got wrong about the DC characters. MK fans were annoyed DC characters had morals that prevented them from killing, even though they did compromise on a few villains who aren't usually killers unless they're pressed to do so.
Lex Luthor is a killer, its not something he constantly seeks out to do. Catwoman killed Black Mask in self-defense, I don't think that qualifies her for a fatality. Joker? Looks for any excuse? Deathstroke? He's a hitman. Doomsday? All he knows is killing.
Wonder Woman killed Max Lord, but she had no fatality. Superman killed the three Kryptonians from an Earth where Lex Luthor was good and he created a Supergirl to fight them. Our Superman used the kyrptonite of that universe to kill them, which didn't affect him. Pretty much the basis of why he gave Batman Luthor's Kryptonite ring.
No fatality for Superman.
Then there was the MK side which also faced some compromises, but mostly in terms of MK gameplay.
It wasn't a good game and the concepts between the two conflicted too greatly.
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More like purists (on both sides) didn't even give it a chance because of how the story and character strenghts/weaknesses were affected "by magic" in order to make the impossible possible.
And yet story mode worked better than most people want to give it credit for.
Besides, it's all a paralel universe and seeing things like Shang Tsung saying "Fatality?" or watching the Joker push down Deathstroke with a simple push were more than worth the admission ticket.
But yeah, that's just me.
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It's kinda ironic I'd say all this about MK vs DC after how much I hated the new Star Trek, which could be interpreted the same way. The only difference is one was a very cool special event, and the other was an atempt to restart the franchise. Now, if they wanted to restart the DC and MK universes using MK vs DC as the starting point...
Then you'd see me at the front of the line to get that torch and pitchfork.
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Well, to be fair TOS started out when a very young cast than ended up doing movies when they were much older and continued to appear until like 1998. James Doohan and Deforest Kelly are both dead and Shatner and Nimoy are both 79 years old.
TNG's cast started out older.Patrick Stewart is 70 now. We could have kept going with Johnathan Frakes with Riker as Captain, but they just had to riff on Star Trek II's theme's of characters like Kirk and Picard "should stay captain" in Generations. Plus no one would accept Riker as captain. Or even Worf (though that would have been really badass).
Doesn't help Brent Spiner pulled a Spock at the end of Nemesis. Oh sure, he left a door, but he left a door with his autistic android brother. They've already exploited it in comics and novels, but there's no way you're getting him back.
After that is just complication after complication. Avery Brooks is a hardass, a love/hate sort of person off the set. Not that I blame him, Star Trek did sort of start to go astray with Rick Berman still at the helm, he finally let go after the farce that was Enterprise.
So what's left to do but do a "reboot" that doubles as a divergent timeline? You can hire new actors, re-explore old stories from a new angle. Its not like the original timeline is invalid. I mean, Old Spock is there, he's proof that timeline happened. for 128 years after TOS. That ship he had was created by Geordi LaForge (though Young Spock sploded it good).
I like the changes. Spock gets an excuse to act a little more human. Kirk is still a gamechanger, he just gets his ass kicked a lot. Bones is even more bitter than ever. Uhura, well, she's just smoking hot. And Simon Pegg as Scotty? That's gold.
I'd love to see a take on Mirror Mirror with this cast, but we all know they need to have a face off with the Klingons first.
But that's Star Trek, it can get away with divergent timelines.
MK Vs. DC is a crossover and while you don't need that crossover to make sense in terms of how it happens, you still have to maintain the best parts of both sides to make it work. If Batman and Wolverine team up, there has to be that conflict of logic vs. instinct, but Batman isn't going to work with Wolvie if he goes all slice-and-dice on people, so Batman will find a way to keep him in check (and being Batman, he will find a way).
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