Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Is Devil Hunter A New Shin Megami Tensei Spinoff? // Siliconera

So...

Devil Hunter - probably a SMT spin-off, they like to put "devil" in a lot of their subtitles. Could be the "Shin Megami Tensei" 3DS game, could be the PS3 game. We know there's a Devil Survivor Sequel and a Persona game for 3DS in the works, so there is a chance this could be the PS3 one - and after four years of it just being on the books as "Shin Megami Tensei" I think we're about due to see the PS3 game.

I doubt its a Monster Hunter clone, as they seem to be all the rage in Japan and Atlus doesn't really go along with what all the other kids do over here. I suppose its possible they'd do a SMT-themed MH clone, but it seems out of character. They do have the beastiary for it, though.

Gungnir - It known previously that they were working on a game themed around Norse mythology, this would seem to be that game.

Radiant Historia - no fuckin' clue here, but I'll take a wild guess. Its an RPG of some kind.

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Also, as the title says, Namco-Bandai did say God Eater Burst - the expansion version of God Eater - is slated for western release next year. Kinda glad they waited to give use the updated version, actually.

Its sort of a MH clone, but with a little more focus on the story. I actually like Monster Hunter's lack of story, but w/e.

SE also announced Lords of Arcana for PSP, which is also a MH=style game. The interesting thing so far to note about it has an interesting range of artists on the project for monster designs. Both Yoshitaka Amano and Todd McFarlane will be doing art direction.

Really, though, you may as well toss in Nomura to draw some beasts as well, I always like his monsters better than this designs for human/humanoid characters.

[Feba]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

Its an RPG of some kind.

Oh BBQ, you're so reckless!

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

Well, it didn't sound much like Hammerin' Hero's genre

[Neverslip]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

After realizing I or was impressed with several of their games, I got put on their emailing list yesterday, lol... love Demon's Souls... starting to love 3D Dot Heroes, impressed with Xeno Clash's UE demo... really liking this studio's style.

I love Norse.... sounds cool to me.

[Icemage]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

Atlus is probably my favorite publisher right now. Demon's Souls is brilliant. So is 3D Dot Game Heroes. Unless these games are horribly flawed, I will happily support all of them.


Icemage

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

Just thought I'd throw this in addition to the existing topic:

“We Are Preparing To Start Work On The Next Persona” // Siliconera

This is an old story, but it seems that Persona 5 is still on the drawing boards, but not in development yet. A lot of people seem hopeful it will be a PS3 game, but I've yet to see any basis for that other than past appearances. Given Japan's love for handhelds and that being where all the other JRPG action is at lately I really wouldn't be surprised it Persona 5 was just handheld.

I mean, going handheld-only hasn't hurt Dragon Quest and others at all, really.

Then again, Persona 3 and 4 took a ton of planning due to the use of a calander-based system. People have to be in places on certain days, weather conditions and moon phases, student clubs and jobs. The staff just about killed each other over Persona 4 as it is. Which reminds me... I need to find out what happened to that other PSP project they worked on.

I've heard nothing about Tokyo Mono Hara Shi since that was announced for Japan last year, but it that could be that "Radiant Historia" is the US name for that game.

[jenova_9]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

oh just release Persona 5 on PS3 already! It better be as good as P3P, and better!

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

Atlus is going to choose the platform that makes them the greatest profit for the least amount of expense, I'd say that hurts PS3's chances considerably. Unless they've been doing this "SMT" game with a small team over the last four years and feeding them steady funds, I don't see it and, really, I don't see Persona 5 happening until the actual main series has a turn.

SMT: Strange Journey is main series, but I think it was also laying the ground work for 3DS releases. If you doubt how Atlus recycles things - look at the art assets in Strange Journey and then look at the engine it was running on. That engine was on DS twice before in the for of Etrian Odyssey and EO II.

[jenova_9]

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well they can't always avoid PS3. They have to make the move eventually.

I'm sure their R&D already made significant progress to get accustomed to PS3.
If anything, they might choose X360 since it's easier to develop games for, but that would hurt Japan sales.

plus the interview with the Persona 5 producer, they said there are many things they wanted to do before that they are planning to do now with it, so the only way to have the best console hardware and possibilities would be to choose one of the two biggest consoles today.

And it's totally possible to recycle assets they used in the PS2 games, look at Disgaea on PS3, it's practically the same engine but it's still made for PS3 instead of PS2.

[Feba]

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well they can't always avoid PS3

Why not? The rest of the market is.

[jenova_9]

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What rest of the market? Konami, Capcom, Sega, Arc Systems, Namco Bandai, and a lot of other companies have already been onboard the PS3, and Valve is already joining forces. PSN on top of that provides a window for smaller companies to take advantage of too, mew. And Xbox360 is a fine choice for developers too.

if Persona 5 goes DS or PSP, it will flop just like Peace Walker.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Three new Atlus trademarks; Namco confirms God Eater Burst for 2011 in the west

What rest of the market? Konami, Capcom, Sega, Arc Systems, Namco Bandai, and a lot of other companies have already been onboard the PS3, and Valve is already joining forces. PSN on top of that provides a window for smaller companies to take advantage of too, mew. And Xbox360 is a fine choice for developers too.

if Persona 5 goes DS or PSP, it will flop just like Peace Walker.

Except the NPDs don't tell the whole story on Peace Walker. First week sales in Japan were strong and I'm farily sure it will have a bit of a tail in the months to come. The Monster Hunter crowd dug it, so it has a fighting chance.

Also, being on a lower budget, I doubt Peace Walker would have to be a million-seller to be considered a success.

Atlus can sell 50k of a game and its a success, anything after that is a bonus. Publishing Demon's Souls turned out to be a hell of a bonus. Atlus didn't even make that game, but after Atlus localized and published it - something SCEA refused to do themselves - they netted a cool $7 Million. That's a drop in the bucket for some companies, but that's a huge coup for Atlus USA.

So I'm pretty confident that if Persona 5 went to PSP or 3DS that it would actually be as successful, if not moreso, than its PS2 predecessors. See, handhelds don't limit their audience, they're complete devices and you don't need an HDTV, HDMI cables, 7.1 surround sound and all that other bullshit to enjoy your game.

You just stick the game in the handheld and go.

SMT Strange Journey, SMT Devil Survivor and P3P have all turned a profit. SMT Persona saw a price drop after about four months on the market - I would attribute that to the game being rather antiquated for a PSP game. That's not a bad thing, its just not as fun to play as Persona 3 and 4 are. I still have it, glad I got it. It broke even in all territories, too.

The bottom line is that games don't have to be million-sellers to be successful and they don't have to be on consoles to secure that level of success. Atlus has stayed afloat with success amidst a turbulent economy that has damaged smaller companies like them. Nippon Ichi has apparently learned nothing from all the losses they've taken - they're still making PS3 games after all the failure they've suffered for making PS3 exclusives.

Sorry, but I don't want a company to bankrupt themselves to make me happy. Some gamers do and I find them to be quite strange. They think Okamiden should have been a PS3 game. I think there's a reason its on DS - it didn't sell on PS2. Some thing with Valkyria Chronicles and others. Look how far SE has been able to milk d Kingdom Hearts' assets, hell, look at the millions they made on Dragon Quest IX.

They don't do this to frustrate western gamers, they're doing what is profitable.

[Feba]

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What rest of the market?

Hint: The Market is controlled by the buyers, not the sellers.

Part of Peace Walker's problem is lack of publicity. Sure, if you're a gamer, you probably knew about it anyway, but it didn't have the sort of force that the console games have. That's not a bad thing; from everything I've seen, it's aimed at a more hardcore crowd. Nothing wrong with that. But I mean, I didn't fully realize it was out until I saw it in a store. That's an issue.

And yeah, I still haven't bought it because I'm busy. Lack of sales doesn't mean lack of sales in the future.

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they're complete devices and you don't need an HDTV, HDMI cables, 7.1 surround sound and all that other bullshit to enjoy your game.

Oh, and yes, this is why I took years to play MGS4, and one of the reasons I still haven't purchased any current gen system other than Wii. I want to play my games at their best; I can do that on PS2, on Wii, on PSP, and soon to be 3DS. I can't do that on a PS360.

And yes, as some of you may remember, I have a big screen TV and a Bose, so it's a little fucking ridiculous.

[jenova_9]

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ya I know Atlus has to play it safe, but to me, Persona is the most recognizable franchise they have, even more so than Disgaea, those two series are what Atlus is known for to some people like me that aren't huge Atlus fans but see they have potential in providing bigger and better Persona games on the latest consoles.

I mean come now, releasing Persona 5 on PSP is like if Final Fantasy XIII was released for PSP instead of PS3.
They would definitely make more sales on PS3.

Making a game for PSP also means companies are asking pirates to download it instantly. So much sales was lost from many PSP games. Dissidia lost over 5 million due to piracy. PSP isn't a smart choice for serious moneymaking and multiplayer games like Dissida would have benefitted better from PSN instead of ad-hoc.


Also, you don't need HDTV and all that sound system stuff to enjoy PS3 games, just a SDTV will do fine. And any SDTV is better than that small pathetic screen PSP owners have to deal with. And if a part of the controller breaks, you have to replace the whole system. If the screen is cracked, you have to replace the whole system. And it's not comfy playing games with a system where the controller and screen are wrapped into one. That's just low budget, low quality gaming.

Persona 5 deserves a better platform and deliver a bigger experience than what the PSP can provide.

That's why I think they are taking their time with Persona 5 for PS3 or Xbox360, because they wanna deliver a quality product.

They can have a real quality winner in their hands, but if they retreat to PSP, then they limiting their potential.
Persona 3 and 4 already proven the series can be successful on console. So can it be a success on console too if they market it right and fill in the necessary features, improvements and presentation!

Demon souls is ps3 only I think and that is a success like you said. Atlus should take full advantage of PS3 to make the best Persona 5 they could make at this time.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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To be fair, Feba, 360 was made to be compatible with an SD TV.

Its Sony that gave everyone the finger and said "HD Onry" and to make matters worse, not all the games run in 1080p. Most of them run at 720p on PS3, which makes you wonder why you bothered with a 1080p HDTV.

To make matters worse for Sony, all 360 games can actually scale to 1080.

For someone that acts like they're still the market leader, Sony drops the ball quite a bit.


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Also, J9 - learn the difference between publishing and developing a game.

Demon's Souls is a Sony Computere Entertainment Japan/From Software game, Atlus USA localized and published it.
Disgaea is a Nippon Ichi game, Atlus USA localized and published it.

Atlus did not develop or create those games, Atlus makes Persona, SMT, Etrian Odyssey, Dokapon Kingdom and the like.

Also, you MUST have an HDTV to play PS3 games. Not an option there are only HDMI outputs. You MUST have an HDTV. 360 and Wii do not require this of you.

Also, there are apparently enough devoted fans to Atlus willing to buy a game rather than pirate it.

I don't particularly think most pirates are savvy about Atlus games, see, they rationalize what they do because big companies are greedy evil, so they spend their angst on stealing from Sony, Square Enix and companies on that level. I doubt they'd know of Atlus if they were asked about it. Atlus is not on the "greedy and evil" list.

All the piracy in the world hasn't stopped Atlus PSP and DS games from turning a profit.