E3 2010

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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At this point, I'd rather just have actual remakes of MG and MG2. The MSX versions are just waaaaaaay too dated for me. They didn't age well at all. Plus they need to be brought more in sync with the THOSE GUYS thing. Snake doesn't have to be privy to it until THAT GAME WITH THE 2 anyway.

I'm not to the end of Peace Walker, so I'm not quite sure what pushes THAT GUY to go against the THOSE GUYS. I have a feeling his reason was rather different from THOSE OTHER PEOPLE, even though the his actions are ultimately the same.

[Feba]

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A remake is fine too. Also, you really need to start using the spoiler tags for stuff related to MGS plot, BBQ.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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This is an image from RE Revelations



For the 3DS.

And MGS 3DS:





I tried not to use the spoiler pic, did I do a good job?

[Balfree]

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Chris looking hawt as always.

[MrMageo]

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In after "MS and Sony jumping on motion control bandwagon with"

3DS is going to have

an analog stick as well, very nice.

Gosh nintendo can't you come up with anything on your own instead of having to steal hardware ideas from Sony all the time jeez get off the bandwagon.

Anyhow now that the fanboy bash is done....

My rankings for the hardware guys this year

9/10 Sony

I think this is the year of the playstation, I don't think they will out sell nintendo, but I think they will still many people from the other "mature" gaming platform Microsoft, and increase their over all sales % of the market closer to nintendo. Now that the system is affordable, comes with the new "move" toy, and is being upgraded to unheard of console levels memory and speed wise I look forward to it. PSP sales will likely drop again, on the heels of the 3DS but certain games may attract few people to buy one of each.

Overly: Not wowed but very optimistic

8.5/10 Nintendo

Enjoyed it, I always have soft spot for nintendo because of the "fun factor" the games are just good harted fun. Focusing on the same direction will ensure nintendo keeps the #1 spot because it is a family thing. First part content is looking strong, and probably better than sony, but since they didnt really have anything new for their console I think PS3 could steal some consumers, but not enough to ripple the waters. 3DS is exciting, bu to me its retarded, 3D is a fad and when people get tired of it you will have another DS the 4th in the last 4-5 years (DS,DSlite,DS(big screens or w/e it is)3DS)

Over all: More of the same, Sony had big announcements Nintendo did not, and for that I am disapointed

7/10. Microsoft, fail. But what can you expect from a non-gamin game company. Sales will likely drop, as no fix has been found for the disc destruction or RROD, other than free systems. No real new content was displayed. No bench mark upgrades to match its HD competitor in the PS3. Ever since the HD movie (game/storage) format war was lost to BluRay Microsoft has been falling, and this time halo wont be enough to keep them heads up. Get ready for a new console, probably with 3D, (i hate 3D).

Over all: read first broken sentence.

Oh and if you didn't see any of it Kevin Butler did true justice to all gaming and really impressed me with a gaming in general speech and not play up sony talk (too much)

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[Balfree]

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i THANKS you, kinda, MrMageo.

[Feba]

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Gosh nintendo can't you come up with anything on your own instead of having to steal hardware ideas from Sony all the time jeez get off the bandwagon.

Because the analog joystick in its current form was brought to you by Sony. OH WAIT, N64 RELEASED WITH AN ANALOG STICK STANDARD AND THEN SONY RUSHED TO ADD IT IN TO THEIR VIBRATION CONTROLLERS LAWL.

Over all: More of the same, Sony had big announcements Nintendo did not,

olawd.

7/10. Microsoft, fail. But what can you expect from a non-gamin game company.

This, though. I was almost expecting Sony to say at a couple points "but at least Nintendo has a fucking clue what they're doing in this industry!".

[MrMageo]

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OH WAIT, N64 RELEASED WITH AN ANALOG STICK STANDARD AND THEN SONY RUSHED TO ADD IT IN TO THEIR VIBRATION CONTROLLERS LAWL.

Please Atari wants to have a word wit you, but who put the first on on the hand held?

EDIT (The Sega Saturn had an analog joystick control before nintendo 64 was ever released as well. Also sony's dual shock cntrollers were the third set of controls for the PSX Google the more you know.)

olawd.

and what pray tell did Nintendo announce that was anywhere close to the hardware upgrades Sony is planing? Im talking about consoles. Hell games wise the only half decent Nintendo game shown was donkey kong(and thankfully I still have the original on my SNES), The Zelda demo was crap, great premise. But if I have to shut off my router, 2 pc's my ps3, my cell phones, then ask my neighbors to do the same just t avoid any potential wireless interference to play it, well seems like quite the hassle to me.

(Did you even watch any of the E3 stuff?)

[Feba]

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Please Atari wants to have a word wit you,

the analog joystick in its current form

As in "a small stick controlled by placing the thumb on top, instead of being gripped with the full hand as in an arcade controller or aircraft". You lose at reading comprehension yet again, but thanks for playing! Maybe one of these days you'll get it.

and what pray tell did Nintendo announce that was anywhere close to the hardware upgrades Sony is planing?

I don't know, content? As opposed to bigger hard drives and 3D shit you claim to not care about? Unless you seriously are that blown away by Move, in which case even more lolz.

But if I have to shut off my router, 2 pc's my ps3, my cell phones, then ask my neighbors to do the same just t avoid any potential wireless interference to play it,

Wow, you're clueless. You do realize that was an excuse, right? In their actual usage setting, it performed fine. As do all other wireless gaming devices.

[MrMageo]

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Considering it was a demo for one of the strongest and long lasting Nintendo titles (and my second favorite franchise of games all time) I was disappointed by it. Excuse or not, the demo of the game was lackluster, it came off as clunky and of poor quality.

As for move, no I am not that interested in it. I prefer to button smash on my consoles. I liked Sony's line up better, I am sorry but mario sports, goldeneye 2010, and Wii party just didn't appeal to me. But GT5 (which I already knew was coming) Socom 4, Little Big planet 2 all have appeal to me.

Im not trashing Nintendo they have a lot of very legitimate fun games, I enjoy playing a lot of Wii titles. I just think in terms of display at the largest gaming summit of the year that Sony displayed a brighter future. Content comes from the 3rd party for Sony more often than not, so yes in comparison of the platforms Sony announced the most interesting changes.


(also what part of sega saturn having one before nintendo did you not understand reading comprehension what?)

[Nandito]

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All I wanted was a Kirby Wii game, and I got it. So I'm good.

Carry on.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I don't know what MrMagoo is going on about, but Nights was the only game to make use of an analog stick on Sega Saturn. It came packed in and was unplayable without it.

Nintendo 64 was the first console to make analog a standard for all of its games. When Analog and Rumble Feedback were a smashing success, Sony remade their original controller and created the Dual Shock complete with rumble and dual analog.

So yes, Sega was the first to put out an analog controller, but by no means was it a standard. Nintendo made it a standard and Sony played catch up, further cementing the standard. I would say Dual Shock was certainly an improvement, but I have my doubts about Move due to its reliance on a camera, which relies on a light source.

Eyetoy and the few DSi games that make use of the camera are extremely sensitive about light, so much I really don't want to bother with them. That mo-cap ball on the end of the Move might help alleviate that issue, but not so much when they star having you kick and such.

Still its kinda funny that MS and Sony were totally playing to the casual crowd at this show and Nintendo kicked out all the big core franchises and the 3DS was even larger series of surprises.

I may not need another console if I get 3DS. I would, however, like to know the most important details - battery life and retail price.

[Feba]

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Excuse or not, the demo of the game was lackluster, it came off as clunky and of poor quality.

Yes, the demo was lackluster. That doesn't mean the entire conference is immediately shit.

I am sorry but mario sports, goldeneye 2010, and Wii party just didn't appeal to me.

I understand this. Much of the lineup didn't appeal to me either. But the problem here is that you missed something in the huge fucking lineup Nintendo has. They literally just announced a few dozen games. If there's not at least a couple that make you squeal with anticipation, you should probably just find a different hobby. There's literally no way to enjoy video games and not want one of those titles. Hell, there's very little chance you could play video games for any amount of time without falling in love with one of the franchises they're bringing-- not just the Nintendo franchises, but MGS, FF, DQ, KH, RE/BH, etc. etc.

(also what part of sega saturn having one before nintendo did you not understand reading comprehension what?)

I will respond to this while pretending it is written with a syntax that makes it English.

You did not have that part of your post in when I commented. If you don't like people not replying to edits, make a new post instead of expecting me to meticulously check the thread after I post just to make sure you don't go in and change things around.

On the Saturn, your point isn't completely invalid, but the Saturn was clearly not who Sony was competing with by the time they released analog joysticks; and I would argue that the Saturn stiq is pretty different from the more nubby ones we have now, thanks to the N64; and I don't think they were standard, but then it's been a very long time since I've seen anything Saturn. And yes, I know the PSX had an intermediate phase where the controllers had joysticks but were not yet Dualshocks; the PlayStation was my first console. It was a joke about how Sony was yet again playing catch up to Nintendo's controllers, this time in response to the 64's Rumble Pak.

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I would, however, like to know the most important details - battery life and retail price.

This, plus multimedia capabilities, whether batteries will be easily purchasable and swappable (one of the great things about PSP, I have like 24 hours of battery life), and if they'll have a PSN-style full game download service.

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Wyaddaminnit, wasn't Nintendo scheduled to talk about the Vitality Sensor?

Are they going to do that later this week? Because I really want to see what they're doing with that.

[MrMageo]

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I would, however, like to know the most important details - battery life and retail price.
This, plus multimedia capabilities, whether batteries will be easily purchasable and swappable (one of the great things about PSP, I have like 24 hours of battery life), and if they'll have a PSN-style full game download service.

As long as they don't gay it up like Sony did with one of the later batches of PSP with the USB charge mode, that couldn't be charged in USB charge mode while playing a game. But then again as far as I saw the 3DS has no reason to connect to a computer so USB charging would be redundant.

I like the premise of the 3DS don't get me wrong, as much as I like the premise of the 3D from sony, but frankly I am just sick of the 3D hard on right now. Everything is 3D this or 3D that. Its like those crazy comics from the 70's are back in action requiring us all to rush out and buy some RED and GREEN paper shades.

As an owner of a Wii and a PS3 im excited for the days/weeks/months of gaming I have coming to me. But in this particular case the fan boy shit coming from Feba and BBQ makes me sad. Both companies announced some good stuff, but IMO Sony stole the limelight by announcing more stuff for its system, you know the thing that is 100% directly under their control.

I mean I would love if my Wii could do half the shit that my PS3 can, I was just upset that Nintendo (as in Nintendo not its 3rd party suppliers) didn't have much to talk about in regards to it. Where as Sony (as in sony not its 3rd party suppliers) did. What I took from the whole thing is that Nintendo is content with where they are (top spot in current console gen war is not bad) but to me the lack of looking forward and continued reliance on a gimmick that all systems now have in some form or another (even though they have known for a while Sony and MS were developing motion stuff), with out bringing anything new to the table (other than a new gimmick in a hand held) disappointed me as a fan and long time Nintendo consumer. Sony on the other hand, call it catch up or w/e you want, has now taken Nintendo's gimmick and put it on a superior platform, an offered some nice demos to the use of its new stuff. Lastly XBOX well I dunno who was in charge of their program this year, but my god, it was a terrible conference, would not watch again.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Actually, if this was a $300 unit, I could actually see myself still going for it, but I expect Nintendo to surprise me on price because I don't think they'll go the way of Sony on this. I do expect this to cost as least as much as a Wii.

And you know, Feba, I never thought about grabbing another battery or two for my PSP. I just might do that since I seem to be playing it into the ground lately.

I do have to say PSP has had a surprisingly good year and its nice that its continuing. But I think its pretty much over after the wave of games theyed show off get out, though. I mean, damn, how did Kojima even keep a straight face with Peace Walker when he had that 3DS tech in his hands. He must have died a little on the inside after all the corners he had to cut for Peace Walker.

Don't get me wrong, Peace Walker is an amazing showcase for the PSP and I'd even say worth the purchase of a PSP (of course I say this with Persona 3 Portable and KH:BBS not too far off), but part of me wishes he had waited to do this for 3DS.

I like the premise of the 3DS don't get me wrong, as much as I like the premise of the 3D from sony, but frankly I am just sick of the 3D hard on right now. Everything is 3D this or 3D that. Its like those crazy comics from the 70's are back in action requiring us all to rush out and buy some RED and GREEN paper shades.

I'm not exactly big for the 3D part of 3DS, but I think the difference is Nintendo isn't forcing it on people and it doesn't require the glasses. You can turn the effect off with a slider feature implemented in the system. Impressions from the floor say the effect feels natural, though. You're not focusing too hard and not being made to wear glasses.

With Sony 3D, you're being made to wear glasses and the glasses used don't come cheap. And they want you do use move with the glasses. Its a bit much to me. Not too practical. I'm sure the effect is optional there, too, its just the glasses thing holding it back I think.