Dante's Inferno

[Feba]

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See: The Passion of the Christ

Which was a huge success.

People don't care so much about religious fiction because of violence (Passion was incredibly successfully financially, despite an R-rating) or proselytism as much as it being poorly done. Left Behind did try its damnedest to say "BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU IF YOU DO NOT REPENT NOW"; not through the characters, not through the plot, but by writers using the characters as mouthpieces and forcing the plot to act in ways that make absolutely no sense merely to conform to scripture.

Da Vinci Code and Assassin's Creed clearly show that there is not only is there plenty of support for works that blaspheme, but that they can be financially successful. There is very little reason for why there are tons of Romance of the Three Kingdom franchises in the East, but very few franchises in the West that use our epics for not just vague imagery but the entire plot.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Again, Feba, its because the West is bathed in political correctness. The reason the Three Kingdoms thing goes over so well in places like China is, well, its China. They do it to foster national pride so their communist government can blind them to other historical and modern truths - like Tibet or Tianamen Square. There won't be kung-fu movies about those things, you can't even web search them over there.

I would love to see a game centered around the Civil War, perhaps even one themed about guarding the nature of the Underground Railroad. But the best it will get is re-enacting one of the battles in an RTS - and that rarely ever happens. For the story to work, black people have to be slaves. That gets people flustered in itself.

Resident Evil 5 anyone? It was all OK before Chris Redfield went to Africa, then people had problems.

We don't get any Revolutionary War sims, mainly because we'd be capping redcoats. That actually explains itself - its not so much because they're british than it is red is not the best color for hiding, you'd be fucked in multiplayer. Plus reloading rifles was rather involved and one shot was enough to end you or blow a limb clean off. People wouldn't care for those things.

Red Dead Redemption should be fun, though, not often we see a cowboy game on a GTA scale.

[Taskmage]

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We don't get any Revolutionary War sims, mainly because we'd be capping redcoats. That actually explains itself - its not so much because they're british than it is red is not the best color for hiding, you'd be fucked in multiplayer. Plus reloading rifles was rather involved and one shot was enough to end you or blow a limb clean off. People wouldn't care for those things.

Empire: Total War. Though I only know this because it was slashed to $10 on Steam this weekend.

[Firewind]

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Yeah, the violence was a little over-the-top and the Judas angle had some artistic liberties taken, but otherwise I thought it was a good adaptation, especially for keeping things story in the language of that time. Yet people whined anyway because the violence and natural language used to tell the story made them uncomfortable.

Actually the movie was done in Church Latin, a language that didn't even exist at the time, not Hebrew or Greek which would have been spoken in the area at the time.

We don't get any Revolutionary War sims, mainly because we'd be capping redcoats. That actually explains itself - its not so much because they're british than it is red is not the best color for hiding, you'd be fucked in multiplayer. Plus reloading rifles was rather involved and one shot was enough to end you or blow a limb clean off. People wouldn't care for those things.

Actually the uniforms were brightly coloured because smokeless cartridges had not been invented so soldiers wore bright colours so they could, you know, make sure that they aren't firing on thier own side through all the smoke...It was around the time that smokeless cartridges were invented that armies started wearing colours to help them to hide.

[Malacite]

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Lol all this reminds of an argument a friend of mine got into with a real idiot @ Gamestop one day. Basically the dumb ass was saying that there are no Christian "extremists" and that Christians have never done anything crazy like the Islamic terrorists have....



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[Solymir]

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Just off the top of my head, the biggest I can remember are the crusades. Was there anything else in history that would be a larger example?

[hexx]

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Just off the top of my head, the biggest I can remember are the crusades. Was there anything else in history that would be a larger example?

Multiple* crusades LOL there wasn't JUST one attempt at "reclaiming" the holy land.

[Malacite]

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Do you even need another example? The 1st (I think it was the 1st, might have been the 3rd but all were horrible) was nothing more than a genocidal campaign against the Arabs. Where as Saladin actually spared Christian lives when they took Jerusalem, King Richard's men simply slaughtered the Arabs; Soldiers and Civilians alike. All in the name of "God".

Oh but according to the aforementioned dumb ass, that was all perfectly OK >_>


... and then Bush had to go and say that the U.S. Army would be greeted as "Liberators, just like the Crusaders" quite possibly the dumbest and worst thing he's ever said. They're still pissed off about the Crusades you retard and one of the main reasons there is terrorist support is because you can not have a Christian Army on Muslim Holy Lands!



Anyway, back on topic... there's DLC coming for the game next month, including some kind of prequel level or two. I was thinking of trading it in along with a few other titles to get MAG for free, but I'll have to wait and see if this DLC is any good (I'm getting it for free since I got the Divine Edition)

[hexx]

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I'm gonna wait a while on DI. Played the demo and it was good, but from what I read the game gets kinda stupid and repetitive towards the end. I'll wait to see what you all say in regards to it LOL

[Feba]

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Again, Feba, its because the West is bathed in political correctness.

No, it's fucking not. Look at the provided examples. Look at pretty much all real-world FPS games-- they're mostly either WWII (which yes, is mostly fighting Nazis, but some have really shown the darker sides of all parties to the conflict, Medal of Honor being a good example), or modern anti-terrorist operations (Kuma/War being probably the most controversial thing here, as well as America's Army.)

Actually the movie was done in Church Latin

It was done in Aramaic, Latin, and Hebrew. C'mon guys, if you don't remember the talk of Aramaic when it was released, at least check the beginning of the wikipedia article.

For the story to work, black people have to be slaves. That gets people flustered in itself.

Um, not enough to not produce them. You'd get more Southerners complaining about being represented poorly than anyone caring about the slavery element. This is like saying "Genocide = Bad, and Schindler's List uses Genocide, therefore Schindler's List = Bad". Nobody actually thinks like that.

... and then Bush had to go and say that the U.S. Army would be greeted as "Liberators, just like the Crusaders"

No hits on google for multiple permutations of this phrasing = Bush 43 almost certainly did not say it. Put up or shut up, Mal.

[hexx]

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Originally Posted by Malacite
... and then Bush had to go and say that the U.S. Army would be greeted as "Liberators, just like the Crusaders"

No hits on google for multiple permutations of this phrasing = Bush 43 almost certainly did not say it. Put up or shut up, Mal.

Bush DID say we would be greeted as liberators when the USA invaded Iraq, but I don't recall him saying the "..just like the Crusaders" part.

[Feba]

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but I don't recall him saying the "..just like the Crusaders" part.

Which is obviously the part I was talking about. Sort of like how if someone said "George W. Bush was a great president, just like the crippled guy", one of those parts would draw a little bit more criticism.

[Malacite]

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George W. Bush and the Crusades

Only thing I could dig up. I saw it on CNN some time ago, and as I recall someone immediately whispered in his hear to correct him. Was probably just a lapse of judgment, though a very bad one.

[Feba]

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Only thing I could dig up.

Well, that looks like a very reliable source, but it still has practically nothing to do with your claim.

[Skoal]

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Recap of this thread:

Dante's Inferno= Crusades+Passion of the Christ+ George Bush+ Revolutionary Sims+ CNN+ Nazis-Slaves?

Is that about it? How long is this game?