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  • #16
    Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

    I need to finish Bayonetta so I can get back to disliking Sega
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    • #17
      Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

      Originally posted by Armando View Post
      It's from the first movie.
      That was my next guess. Epic Simon pose is epic. I'm going to try to watch the first movie tonight when I get a chance, or at least over the weekend.
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      • #18
        Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

        Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
        Were it just Sonic Sega was mishandling, though, I might have given them the benefit of a doubt, but since they've botched so many other things I've liked, they're usually on thin ice.
        While I largely agree with this, SEGA has been publishing some rather high profile games of late as well (Valkyria, Armored Core, Bayonetta [ugh] and now AVP) so while I fucking loathe Sonic Team for it's epic failure, the company as a whole seems to be doing all right.

        That said, where's our HD Shenmue remake SEGA? Guarantee that will sell like a bajillion copies. Or even a new game entirely, just give us more Shenmue on 360 & PS3. Maaaaaybe anothers Skies game too? Finally, Wii Panzer Dragoon - You know you want it. Well either Wii or PS3 for Six-Axis, unless they decide to wait for Natal etc.
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        • #19
          Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

          Sonic The Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 Video Game, Debut Trailer HD | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com
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          • #20
            Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

            Speaking of Bayonetta, it's no freaking wonder I've been seeing that game as a bad DMC clone from day one; it was made by the creator of DMC! lol.

            I was being totally serious before though, give us more Shenmue already.
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            • #21
              Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

              Originally posted by Malacite View Post
              That said, where's our HD Shenmue remake SEGA?
              HD Shenmue is financial suicide. The gamers that didn't want a non-action game the first two times aren't going to want it now, the people that already played it will largely ignore it (out of not wanting to play the same game twice, or being angry at Sega for not releasing Shenmue 3), the people that do buy it will largely be people who don't even want the game itself, but just want SEGA to make more Shenmue. The best hope is something like a Shenmue Prime Trilogy on Wii. update the first two game's content (biggest importance is giving lower difficulty settings for QTEs and fight sequences), add some new content (Chapter 2 and the remainder of the story), market it well and pray that casuals can get into it. Would GTA graphics in Shenmue be sweet? Yes. Would redone voices to not be shit be great? Of course. But aiming for the bare minimum is the best way for SEGA to ever consider actually doing it. And right now, it makes far more sense for Sega to try to market closure to the fans and a new form of storytelling to people who don't play games than it does for Sega to release the same game that already failed and hope people go after it now.

              Keep in mind that Shenmue was mindblowingly beautiful when it was released. This took a huge budget to pull off. If SEGA were to try to make something similarly top-tier today, they would fail hard.

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              • #22
                Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                Hmm...
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                • #23
                  Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                  Originally posted by Callisto View Post
                  I need to finish Bayonetta so I can get back to disliking Sega
                  Sega just publishes for them, really. You can still hate them since its not really their game at all. Only had Sega had in Baynetta was the PS3 port, which Platinum games had no involvement in and that's why its not as good as the 360 version.

                  I'm getting Infinite Space in March, which is a Platinum/Nude Maker collaboration that went over rather well in Japan. Think Evangelion meets Star Trek meets turn-based RPG.

                  You can have a fleet of ships, meet and assign hundreds of people to those ships and customize those ships right down to where you want the sick back and who you want working there.

                  Its probably the only other DS game out there besides Pokemon that will have a guide that competes with an Elder Scrolls game.

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                  On the subject of Shenmue, it was recently stated by Sega that they are interested in completing the Shenmue trilogy, they're just concerned about the financial investment involved. So they're basically looking for someone that will pick up the tab.

                  MS picked up the tab on porting Shenmue, touching up the graphics with obnoxious bloom filters and voice recording (english translation was already done for the PAL version on Dreamcast). It bombed, so I don't see MS sticking out their necks to do it again. MS isn't all about doing the art house games.

                  So that leaves it between Sony and Nintendo, really. Nintendo has the money to burn, though, I don't think it would be wise for Sony to add another bomb to thier list. Heavy Rain will be their Shenmue-style failure.
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                  • #24
                    Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                    Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                    Heavy Rain will be their Shenmue-style failure.
                    DIAF, Heavy Rain is looking awesome.
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                    • #25
                      Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                      Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                      DIAF, Heavy Rain is looking awesome.
                      Other awesome games:

                      Ico
                      Indigo Prophecy (Fahrenheit)
                      Shenmue
                      Beyond Good & Evil
                      Okami


                      Seeing a pattern here?

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                      • #26
                        Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                        Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                        DIAF, Heavy Rain is looking awesome.
                        I liked it better when Space Ace and Dragon's Lair did it. Don Bleuth drew more convincing people than the zombies QD cooks up.

                        Originally posted by Feba
                        Other awesome games:

                        Ico
                        Indigo Prophecy (Fahrenheit)
                        Shenmue
                        Beyond Good & Evil
                        Okami


                        Seeing a pattern here?
                        One of this things is not like the other, though.

                        Indigo Prophecy sucked, the other games all maintain artistic credibility their creators can be proud of.

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                        • #27
                          Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                          Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                          Indigo Prophecy sucked
                          Well, towards the end, yes, but there were just as many embarrassing blemishes on Shenmue. Shenmue's story didn't dive off a cliff, but let's face it, the voice acting was constantly bad, the plot is a completely straight forward "Hero wants revenge for his father's death" story (so far, at least. Shenmue 3 could be very interesting, based on Shenmue 2's ending, if we ever see it), and do you know where sailors hang out?

                          BG&E, Okami, and Ico had high quality throughout, although there were parts of BG&E that seemed cheap compared to the rest to me they were still well produced. But you have to admit that Indigo Prophecy failed because people simply didn't care, not because there were people that wanted it to be good, and then decided they didn't want a game with a shitty third act.

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                          • #28
                            Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                            From an aethsetics point of view the game looks very nice. But I'm a bit weary of the episodic factor. I mean, there has been some great games that have been released episodically, but they are a completely different genre of game.

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                            • #29
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                              [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbW3HiR-I4"]YouTube- Rant: Sonic 4 Reactions[/ame]

                              where's Tails?

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                              • #30
                                Re: And Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is...

                                Originally posted by jenova_9 View Post
                                where's Tails?
                                Who?

                                What game were those clips from, was that SA1?
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