Square Enix cut a game's worth of content from Final Fantasy XIII

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I think some people here just aren't grasping the process of creation here. Feba nailed it perfectly.

Putting out a creative work isn't like making a forum or blog post where you just say anything you want in a-stream-of-consciousness kind of way. Sometimes you run the risk of getting too broad on some aspects while too narrow on others. A production asks that you put out something comprehensive and accessible.

Too much content and you might overwhelm the viewer, reader or player and make things hard to follow.

[Malacite]

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If you can cut a 'games worth of content' and still be left with a whole game, you had more random shit then most people want.

Ever since FF7 they've been tossing in hours & hours worth of side quests.

[Feba]

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Too much content and you might overwhelm the viewer, reader or player and make things hard to follow.

And there's the reverse of this, too: if you add in too much and things are still easy to follow, chances are you're boring your audience.

Ever since FF7 they've been tossing in hours & hours worth of side quests.

There's a big difference between random shiat and side quests. Side quests done well (FF12) are an excellent addition to a game. Side quests done poorly, half-assed, rushed, and so on don't help, and are usually a detraction (FF10). It's better to leave people wanting more than to leave them wanting less.

[Maju]

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Turns out FFXIII actually is a pile of crap and the Japanese fans hate it. Famitsu also only gave it 39/40 despite massive bribery attempts for a 40/40 by SE.

Sankaku Complex has the story (site NSFW!): Final Fantasy XIII – Zetsubou Shita! “It’s Just a Long Tunnel!” | Sankaku Complex

[Feba]

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Turns out FFXIII actually is a pile of crap and the Japanese fans hate it.

There's a big difference between "pile of crap and the Japanese fans hate it" and "Some people think it's linearity is a major detraction."

Learn to separate sensationalism (which is definitely what sancon is) from accuracy and objectivity.

[Mog]

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I love how the game isn't even released in the US yet and people are forming opinions about it. lol

Y said FFXIII sucks, so it has to suck. Guess I'm not buying it now.

[Mhurron]

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Ever since FF7 they've been tossing in hours & hours worth of side quests.

I haven't seen a FF that had enough separate content that it could be described a whole other game. They either are not exaggerating and removed a whole lot of garbage or, as others have said, they are exaggerating and really only removed a few dungeons and ideas that were not completed.

[Balfree]

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Final Fantasy XIII series to last ten years

Does this mean we'll be waiting until at least 2017 for Final Fantasy XIV? It's unclear, but regardless, we'll have to play nicely with XIII's characters for many years to come.

When did the Joystiq writers become oblivious to what the hell they're talking about?

[Mog]

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Final Fantasy XIII series to last ten years



When did the Joystiq writers become oblivious to what the hell they're talking about?

That article is 3 years old. >_>;

[Pwnagraphic]

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Yep.. it's a shame.

I get annoyed with joystiq sometimes. They don't know wtf they're talking about sometimes. They're the ones who started the FFXIV beta is PC only rumor.

[hexx]

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Leave it to Mal to blow shit outta proportion. I honestly cant say anything that hasn't been said by the more intelligent denizens of DiV, so I'll just say this: the game hasn't come out yet, if you are skeptic about it, borrow, rent, gamefly, or steal it for fucks sake, and quit tryin to make a big stink out of it all. If in the end it really does turn out to be a shitty game, oh well, but if it doesn't (and we all know SE's track record) then all the better.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: Square Enix cut a game's worth of content from Final Fantasy XIII

Turns out FFXIII actually is a pile of crap and the Japanese fans hate it. Famitsu also only gave it 39/40 despite massive bribery attempts for a 40/40 by SE.

Sankaku Complex has the story (site NSFW!): Final Fantasy XIII – Zetsubou Shita! “It’s Just a Long Tunnel!” | Sankaku Complex

But see, people say that about every new Final Fantasy that's come out since FFVII.

Back when it was just Final Fantasy, FFII (Actually IV) and FF III (actually VI) in the US, we didn't have too much else to go on. Games did not saturate this market the way they do now. There also wasn't an internet to drag things into hyperbole and make a vocal minority sound like a majority.

The Japanese said the exact same thing about FFXII initially that they're saying about FFXIII now. Four years later, they're holding FFXII in high regards.

All goes back to people being afraid or uncomfortable with things they don't understand. FFXIII is different, plays by different rules. People don't understand it yet.

In FFXII, people went right out and tried to hack up the first T-Rex they saw with Vaan. I had played enough MMOs in my time to know that T-Rex was a friendly and likely one that would knock the shit out of me if I tried to attack it.

So I didn't. I saw what FFXII was doing and understood it right away, not because FFXI taught me that, but that the EverQuest con system (likely derived from Ultima Online) taught me that. Green means it means no harm, so don't smack it with a sword.

And yet people complained and said FFXII was confusing and needlessly difficult... until they learned to play it. Now the Japanese love that game. How quickly we forget that.

And the same is true with FFX, FFX-2, FFIX and FFVIII - people's views on these games have become less extreme than when they were first released. Nothing about these games have change, but people have grown up a little since them and many now see what they were trying to do and realize it was their overblown expectations of another FFVI or FFVII that ruined it for them. In other words, they ruined those games for themselves.

Same thing happened for me with Shadow of the Colossus. I wanted more Ico and this game wasn't even close to being that. Its a very different game with a similar visual style. Now I'm playing it with a bit more of a fresh perspective five years later and I'm looking more at what the game itself was trying to do rather than expecting Ico from it.

Its still a bit to sparse on platforming and there could have been some combat in-between tracking down colossi, but I'm enjoying it for what it is otherwise. Time gives people a bit more perspective.

[Mezlo]

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FFX-2 sucked.

[Mhurron]

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FFX-2 sucked.

No it didn't.

[Cheezeman3000]

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FFX-2 sucked.

FFX-2 was fun. The underlying story rocked for the most part. The presentation of said story sucked.