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  • #76
    Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

    How does the game suffer from having so many people on the field at once? People who played Domination said it was hectic, crazy and exciting. The game never had any issues with all those people being on the field at the same time and the servers worked fine the entire time I was playing the open beta, so how was the number a detriment? That's totally ignoring the smaller number game types btw.

    And every faction has the same exact voices? When I joined Valor all the voices sounded either American, British or Spanish, to reflect the three countries that made up the army. I would assume the other teams would have something similar. It's probably the same with all the skin tones/faces as well.

    S.V.E.R. having tons of modified AKs reflect their status as a rag tag, poorly funded group. AKs are cheap and wide spread, used by tons of russian, asian and middle eastern military groups and an excellent base for more improved weapons. Raven and Valor have much different weapon load-outs to reflect their personal preferences as well. But their personal weapon choices all share similar themes and concepts to help differentiate the factions. I don't know how many weapons S.V.E.R. had, but Valor had the option to unlock and use at least a dozen different guns just in the Beta. Chances are the other sides had similar upgrade trees so right there you have 32 different guns.

    While I'm not saying this is the greatest game ever, a lot of those complaints just seem kinda silly seeing as we only got to play around in what amounts to be a tiny demo. But even then we could still use plenty of different weapons and run around in fairly large battlefields to achieve multiple goals. This game delivered exactly what it promised so far and seems like it'll be really fun to get into to me at least.
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    • #77
      Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

      Originally posted by Ziero View Post
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      • #78
        Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

        I got a nasty habit of typin how I talk >.>
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        • #79
          Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

          Originally posted by DakAttack View Post
          It's a game built around the Battlefield model that doesn't do it any justice. What's the point of 256 players in a single battle when the rest of the game suffers for it? Sixty-four is just fine. You have ten voices to choose from, and ten skin tones, when there's three different factions in the game who should speak three different languages. Each faction's guns and equipment all look exactly the same. Why is every S.V.E.R. gun a modified AK47? The skill tree is pitiful and makes me want to cut myself. Game-play is worse. I don't even want to continue writing this. The point is Battlefield did it already and they did it better.
          I think you're being a little too harsh. And how exactly does the game suffer from 256 people? I really don't get what you mean by that. I LOVE the concept and the feel of MAG, I just don't find it as captivating as MW2 is. Despite everything I hate about that game, it still seems to have that unexplainable aspect that keeps you coming back for more.

          That's what MAG lacks. But I'm hoping Zipper will update and adjust the game accordingly over time, as I really want to see this game succeed.

          As far as the skills and crap goes I would have much preferred something closer to MW2 where you level up & assign different perks. I really hate how MAG more or less forces you to specialize in 1 kind of gun (of which there are only 2 or 3 guns total) for pretty much your career. There's a little too much focus on the objectives. They need to balance it out a little more, and for the love of crap give us more vehicles to play with.

          I'm going to try out Bad Company 2 if nothing else because you get to actually fly a helicopter around the battlefield.
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          • #80
            Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

            Zipper said from the very beginning they created this game, from the ground up, with the idea that it will be playable by 256 players at once. I get the feeling that that was their top priority at the expense of every other aspect. The voices and skin tones are all the same, no matter which faction you join. On top of that, the only time I ever heard them is when somebody bled out and whined like a little girl. The skill tree is completely unimaginative, unimpressive, and uninspired. You're spending few points on the things you want and way too many on filler. Things become redundant, obsolete, etc. I've said it many times already, and there's great examples out there for them to look at. The maps don't reflect any kind of insight into how an objective-based game should ebb and flow. I feel like I'm playing MW all over again. During Sabotage, Raven's A and B have stairs that lead directly to the top level of the base from the attacker's side. Why? How does this make any sense? Valor's A and B aren't any better, they're basically wide open spaces with a few obstructions to maneuver around.S.V.E.R.'s base provides distinct disadvantages to any attacker. First, the base itself can easily be fortified from within the base. There are several small holes in the aluminum plating covering the walkways that can easily be shot through. One base has only a single staircase up to the objective on the attacker's side, and a small walkway from the side that's open to both attackers and defenders. The other is turned so that no staircase is facing either side. Second, both bases are backed by walls where players can easily snipe. Spawning at either A or B is pretty much like attacking a wall.

            You know what else? I can't stand the people who play this game. You can hear them over the mic, and all they do is mouth off about crap they know nothing about. They tear down other games while playing, and they make asinine predictions about BFBC2. They've never played the game, but they're confident everybody who plays will jump in vehicles and drive around the map like retards. Okay, I had never seen that before i played MAG and every APC driver drove around with no regard to the objective. They're fanboys to the highest degree. and most ignorant and immature you'll ever know. I know fanboys who are at least worth a decent discussion, but these idiots don't understand fact/fiction, how to argue, how not to make conflicting statements in the same post/thread/whatever. Have these guys ever watched The Wave?

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            So there you have it. Why I'm not buying this game.

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            • #81
              Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

              I have to say that the snipers are really annoying. I know you can say that about a lot of online shooters but it just seems they are more so in this game. Another thing that really annoys me are the whiners. A couple days ago I was Platoon leader and there was this guy in another faction whining his asinine head off about a sniper always killing him...

              Idiot (with high whiney nasel voice, must have not gone through puberty yet): O...M..G...a sniper just got me! You've got to be kidding me! I just spawned and started running up the hill to the objective and BAM! DEAD! God damn it this is f**king stupid!

              2 minutes later...

              Idiot: W T F!! Seriously!? A sniper just got me again! This is f**king ridiculous! I HATE snipers! I swear to god I'm going to f**king kill him! If this keeps happening I'm going to quit! This is just bullshit!! I can't believe these asswipes play like this!

              1 minute later...

              Idiot: Ok I'm on my way guys! (Insert Jaws theme music here...) GOD DAMN IT!!! WTF!! OMG!!! Another sniper just got me! I'm gonna find him and rape his ass with the barrel of my rifle!! God damn m****r f***er!!! This is terrible I can't play this game at all they just keep sniping me over and over and over. I'm gonna quit! QUIT!!

              and another minute later as I'm searching for an ice pick to poke my ear drums out with...

              Idiot: F**K HIM!!! JUST F**K HIM!! Why do I keep getting killed by f**king snipers!?? This is pissing me the f**k off! I'm going to find this m****r f***er and kill him over and over! (Insert ranting until the entire round is over...........and yes, he dies 2 more times from snipers during that time...)
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              • #82
                Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                I always loved hunting snipers. It's easiest when you have campers who are too stupid to move. They kill you once and when you repop you can just sneak up behind them and wipe em out. I took out many a sniper by crawling around the battle, coming up the side, and shoving my giant machine gun down their throats.

                Originally posted by DakAttack View Post
                You can hear them over the mic, and all they do is mouth off about crap they know nothing about.
                These guys are in every online game. And nothing you can say can prove otherwise.
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                • #83
                  Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                  Originally posted by DakAttack View Post
                  they're confident everybody who plays will jump in vehicles and drive around the map like retards.
                  Nah that's just the guys who jump in the helicopter and don't know how to fly it. You'll see the heli take off and immediately take a nose dive into the ground lol. I know I can't fly them so I just stay away, but other than that I can't remember seeing anybody do that, and I used to play Bad Company 1 alot. It was always satisfying to take out a vehicle with C4 or with the sniper goggles (JDAM?) that had been terrorizing my allies.
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                  • #84
                    Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                    Originally posted by Ziero View Post
                    I always loved hunting snipers. It's easiest when you have campers who are too stupid to move. They kill you once and when you repop you can just sneak up behind them and wipe em out. I took out many a sniper by crawling around the battle, coming up the side, and shoving my giant machine gun down their throats.
                    It depends on the location. That's actually one thing I really, really hated about MAG is that you'd think in a team based game, especially in Domination, there would be key locations for snipers take up where you absolutely can not get the drop on them. Be either because of the map itself or team mates backing you. You shouldn't really have to constantly move in MAG as a Sniper since there's no retarded kill cam like in MW2.

                    And let's be honest, if you keep dieing to a Sniper in the same freaking spot FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TAKE A DIFFERENT ROUTE!!! Or at least toss smoke grenades!
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                    • #85
                      Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                      Even in real life if a Sniper doesn't get his ass up and find a new spot after every shot, he's not gonna last long. If someone doesn't circle around behind you to kill you then another sniper will just shoot you themselves. I once shot a sniper who I couldn't even see, just by watching where he was shooting from. Just followed his bullets to the same spot since he didn't move at all, and got a nice clean headshot on him. If you don't move, you won't last long.
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                      • #86
                        Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                        That's actually one thing I really, really hated about MAG is that you'd think in a team based game, especially in Domination, there would be key locations for snipers take up where you absolutely can not get the drop on them. Be either because of the map itself or team mates backing you. You shouldn't really have to constantly move in MAG as a Sniper since there's no retarded kill cam like in MW2.
                        I don't play the game but this sounds asinine. You basically want to be god and kill people with no risk of ever getting killed yourself?

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                        • #87
                          Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                          The general consensus with MAG players is that most snipers are fairly useless. Being an objective based game, they see someone who just sits and camps the entire game as a waste of space since they're not going after the objective. People also hate Sniper Squad leaders since it's a waste of the aura buffs.

                          Snipers aren't all that great in MAG, a good squad only needs one at most, and that's mainly to be the eyes for the team. Smaller machine guns are apparently just as accurate, even at long range (which is something that needs to be nerfed), but far more useful when you're fighting for control of an objective.
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                          • #88
                            Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                            People who buy MAG will soon learn how useless snipers are to the team. MAG beta was extremely fun. We won our first Domination match as Attackers on the last day! epic beyond any other shooter before it. Even among the 256 players you never see, it doesn't change the fact everyone is directly affecting the same battle you are in, and there is freedom to go and help out the other platoons if you wanted to (it may sound irrational but it is possible to win some different strategies. Like assisting a platoon to complete the first part so they can get to the final objectives faster to help hold bases and apply enough damage before time expires.)

                            Yet alas, I will not buy the full version because AVP is so close to release in just a couple weeks.

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                            • #89
                              Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                              Originally posted by Ziero View Post
                              Even in real life if a Sniper doesn't get his ass up and find a new spot after every shot, he's not gonna last long. If someone doesn't circle around behind you to kill you then another sniper will just shoot you themselves. I once shot a sniper who I couldn't even see, just by watching where he was shooting from. Just followed his bullets to the same spot since he didn't move at all, and got a nice clean headshot on him. If you don't move, you won't last long.
                              Head-shots are too easy. They're not as special as they are in other games.

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                              • #90
                                Re: MAG ! Super awesomest game of the year ever ???

                                They're special when you can't see the guy's head and only go by the trail of his bullet.
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