New SuperMBWii might get a lot of sales?

[Tickmeoff]

Re: New SuperMBWii might get a lot of sales?

2-D is great for some things.

but games like FFXIII and FFXIV and other games are still way better

Please die in a fire. These games aren't released yet. You have no idea if they'll be amazing or absolute shit, and either way they wont be good because they have pretty graphics.

Bold words, you do realize that most RPG mechanics never require 3D, right? Many of them could be just as 2D as they could be 3D. You could take everything about FFVII and make a 2D game of it and not lose a thing in terms of gameplay.

I actually kind of fantasize about doing this. I've always wanted to somehow remake Legend of Dragoon as an SNES title. If I actually knew where to even begin on something like that I would make it a personal project and eventually see it to completion (or a cease and desist order).

[Malacite]

Re: New SuperMBWii might get a lot of sales?

but games like FFXIII and FFXIV and other games are still way better and can only be enjoyed in 3-D.

Woah, I wouldn't go that far. That's like saying Symphony of the Night could only be good in 3D, and I'd have to slap the shit out of anyone for even thinking that.

And I never said New Super Mario Bros Wii is a bad game, just that I'd rather rent it for some light fun as opposed to buying it as I don't see it as something I'll want to play over & over again. I dunno, Mario just doesn't captivate me in the same way Link, Samus, Mega Man or the Belmonts do O. o

[jenova_9]

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Woah, I wouldn't go that far. That's like saying Symphony of the Night could only be good in 3D, and I'd have to slap the shit out of anyone for even thinking that.

And I never said New Super Mario Bros Wii is a bad game, just that I'd rather rent it for some light fun as opposed to buying it as I don't see it as something I'll want to play over & over again. I dunno, Mario just doesn't captivate me in the same way Link, Samus, Mega Man or the Belmonts do O. o

I didn't say 2-D games liek SOTN are better in 3-D.

I'm saying games like FFXIII and FFXIV are better enjoyed in 3-D. (same with Star Fox)

Something that already has a 2-D style that works like Megaman, Mario, Metroid, Castlevania, are better in 2-D.

Though personally, I liked the Megaman Legends 3-D games more than the 2-D ones. That's probably the only
series that got better with 3-D gameplay. Others like Metroid, I really found the Prime games to be dull compared to the
2-D ones. Maybe it was the level design/art design. Though did like how in MP3, you could press buttons while in the
Samus ship. that was really immersive.

anyways these people are real team players.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHWAfbO2KjM"]YouTube- New Super Mario Bros Wii - World 2-4[/ame]

[Malacite]

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Something that already has a 2-D style that works like Megaman, Mario, Metroid, Castlevania, are better in 2-D.

Castlevania has yet to surpass the 2-D games. As much as I loved Lament of Innocence (Curse of Darkness was apparently golden as well but I never got around to trying it) it doesn't stack up to SotN, Aria of Sorrow or Order of Ecclesia. As for the 3D Mega Mans, I'd say that X-8 was by far the best which btw, combined both 2D and 3D elements together it was phenominal (and yet I can't find a single copy anywhere I go... plenty of X7 but no X8)

[jenova_9]

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X8 was terrible, IMO. Boring robot masters, story and characters you can care less about, not so great level design.

MMX4 is still my favorite 2-D MM game.

I played Castlevania CoD, it's way better than LoI. plus better music, better story, and better boss battles. And it takes you to so many locations! I wouldn't call it the Simon's Quest of 3-D Castlevanias but it really is the best 3-D one they made. I don't think Lords of Shadow will surpass it, except in story presentation.

But ya, future 2-D Castlevanias should be more like Simon's Quest. Order of Ecclesia combined a little of that, with SOTN, and something different.
But the town theme and town atmosphere in CVII is just too cool to never bring back.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epeRFkUysFU"]YouTube- Castlevania Metal II: Simon's Quest - Town Theme[/ame]

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I just want one more Sorrow game out of the Castlevania series. Soma's just too good of a character to leave alone like they have. That or at least do a prequel where Julius seals away Dracula in 1999.

[Durahansolo]

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MMX4 is still my favorite 2-D MM game.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co6OHe4KaEc&feature=related"]YouTube- MM3 W/Lyrics EXTENDED REMIX[/ame]



That dude despises Mega Man 7 and it was one of my favorites.

[Malacite]

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I didn't play Dawn of Sorrow... IIRC, a lot of people really didn't care for the anime style that they switched to, nor the gimmicky use of the stylus for drawing glyphs.

Didn't you have to correctly draw a glyph upon beating a boss otherwise it would fully regenerate?

[Tickmeoff]

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The anime style was pretty shit, but it's not like that somehow changed the gameplay. Definitely not a reason to just write off the game entirely and not play it.

Bosses did not regain full hp if you screwed up the seal drawing, they regain maybe 15% at most. You also have time to attempt to draw it quite a few times. Throughout the entire game I only messed it up once (and it was the boss fight vs Death, so it was one of the more complex seals to draw) and I beat him again in another minute or two.