CoD:MW2

[Malacite]

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Its called the used bin. Totally legal, no piracy involved.

and I agree 100% I said in my OP that I don't approve of piracy but rather acknowledged that it's a way of sticking it to Activision.

Good luck finding any used copies any time soon though. More over I have enough console shooters, I would have liked to have gotten a new PC shooter for a change but oh well.


Also yeah, since when is CoD Infinity Ward's personal soap box for the horrors of terrorism? You want to see what these assholes to do? Just turn on the fucking news or watch a documentary (CNN's Christiana Amanpour has done several great ones)

[Icemage]

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To the people who are complaining about the airport level:

Sure, I thought it was pretty tasteless and seemed to be included more for shock value than anything else, but comparing it to gangsta rap isn't really a good analogy. The level never asks nor expects you to hurt anyone; you can technically pass the entire level just by sitting back and doing nothing, if you wait long enough for your "allies" to take all the guards down (though you'll probably get fed up in exasperation at how long it might take for them to take down the ones with riot shields).

At no point does it glorify the act or attempt to legitimize it; and the ending of the level puts an exclamation point to it.

I thought it was a boring level gameplay-wise and is completely unnecessary to forward the game plot, but now that it's on the table, it DOES provide an interesting opportunity for discussion about what sort of things might be acceptable in a video game. Why is that one level unacceptable when there are movies which depict far worse? Or books? Is there a double standard in play, and if there is, is it justified?


Icemage

[TheGrandMom]

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Why does it have to be justified? It's the artistic vision of the people who made the game. It's like an opinion, they are entitled to it and if people don't like it then DON'T BUY THE GAME. Vote with your money and if enough people do maybe they'll rethink adding material like that again.

As for the game, I am enjoying online and offline...online a tad more of course. I do have to say that I play the hell out of games like this for about a week and after that I start playing less and less. I usually end up logging on 3 or 4 times a month after that......because I'm usually engrossed in yet another game! lol

[Durahansolo]

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Alright, so I'm just looking at the XBL Leaderboard in Kills and this is rediculous lol.

Top 3:

1. Kills: 22081, Deaths: 6889, Ratio 3.20, Streak 54
2. Kills: 18933, Deaths: 430, Ratio 44.03, Streak 400
3. Kills: 17066, Deaths: 742, Ratio 23.00, Streak 394

2 and 3 are probably in a clan together since their names have a similar callsign.

That is incredible in my opinion, especially since the game has only been out since Tuesday >_>

[Malacite]

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Hax

EDIT: Just saw this over a t Joystiq;

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/11/12/fo...warfare-2-dis/

Fox & Friends gets 'fair and balanced' with Modern Warfare 2 discussion

by Ben Gilbert { Nov 12th 2009 at 5:00PM } Xbox PlayStation PC

Did you know that there's a murderer in your house ... right now? It's sitting there on your coffee table, in your Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, or PC. It's name is Modern Warfare 2, and it lets your eight-year-old child become a terrorist and kill people. Our pals at Fox & Friends got together for a "fair and balanced" discussion about the game's controversial airport scene, with the show's host Steve Doocy inviting Common Sense Media's Jim Steyer and /gamer's Jon Christensen into the fray.

Unsurprisingly, Steyer makes the oft-cited connection between violent games and real-life violence. And when Doocy gives Christensen the final word, he cobbles together an anecdote about his friend the retail manager not selling copies of Modern Warfare 2 to underage consumers, which is met with, "You bring a game into a house, nothing to stop an eight-year-old kid from becoming a terrorist and shooting people" from Doocy. So far, we haven't received any reports of the game sneaking its way into people's homes or making parents blind and unaware of their children's actions, but we'll keep our ears to the ground.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-nOCy7FfE"]YouTube- Modern Warfare 2 On Fox & Friends[/ame]

[Firewind]

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Fuck Activision and fuck this game.



On top of horribly screwing over PC gamers, you know, the loyal people who built your fucking company I'm hearing all kinds of reports about how the Reviews are too generous; there are major bugs with the MP aspect, the campaign is too short and unoriginal etc etc... the GT Review was one of the most sickening pieces of crap I've ever watched.

Activision needs to DIAF. If Infinity Ward could go solo or with a better publisher that'd be awesome but as it stands I don't think I'll be buying this. Sticking it to your loyal consumer base is just not cool.

It needed to be said.



EDIT: Holy crap are BBQ and I actually in agreement?

The main problem with the PC version is the unbearable online lag due to it being peer to peer. basically you have to pray that firstly you live near the host and secondly, the host actually has a connection good enough to, you know host a game. Really 99% of the multiplayer issues for the PC version will be solved by the use of dedicated servers and better yet the ability to see your ping to the host.

And the 0 ping advantage to the host is why I flat out refuse to play 360 games online anymore. So much BS happens because of it I simply don't have any fun playing. I don't mind losing, especially if I was beaten by someone better than me because I can get better in time anyway but being shotgunned in the face by the host who has his back to me when i stabbed him in the back 5 times on CoD4 just made me sell my 360 version and get the PS3 version instead. Dedicated Servers FTW.

And I always find myself laughing at Americans bitching about the price of video games when they don't know how lucky they are. In the UK the game costs anything from $70-100 depending on where you buy it from. We have been paying those sorts of prices for video games since the first generation of consoles were out and you don't see us constantly QQing about the prices.

Actually it would have worked out cheaper for me to import the PS3 version from the US even after shipping charges and import tax that it would for me to have bought it from a store.

[ShadowHolyFlyingDragon]

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If the 8 year old somehow got access to a copy of MW, there's greater problems at hand than a simple game's artistic expression.

Sensationalism at its finest. Go Faux

[Malacite]

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Yup, the 0 Ping advantage is just one of many reasons I refuse to play Halo 3 anymore over XBL.


And when will people get it through their heads that the people who play violent video games and then go commit serious acts of violence are mentally unbalanced!? Millions of people world wide play extremely violent games, but you don't see them going out and killing people.

There is no correlation. Yes, games do get your adrenaline going and can get you hyped up, but they aren't the reason for people killing other people. Mental health issues are.

[Yellow Mage]

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Mal sure knows sensationalism when he sees it.

[Durahansolo]

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There is no correlation.

Jack Thompson would like a word with you. (Jokes)

Jokes aside though... Every since Columbine (ZOMG THEY PLAYED DOOM BEFORE IT!), the DC Sniper, and some of the murders blamed on GTA, and Everquest Suicides... There has been an influx of people trying to say that the violence in video games makes them do these things "Because they don't know the difference between reality and virtual reality..." back when I did a report on video game violence back in college, the unbaised decisions all basically said that "If video games influence your mind that much then video games aren't the problem to begin with."

LOL @ 8 y/o kid in the article, if that kid's parents were stupid enough to buy him a M rated game 9 years too early and he does something stupid to blame it on a game then they are the ones to blame.

EDIT: Speaking of random stupidity: back when my brother was a kid, he saw a cartoon character put a flash light into an oven and the oven exploded. So what does this genius do? He shines a flashlight into the stove and my mom caught him doing it. I mean the good thing was that it wasn't a gas stove because back then flashlights were epic so the spark of turning it on in an oven with a gas leak could've exploded it.

They think killing in-game is bad, suppose they played Mario Kart instead and threw banana peels (Or turtle shells) outside of the car window at other vehicles while their parents were driving. Suppose a kid played Sonic the Hedgehog and believed they could survive under water by breathing the air bubbles (But there weren't any...).

[Malacite]

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LOL @ 8 y/o kid in the article, if that kid's parents were stupid enough to buy him a M rated game 9 years too early and he does something stupid to blame it on a game then they are the ones to blame.

QFT. I'm beyond sick of whiny, irresponsible parents who are too fucking lazy to supervise their own kids and raise them properly.

If you wouldn't let your kid go see an R rated movie, then don't buy them a Mature rated game. Video games aren't somehow magically different and thus exempt from the same scrutiny movies are; Both are forms of entertainment and both have regulatory bodies intended to keep people informed.

While I'm on the subject, I would seriously like to see any and all retail stores remove any M rated paraphernalia from the fucking children's toys section already.

I don't care if it's "just an action figure", Bungie didn't allow the production of Halo-themed pajamas and bed covers for a reason; IT'S NOT FOR KIDS, SO STOP PUTTING IT IN WITH THE KIDS STUFF!

Sorry, but this is a major pet peeve of mine and it's extremely irresponsible on the retailer's part. The parents should know better as well, but the point is it just shouldn't be there in the first place. The moment a kid sees a Master Chief action figure, he's gonna think it's cool and wanna get it and find out more about Halo that's just the way little boys are.

[DakAttack]

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I can shoot through almost any wall in the game, but when it comes to car windows I guess they're just too thick or something.

The killcam replays never show me what happened to me, they show some weird version of reality where I'm completely stationary for a few minutes or where I'm face to face with somebody and completely unaware of their presence.

And, I really don't see any point in keeping any kind of rankings. It's all luck and lag. Infinity Ward did their damnedest to remove any trace of skill.

[Pwnagraphic]

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I can shoot through almost any wall in the game, but when it comes to car windows I guess they're just too thick or something.

The killcam replays never show me what happened to me, they show some weird version of reality where I'm completely stationary for a few minutes or where I'm face to face with somebody and completely unaware of their presence.

And, I really don't see any point in keeping any kind of rankings. It's all luck and lag. Infinity Ward did their damnedest to remove any trace of skill

We must be playing 2 different games.

[DakAttack]

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We must be playing 2 different games.

Wouldn't put it past you.

[Firewind]

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I think it's even more fun when you clearly see an M203 grenade sail past you, hit the wall behind you and cause no damage. Then about half a second later you drop down dead and see the killcam grenade hit you in the face.

Or when you put half a clip into someone and see the hits register on your HUD but the killcam shows the other guy tanking just one hit then casually scoping in and taking your head off.

Or when you sneak up to someone, hit melee 3 times, nothing happens then the guy you got the drop on turns and shotguns you in the face. (I call this Gears of War syndrome)

Or when someone kills you without even turning to face you yet on the killcam they were suddenly facing you the whole time (I call this Rainbow Six Vegas syndrome since the enemies in singleplayer would do this all the time on "Realistic" mode)

Or when your grenade bounces back and forth on the ground and spins up into the air like when the havoc engine glitches out on Oblivion or Fallout 3 and stays suspended in the air for about 10 seconds. Your team usually stops, starts laughing at it over the voice/text chat then gets killed by it when it finally does go off.

Seriously, don't bother with the PC version until:

1) They bring out dedicated servers.

2) They patch some of the stupid multiplayer bugs like knives working against riot shields or grenades vanishing into the scenery and killing your teammates if friendly fire is on.

3) They balance the damn predator missiles so you need a UAV up to be able to see everyone on the other side. I hate having a nice cozy sniper nest or a well organised ambush compromised (or simply blown up by said missile) because the other side can suddenly magically see everything my team is doing without a UAV up. It's even worse in objective based games. Defending things turns into a nightmare because of AGMs, Harriers and Helicopters. Basically if someone calls in one of those and the objective is outdoors you've lost the round.

4) They make it so it's possible to shoot down those bloody helicopters and harriers. Sorry but when was the last time you saw a Pave Low tank 4 direct hits from an RPG and still be able to fly?

5) They bring out dedicated servers!