Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep TGS 09 Trailer

[Armando]

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Well, i just posted I did, so yeah.

Whoops, sorry. Don't know why I missed that.

By the way it seems you can keep unlocking entries as you do more missions and challenges. I had barely touched Missions/Challenges and after I beat the game I started doing them and got another journal entry.

[Gobo]

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Did someone say Braig? Anyone anyone? No, well too bad, here he is in the flesh, its Xigbar's Somebody, Braig

http://www.khinsider.com/images/Birt...p_2010_jan.jpg

(Linking a site hosting it, cause its Huge like X-box and I don't want to break the tables)

Translations for his stuff (Translation by krexia of KHInsider)

Braig

He's interested in Keyblades, and kidnaps Master Xehanort. Is this Xigbar's past body?

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The old form of Hollow Bastion: Radiant Garden

Is this where the vanished Master went to?

The form of Hollow Bastion, which appeared in "KH" and "KHII", before it was destroyed by darkness. Here we find men who resemble the members of Organisation XIII, as well as the Master who disappeared.

[top screenshot]

The two gate guards are...?
You might recognise the two men who stop Ventus when he tries to enter the castle...!!
Aeleus: You can't enter the castle right now.

They look just like Xaldin and Lexaeus from Organisation XIII!!
Their clothes are different, but their faces and weapons are the same. Were the two of them workmates in the past?

[middle screenshot]

This way of speaking? [Braig uses Xigbar's trademark ってハナシ when speaking]
It seems like Braig's been interested in the Keyblade for a while.
Braig: I'm saying the Keyblade would suit me better.

He looks just like Xigbar from Orgnaisation XIII!!
The Organisation's Xigbar has an eyepatch, scars, and a fierce expression, but...

[bottom screenshot]

Master Xehanort captured!!
???: Master Xehanort!

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BATTLE vs BRAIG

Braig's method of attacking is sniping with his guns. It's just the same as the fighting style we saw from Xigbar!

[right hand screenshot]

Braig snipes from hight places. Is running around all his target, Terra, can do?

[left hand screenshot]

As you'd expect, getting hit by Xigbar's short-range attack would be dangerous even for Terra!

[Armando]

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Huh. So he wasn't all fucked up at some point. Makes you wonder what happens to him.

Also WTF Pete.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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By the time you got to a certain point of 358/2, Xigbar started wigging out at "poppet" and for good reason

And for good reason...

Xigbar most likely wasn't seeing Xion as Roxas, but Ventus - the one that most likely took his eye. Xion tended to reflect aspects of Sora to others. Ventus is apparently one of the aspects. Axel's connection to Sora let him see her as Sora and Kairi, while Roxas always saw her more like Sora would see Kairi

It seems all the founders of the Organization will be accounted for in BBS, but that does leave where Saix, Axel, Larxene and a few of the others fit in.

Also, that mysterious cutscene they keep showing, "I've been to see him. He looks a lot like you."

Yeah, that scene Nomura writes off as a dream

I'm starting to doubt the shrouded figure, Xemnas meant Sora. They probably keep Ventus somwhere in the castle with Aqua's remains

Also,

The naming of all the main protagonists in KH and BBS seem to reference each other, which could point to fate and origin of a particular character. My money is on Terra becoming Xehanort, taking on Master Xehanort's name, not unlike he did later with Ansem the Wise.

[Armando]

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but that does leave where Saix, Axel, Larxene and a few of the others fit in.

Those don't necessarily have to appear.

Since...

...Ansem only had 6 apprentices. Although it's very strange that Saix is second in command despite not being one of the original six and being ranked No.7

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Well, I'm sure they will appear if only in passing, they ssemed to make the Saix/Axel relationship seem important, so we should at least be meeting up with them. Plus you really can't have a KH without Axel anyway, he's kind of a big element of the series now.

Hopefully, SE has got that memorized.

Also, I find it interesting that the biggest complaint directed toward the series now is "there's not enough Disney in it."

I kinda blame, you know, Disney for that. Seems al the effort comes from SE so I think they're in the right to let SE characters take center stage.

Plus when you have a crossover product that runs too firmly on licensed characters, it tends to flounder and become less interesting with each outing.

Just take Aliens Vs. Predator - when have any of those games been fun without the Marines? The one game the Marines weren't playable sucked ass. The Marines are the human anchor. Any big crossover requires an anchor newcomers can identify with, you can't seriously expect people to know Wolverine's history when he has to share pages with Superman, Spiderman, Batman and Rouge. You need an anchor and even if that anchor is a one-shot character, its better than nothing.

Sora, Riku and Kairi, amoung others, have been the anchor of the series. Also, Axel, Xion and Roxas. Soon Terra, Aqua and Ventus as well.

The original concept was to have it be all Disney and if that was the case, I'd probably never play the series at all. I'd just watch the movies.

[Gobo]

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Response to Speculation

The scene that takes place between Roxas and Xemnas takes place right after Sora fights Xemnas in Hollow Bastion in Kingdom Hearts: Final Mix. This is also the same time he copies Sora's memories to be used in the Replica Project.

Its also speculated that Xemnas also did not see Xion has a hooded figure or black haired Kairi, but as Ventus as well.

Also, Xemnas does not know where Ventus is. He believes he is in the Room of Awakening, much like Aqua is in the room of Repose. Its assumed this is why he is searching for the second room

Your speculation about the origin of the Xenmas/Ansem/Xehanort persona may not be far off. Before fighting him, the Lingering Spirit/Terra's Armor can sense Xehanort's presence on Sora when he approached. Its something along the lines of "Xehanort? No you are someone who has only been near him." Obviously the Xehanort Terra knows is not physically in any of the games so far.

That's Pete in his Captain Justice costume. You heard of this because I sure haven't.

Also there is speculation going around that BbS will not be released in digital format.

[Ketaru]

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Also, I find it interesting that the biggest complaint directed toward the series now is "there's not enough Disney in it."

I kinda blame, you know, Disney for that. Seems al the effort comes from SE so I think they're in the right to let SE characters take center stage.

Plus when you have a crossover product that runs too firmly on licensed characters, it tends to flounder and become less interesting with each outing.

I wonder what different people might mean when they say "there's not enough Disney in it". I have a similar complaint about the series, but hardly that the Disney character don't take center stage.

- People might use that as more of a complaint of Kingdom Hearts II, where the Disney worlds were rather poorly integrated into the story compared to the first game (and of course Chain of Memories where most of them were completely inconsequential to the story), Beast's Castle notwithstanding and, in fact, a major exception to the rest of the worlds in the game- The Beast is the only non-SE, non-Donald/Goofy, non-Mickey Disney character to participate in a gameplay battle against an Organization member.

- After some 4 games, there is a noticible lack of variety in the locales to visit and explore. How many more times must we have to check out Agrabah, Halloween Town, or Olympus Coloseum? They've made it into every game thus far. It looks like Birth by Sleep may solve some of that. The world of Snow White and a more varied exploration of Never Land look like they're going to be featured. The world of Cinderella Aurora is sure to be heavily plot driven, what with Maleficent and all. And Deep Space is sure to be a popular one.

As I've said before, I may not be attracted to most of the Disney areas themselves, but I am enjoying the integration of some of the more anchored characters of the series: the idea of having Donald and Goofy as travelling companions, Maleficent as trascending her Sleeping Beauty role, and of course Mickey who is so ubiquitous everywhere else yet a rarity to see in the series.

The complaint that I seem to notice the most is "there's not enough Kairi in it." And to that end, I do agree. She may be an anchor character, but in ways compared to all the other developed characters in the game, she seems to exist more as a symbol than anything. Her direct role often seems peripheral at best, even compared to character derived from her like Namine or Xion or, I'm guessing, Aqua.

EDIT: Oops, I got Sleeping Beauty and Cinderella mixed up...

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I think the availability of worlds is one of the faults that lies with Disney. They allowed unrestricted access to those movie assets for those games, but by the time KH II came around it seemed like they wanted to hype more recent movies or forthcoming revivals of things like Tron (even back then, we suspected it was coming).

While its one SE to request use of assets, it probably costs extra money for more licensing. They also clearly held back on using some of them aggressively so they could save them for later games. KH also started while Eisner was running things. His replacement, Bob Iger, may not see the series with the same zeal Eisner did. Not that Eisner is great, but he was much more keen on finding ways to milk Disney that didn't make people happy. He also wasn't progrssing the brand and the theme parks for nearly a decaade.

So while its on SE to request and pay for other Disney licenses, its also on Disney to provide them. And for a handheld production like 358/2 Days and CoM, I'd suspect that it would take a huge bite out of the profitability for those games.

In BBS we've seen reuse of Peter Pan, more use of Stitch and the oft-referened, but never used Cinderella, Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.

I think characters like Maleficent being able to be a major force for the first game also game with her being the first true Disney villain. The use of Beast against Xaldin now makes much more sense in light of 358/2. Beasts ability to hop over to Hollow Bastion after Belle, though, never made much sense. Aside from Donald, Goofy and Mickey and our FF characters, he was the only one from another world to make the jump. I wonder how he even got Belle back to his castle.

[Gobo]

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Images of Ienzo are coming soon. They are in the newest Famitsu. He is supposedly a kid, possibly younger than Ven!

[Gobo]

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Well that was faster than I thought. 6 pages total of BbS stuff. Nothings been translated yet, but the gist of it is 2 pages on Disney Town and all of its minigame glory. Seems to be a little story with Minnie, Donald's Nephews and Pete as Captain Justice and Captain Dark. Main premise seems to be minigames. The next 2 pages are all about Multiplayer mode and the board game. The last 2 are Radiant Garden. Ven interacts with Scrooge McDuck, there seems to be a Co-op battle with the 3 heroes (Happens in all 3 story lines, you just change who you are controlling) and then the 6 lab assistants. Just more images of the Battle with Braig, the same scene from the trailer with Dilan and Aeleus blocking Ven. And a new image of Even and Ienzo.

Ready to see the little tike?

aww isn't he cute. Must be a smart little son of a bitch too.

EDIT: Goodness I seemed to have missed 2 pages. One is just the "poster" image for the game. The other is all about their keyblades in riding mode with the heroes in their armor. From the looks of it, their keyblades transform into riding vehicles/weapons. For example, Aqua's turns into a scooter like thing, the handle bars can also be used as a bow. This could be the "Gummi Ship" for this game to travel between worlds. Also, all their keyblades now have a chain (for the longest time they didn't).

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Speaking of Zexion, what exactly was the point of replaying his Destiny Island scene from Chain of Memories within 358/2 Days? The scene didn't really have anything to do with Sora and was a Riku scene, so I'm puzzled as to its significance regarding Xion and Roxas.

Riku's Path was a bitch in the PS2 version, I might add. Ansem was a real punk this time. I am happy to say I beat his ass without going into D-Mode, though.

And since I will put my money where my mouth is, I'm now playing KHII on the highest difficulty available I'd hunt down a copy of the original, but it seems rare right now in my town, plus there's really not much insight to grab from it anymore. Pretty much everything from the first game is covered within CoM and KHII.

[Gobo]

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The localization of the English release has started. Jessy McCartney will be VAing again (as reported by his Twitter account), likely Ven. The VAs for Mickey, Minnie and Stich all have been confirmed as well. Bret Iwan, Russi Taylor and Chris Sanders respectively. Bret Iwan is replacing he late Wayne Allwine, who died earlier this year.

Oh and KHInsider has translations up of all those scans. (Credit to krexia for the translations)

http://www.khinsider.com/images/Birt..._01-02_eng.jpg

http://www.khinsider.com/images/Birt..._03-04_eng.jpg

http://www.khinsider.com/images/Birt..._05-06_eng.jpg

http://www.khinsider.com/images/Birt..._07-08_eng.jpg

One for Coded if you care as well:

http://www.khinsider.com/images/Birt..._09-10_eng.jpg

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I'm hoping the synthesis system in BBS is as strong as it was in 358/2, because the system that they used in the console games remains a tremendous eyesore. For all the meager upgrades the shops have, you should be able to piece together something better than a few uselsss trinkets after twenty hours of play.

In 358/2 Synthesis was well-integrated and useful, a tremendous asset to the panel system, to boot. I actually like the heart point system also being added alongside the Munny currency, as KH games in general really likes to short you on the financial side of things. Moogle points in CoM were nickel and dimed out to you as well, but at least you could find cards in the field as well.

In KHII, after clocking 22 hours so far, i've made three things, one of which is moderately useful. There's no excuse for that kind of time investment yielding such pitful results. If this was the main wait to get better gear, it was terribly implemented and I think they came to realize that when they made the systems they did for 358/2.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Junior Hero 1st Class Zack Fair enters the fray.