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  • #31
    Re: New SE title teased

    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
    Square Enix announces Front Mission Evolved, NIER


    So it seems the new Front Mission is a 3rd person shooter WTF and it's not a 360 exclusive. Worst of all is it's being made by Double Helix, the same assclowns that made Silent Hill: Homecoming.

    Think I'm going to pass on this one.
    Well, the title implied this FM game was going in a different direction. FM Online was also action-based, so that's probably a foundation for this project in some respects. You also have to admit that even for a strategy RPG, Front Mission is almost too in-depth. If I wanted to take hours to set up and finish a mission, I might as well be doing a tabletop RPG.

    Also, SH:H seems to have fared as well as the previous two games. I don't see the problem with the game unless you have something against Americans developers continuing what the Japanese developers started. But in that case, that was Konami's descision and they felt comfortable leaving it in someone else's hands.

    Metroid seemed to do well in the hands of an American team. I think its more about a constant flow of communication between both sides. Nintendo seems to have a lot of experience doing that now. I can't vouch for Konami, but I put SE's practically anal attention to details on par with Nintendo. They'll be watching it carefully, I'm sure.

    I guess they dscided with the action angle that it would be suitable for PS3 players after all, though I still think it would a waste given Playstation gamers really only seem to care about Final Fantasy. They were ready to get out the torches and pitchforks when they assumed nothing about FFXIII would be shown at E3. They're going to be disappointed regardless, because the FFXIII team isn't coming to E3 to answer questions because for the fears of swine flu still going around.

    I think that's a reasonable safety measure, but hey, who am I to question the sanity of fanboys.

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    • #32
      Re: New SE title teased

      Man Square Enix is really leading the charge in western-aimed development now. I mean, Double Helix and Cavia? Talk about quality.
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      • #33
        Re: New SE title teased

        Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
        fears of swine flu still going around
        Those are still going around? Unbelievable.
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        No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
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        Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
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        • #34
          Re: New SE title teased

          Yeah, it was detailed in some of the notes on Magic Box that quite a few teams - not just SE ones - won't be coming for those specific concerns. I don't completely blame them. I don't know about the rate of cases on the west coast, but its been fairly minimal out in the southeast.

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          • #35
            Re: New SE title teased

            it is kinda ridiculous, considering it doesn't look like it's any more dangerous than a regular flu at this point. Sort of like not flying post-9/11; it hasn't really gotten any more dangerous.

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            • #36
              Re: New SE title teased

              Remember Bird flu and West Nile Virus? Media has to have something to make people panic.
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              • #37
                Re: New SE title teased

                Both Origins and Homecoming were garbage. I liked 3 OK but SH:2 is still the best Survival Horror title ever made (Barring Dead Space & The RE1 Remake on Cube)

                I'm not that familiar with Cavia's works but Double Helix is a shitty developer, do not compare them to Retro Studios or Insomniac etc.
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                • #38
                  Re: New SE title teased

                  Cavia made Drakengard.
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                  • #39
                    Re: New SE title teased

                    Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                    Both Origins and Homecoming were garbage. I liked 3 OK but SH:2 is still the best Survival Horror title ever made (Barring Dead Space & The RE1 Remake on Cube)
                    I don't think you know Double Helix's history. They're a merger of Shiny Entertainment and The Collective.

                    Their history includes the Earthworm Jim series, MDK, Wrath Unleased, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb. This makes them worth watching, because these are the sorts of titles SE probably looked at. Yes, the Shiny half has been responsible for some garbage in its time, but The Collective has always gotten fairly high marks.

                    The Collective's involvement alone makes Front Mission Evolved one to watch. With SE watching over this, I'm sure it will turn out all the better. The Collective did good action games, which isn't SE's element. SE knows cinematic and roleplay elements, which will inevitably be part of the experience.

                    So drop the fucking nerd rage and give them a fair shake. Silent Hill has been shit ever since Konami started whoring the franchise, I can't blame any developer for how rushed the last few games have felt because Konami pushed the deadlines.

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                    • #40
                      Re: New SE title teased

                      O.O so they did (and I own both Drakenguard games lol)

                      They weren't the best ever but I did enjoy them (though 1 was much better than 2)


                      Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                      o drop the fucking nerd rage and give them a fair shake.
                      NEVER! As a huge fan of survival horror I'm seriously pissed that the genre has been going all to hell for some time. As much as I loved Dead Space it still doesn't count as a Survival Horror title in my books.
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                      • #41
                        Re: New SE title teased

                        Dear SE, Toss all that crap. Einhander 2 go, now. Love, TM
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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                          As much as I loved Dead Space it still doesn't count as a Survival Horror title in my books.

                          Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                          SH:2 is still the best Survival Horror title ever made (Barring Dead Space
                          Malacite, take your pills.

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                          • #43
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                            I said Barring Dead Space because while I still don't technically realize it as a SH game, the atmosphere was just too well done to ignore. It's 50/50 really @.@; if they would just do away with the money and mobs dropping ammo it'd be perfect.

                            And I second Einhander 2. At the very least put the original up on PSN!!! I read over at Joystiq that Hirai-san is planning to greatly expand the PSN so who knows. We might even see Eirgheiz XD (however the hell you spell it)
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                            • #44
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                              Except Dead Space stopped being scary after chapter 1. =( it was just frickin' gory in lieu of actual thrills. Was still a fun game, though.
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                              • #45
                                Re: New SE title teased

                                Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
                                Well, the title implied this FM game was going in a different direction. FM Online was also action-based, so that's probably a foundation for this project in some respects. You also have to admit that even for a strategy RPG, Front Mission is almost too in-depth. If I wanted to take hours to set up and finish a mission, I might as well be doing a tabletop RPG.
                                Really?! Maybe I wasn't playing the game right because each mission only took me 20mins to setup up for max and alot of the missions in 4 were easy compared to the mission in 1 and 3. But in all fairness I played every FM except 5 so I always built the same team types and it is always successful.

                                3rd person shooter this saddens me? I already hoping for a 2d fighter revival, but now a tactical rpg one too? A person can only take so much defeat from the industry changing.

                                Getting on point FM online is a hard game to place, because very little can be seen in the states, I guess no one wanted to make good recording. But the shooter aspect fits well for the american game style, so people that don't care about story can blaze through it, and go and kill this person and run through the game. Though a 3rd person shooter might take out the team woirk aspect of it unless they make it like Star wars republic commandos. But reguardless I am getting it. Maybe not on release but it is a FM so I will get it.

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