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    Lawsuit: Retired NFLers Cheated by EA, Union

    "A suit brought by retired NFL players not only alleges they're due money for Electronic Arts' use of their likenesses and career stats, but also that their own union brokered a below-market deal as a favor to EA, helping it secure exclusive NFL rights for its Madden franchise.

    Via Ars Technica and GamePolitics, former Buffalo Bills defensive back Jeff Nixon has written an open letter to John Madden (also a Hall of Famer and former Oakland Raiders coach) which details some documents discovered in this suit. Nixon alleges the plaintiffs have communication between the a union official and an EA developer cc'd to another union official, in which everyone agreed to scramble retired players' likenesses to keep from paying them, beginning with Madden NFL 2002. The players may not be identifiable visually, or by number, but they still have the same height, weight, years of service and performance characteristics, making them wink-and-nod identifiable.

    The reason for the scrambling? Take-Two apparently was going after retired players' image permissions for a game that never got off the ground. Nixon alleges EA and the NFLPA's marketing unit, NFL Players Inc., rushed to lock down a contract that secured the most valuable retired players' rights for below-market payments, and says he has an email (jump) admitting this.

    Writes Nixon:


    When a substantial competitor to EA [Take-Two] began to emerge for use of retired players, EA and Defendants rushed to enter into a contract locking up the most valuable retired players’ rights in exchange for payments that were admittedly below market. [NFL Players Inc]’s Senior Vice-President, Clay Walker, admitted as much in the following email:

    “Take Two [the EA competitor] went after retired players to create an “NFL” style video game after we gave the exclusive to EA. I was able to forge this deal with [the Pro Football Hall of Fame] that provides them with $400K per year (which is significantly below market rate) in exchange for the HOF player rights. EA owes me a huge favor because that threat was enough to persuade Take Two to back off its plans, leaving EA as the only professional football videogame manufacturer out there.”

    Ars Technica also pointed out another email dug up by the suit:

    An e-mail sent November 1, 2007, is equally plain in its language. Andrew Feffer, executive vice president and chief operating officer of the NFLPA wrote to EA Sports' representative Paul Cairns that "Clay and Joe's negotiation of these discounted terms was a significant contribution to EA as you more than likely would have paid in excess of $1 million for these rights without their involvement and assistance." In other words, you saved a cool million because you had people negotiating who weren't hoping to strike the best deal for the players.

    As for the agreement to scramble players' likenesses, Nixon's letter also says this is from LaShun Lawson, the VP of multimedia for NFL Players, Inc., to EA producer Jeremy Strauser, cc'd to Doug Allen, then president of NFL Players Inc.

    “For all retired players that are not listed... their identity must be altered so that it cannot be recognized. Regarding paragraph 2 of the License Agreement between Electronic Arts and Players Inc, a player’s identity is defined as his name, likeness (including without limitation, number), picture, photograph, voice, facsimile signature and/or biographical information. Hence, any and all players not listed... cannot be represented in Madden 2002 with the number that player actually wore, and must be scrambled."

    The lawsuit goes to trial next month in San Francisco.
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    I'm not an EA fan. I don't like how they screwed us from having a variety of official sports games to choose from. It's basically "buy ours or don't play" type of mentality. I hope they get f**ked hard.
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    ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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    Re: Ah EA...

    EA is a pretty disgusting game company. They didn't innovate shit for years in thier games until two years after they bought out licenses to a lot of sports.

    NOW, they decide its time to innovate and while what they're doing is impressive and actually innovative, the fact remains they only bought this security in the first place to convieniently strengthen thier brands in the eyes of gamers while they hold the exclusivity.

    Worst part is, its actually working.

    I laughed my ass off at some of the promotional videos for Madden, talking about how they want thier competition to be Metal Gear Solid or Grand Theft Auto. Well gee, dumbass, that's because you guys prevented other NFL and NCAA football games from being made. This is like a Democrat saying they don't just want Republicans to be thier competition, but the Libertarians and Green Party. Given both they and the Republicans do all the can to smother those other groups out, they aren't allowed to be competition.

    Competition cannot exist with a monopoly. Madden doesn't compete with MGS because not all gamers pick up sports games and not all gamers pick up stealth action games. Totally different flavors. Does WiiFit compete with Final Fantasy Tactics? I don't think so.
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    • #3
      Re: Ah EA...

      I haven't bought a Madden game since 03 lol

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      • #4
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        I wish cancer upon EA. Horribly, painful rectal/prostate/ovarian cancer!


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        • #5
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          Originally posted by little ninja View Post
          I haven't bought a Madden game since 03 lol
          I haven't bought one since Madden '94 for the SNES ^^.

          I dunno, the more realistic they get, the more boring they get to me.
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          • #6
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            Article says "cannot be represented in Madden 2002 with the number that player actually wore" so wouldn't this be a 7 year old article?

            And the last Madden game I bought was...never.
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            • #7
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              I enjoy Madden but they have so much untapped potential there because they don't seem to care anymore.

              They have the ESPN license and do exactly 0 with it.

              I remember one of the first versions of madden actually did recaps of other games during the week and the ESPN games used to do sportscenter with highlights from other games during halftime.

              They've finally started to fix some glaring play issues, it'd be nice if they worked on presentation.


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              • #8
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                I just want to know where SSX went to, really, its the only EA series I really care about.

                The series peaked at SSX3 and then they pull the "tour" crap again. And now, nothing. I mean, they beat all the other EA Big titles into the ground with the realism bullshit when they were supposed to feel more arcadey. I liked NBA Street more the first time than I did any of the sequels. Probably because the NBA element didn't overwhelm the emphasis on Street Basketball and arcade fun.

                But as often is the case with EA, they just let the license of these titles get too big.

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                • #9
                  Re: Ah EA...

                  Originally posted by Susurrus View Post
                  Article says "cannot be represented in Madden 2002 with the number that player actually wore" so wouldn't this be a 7 year old article?
                  9:00 AM on Sat Oct 4 2008
                  By Owen Good
                  Originally posted by Feba
                  But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
                  Originally posted by Taskmage
                  God I hate my periods. You think passing a clot through a vagina is bad? Try it with a penis.
                  Originally posted by DakAttack
                  ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Ah EA...

                    Originally posted by TheGrandMom View Post
                    9:00 AM on Sat Oct 4 2008
                    By Owen Good
                    Sounds like Owen Good is 7 years too late then.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Ah EA...

                      Nixon alleges the plaintiffs have communication between the a union official and an EA developer cc'd to another union official, in which everyone agreed to scramble retired players' likenesses to keep from paying them, beginning with Madden NFL 2002.
                      Originally posted by Feba
                      But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
                      Originally posted by Taskmage
                      God I hate my periods. You think passing a clot through a vagina is bad? Try it with a penis.
                      Originally posted by DakAttack
                      ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Ah EA...

                        EA should die. I wish they were one of the companies that bought millions of subprime mortgages. Vitrual mortgages, maybe?
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