Final Fantasy IV for DS (Finally!!!)

[Feba]

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Honestly, the 'wonderful touch ups' you describe were horrible butcherings. They lost the charm of the original models, while simultaneously managing to be poor looking themselves.

So yeah, I'd say N64 level 3D is better; at least then you have to create entirely new models that don't give a sour view every time you look at them.

Although there's no reason they couldn't do "wonderful 2D" on the DS if they wanted to.

[Malacite]

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Honestly, the 'wonderful touch ups' you describe were horrible butcherings. They lost the charm of the original models, while simultaneously managing to be poor looking themselves.

Difference of opinion. I found the graphics of FF1 and 2 (as did pretty much every review) beautiful.

[Feba]

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I found the graphics of FF1 and 2 (as did pretty much every review) beautiful.

IGN: World of Warcraft Review

Note where he calls WoW's art direction "top-notch".

Now look at this;



Or pretty much any result on google images.

The fact is, those models don't look as good as a 2D game nowadays should. They also completely lose the charm the original sprites give us all when we look at them. Is it passable? Sure. But it's not better than redoing them with equally crappy-yet-eventually-charming graphics, or in full blown FMV-style console goodness. Really, I'd argue it's not even better than just recycling the same graphics again, but FF1&2 has had more remakes than you can shake a stick at, I suppose SE figured they needed to do SOMETHING different.

[Murphie]

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We get it, Feba. You don't like the way WoW looks. The good news, thankfully, is that you aren't in charge of deciding what everyone else likes.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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You forgot the sequel to DoC BBQ.

What sequel to Dirge of Cerberus? There was a cellphone game, but that was more like supplemental chapters than a sequel.

Also, Feba, you just don't get how certain game companies work.

Why go to the effort to remake and update FFIV on DS?

Cheaper for SE, kinda the reason Nintendo has gone lower tech than its competitors. Lower expenses on DS projects mean higher revenues for third parties.

Why does Blizzard skew the graphic of thier games so low?

Because, unlike some PC developers, they don't want to force bullshit upgrades on thier customers. Every Blizzard game ever released on PC has been skewed so it can be played on lesser PCs. They don't want people needing these huge behemoth gaming PCs just to play thier games. Seems to have worked for them rather well seeing how long people have kept playing all those Warcraft, Starcraft and Diabolo games.

[Feba]

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Why go to the effort to remake and update FFIV on DS?

Because they were doing a lot of things on DS, and a lot of remakes, and they're just starting to realize (or rather, talk about realizing) that that strategy isn't working so well for them.

I'm not saying that DS remakes are bad, I've got FF3 for DS and it's very fun; and the models undeniably have charm that, say, a PS3 remake wouldn't have. I'm just saying that they aren't working out so well for SE.

Why does Blizzard skew the graphic of thier games so low?

That was never, ever the point. It was purely one of art direction. WoW has higher systems requirements than FFXI, but FFXI looks leagues and leagues better. Reviewers are not always correct; and hype tends to screw with them. Look at GTA4's reviews, for instance, there are quite a few that are unfair.

[Malacite]

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What sequel to Dirge of Cerberus? There was a cellphone game, but that was more like supplemental chapters than a sequel.

I already showed the extra ending in a previous thread; Genesis is still alive and takes Weiss with him. Plus in AC Sephiroth said he will keep coming back.

[Gobo]

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Snippets of English VAs are up on gametrailers.

[ame=http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34660.html]Gametrailers.com - Final Fantasy IV - Cecil's Journey Trailer[/ame]

[ame=http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34788.html]Gametrailers.com - Final Fantasy IV - Exclusive Regretful Cinema[/ame]


Plus some of the changes to the battle system

[ame=http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34786.html]Gametrailers.com - Final Fantasy IV - Exclusive Battle Gameplay[/ame]

Apparently the Whit (Rydia's new summon) thing is a pokemon like summon for the game. It starts out really weak, but you can raise it with minigames and the like. The rest of the summons have the standard CS style attacks.

[Malacite]

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Awesome!!!! ARGH Cecil's VA is driving me nuts because I recognize that actor, just can't think of the name.

[Kailea]

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good old battle music

[Yellow Mage]

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FFIV is starting to look a lot the heck like FFXI now, ATB and Single Player aside. Cecil's "Darkness" is Souleater, apparently, and now Rydia has summons that stay out after she calls them to do stuff . . .

In other words, they nerfed Rydia to XI Summoner's level.

[TheGrandMom]

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Aren't some of the voice actors for it from the English Naruto? I thought I read that somewhere but I'm too irritated to look it up. (I've currently been on hold with SE for an hour and 12 minutes. Going to be a nice fat long distance charge this month.)

[Kailea]

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FFIV is starting to look a lot the heck like FFXI now, ATB and Single Player aside. Cecil's "Darkness" is Souleater, apparently, and now Rydia has summons that stay out after she calls them to do stuff . . .

In other words, they nerfed Rydia to XI Summoner's level.

no Cecil's Darkness attack has always been there, it was in the original FFIV< but removed in the American version, then put back in a rerelease for PSX and this.

and as for the Summons, that is the only one that says out, the rest are cut scene attacks, like they always have been.

[emeraldpearl]

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i can not wait for this game, loved ff3 remake but wasnt so keen on the crystal chronicles game that was released. however this game looks amazing god bless m3ds real

[Yellow Mage]

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Cecil's Darkness attack has always been there, it was in the original FFIV< but removed in the American version, then put back in a rerelease for PSX and this.

I know that, and it was also on FFIV Advance. Instead of Souleater a la FFXI, Darkness in the GBA version was really more of an AoE attack that drained Cecil's HP.