FF7 Remake: Should SE Rewrite it?

[Feba]

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Oh Malacite, please. What do you call Crystal Chronicles? And SE releasing FF titles on GBA? SE has been releasing on Nintendo consoles again since at least 2003 as far as I can see, years before the DS was released. I highly doubt that either Nintendo or SE would be stupid enough to shun the other one.

Also, as far as I can see, the DS supports up to 2GB in flash card memory, according to TPB, FF7 is around 1.5GB for all disks. Even if that's compressed, FF7 could easily be made to fit on two DS carts. Also keep in mind that it would probably have to be completely remade with SE's DS engine (See FF3, Ring of Fates, etc.), which would no doubt reduce the size considerably.

[Malacite]

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I highly doubt that either Nintendo or SE would be stupid enough to shun the other one.

Nintendo did just that. I'm gonna have to do some searching for the documentation since it's been years but their president openly derided Squaresoft for leaving them over the CD media issue. The Japanese eventually got tired of it though and demanded Nintendo make nice with Square and they did; that's why we got the GBA and DS titles. And honestly, the PSP would have been way better anyway (look at the FF1 remake; it's stunning) for the portable remakes but oh well. The DS prints money after all...

There would still be significant quality loss Feba. Yeah the technology has gotten better, but optical discs are still superior to cartridges. Besides, FF7 is a bit much for a hand held don't you think? Doesn't fit the play-and-go style too well. I found the earlier games were for the most part a bit easier on this matter but FF7 really pushes it in some areas (Like the Lifestream section) and IMO, SE would be a lot better off pouring their resources into a PS3 remake.

The updated graphics alone would make more a much more immersive experience. It'd be great to actually be able to see their facial expressions and hear their voices to get a better sense of nuances and sarcasm in their dialogue. Though, the drag and bath house scenes would be even more disturbing >_>

If they can remake and net a profit off of FF1 8 times, they can damn well remake their most popular title ever. Or they can be stupid and sit on a potential gold mine, it's up to them. SE has always been big on pushing consoles to their limits. Well, have at it SE. You've already broken the PSP with Crisis Core (damn near filled up the entire UMD-ROM!) and I just can't see them letting Hideo Kojima or Insomniac steal their thunder with BD and PS3 ~.^

Or am I the only one who feels that updated graphics and sound will make moments like Aerith's death more epic? Or when the WEAPONs come out and run amok? Shit, they may as well rip the ending FMV for Crisis Core and throw it in >. > (why not?)

[Feba]

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but their president openly derided Squaresoft for leaving them over the CD media issue

Criticizing their moves and 'publicly humiliating' them are pretty damn far apart.

PSP would have been way better anyway

Like you admit yourself, the DS is far more popular. You sell on a more popular platform, you have a larger amount of people to sell to, you make more money. Also, "better graphics" and "better" are nowhere near the same thing.

(look at the FF1 remake; it's stunning)

The PSP FF1 remake? It looks awful. It's not high enough quality to look like a nice good 2D game, and it's not the beloved pixel-y goodness. It's like they took a piece of rotted wood and polished it. Now it doesn't look good or have charm.

There would still be significant quality loss Feba.

Of course there would be. Like I said, if FF7 were released on DS, it would no doubt use the same engine SE has used for it's other games on that console.

Yeah the technology has gotten better, but optical discs are still superior to cartridges.

That also isn't in debate. You said that FF7 could not be made for DS, I'm just saying that it could be.

Besides, FF7 is a bit much for a hand held don't you think?

Not any more than FFV, or FF3. Some of us don't really care if we're playing a game on a handheld or a TV that much. If I want a quick, fun game, my phone has tetris. If I want something more engaging? This is why I have my Game Gear, or Pocket, or Color, or GBA, or DS, and so on.

Or am I the only one who feels that updated graphics and sound will make moments like Aerith's death more epic?

Didn't AC already show that? Either way, I personally didn't really feel her death was 'epic'. It was tragic, but not incredible.

[LadyKiKi]

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FF7 for the DS.....

Like (nearly?) every DS game, they'll find a way to utilise the touch screen.

Imagine a Gold Saucer with mini games all using the touch screen ..... the rollercoaster game comes to mind.

And perhaps enhancing the chocobo breeding system using the touch screen ... poke/stroke the chocobo ... :p

[Malacite]

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The PSP FF1 remake? It looks awful. It's not high enough quality to look like a nice good 2D game, and it's not the beloved pixel-y goodness. It's like they took a piece of rotted wood and polished it. Now it doesn't look good or have charm.

You sir must have a pig's eye >. >

[Rostum]

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Crisis Core has mostly been rock, which is ok, because it rocks.

True, it does rock. I should have been more specific -- was talking more like the orchestrated bits in the game (like the one-winged angel and credit themes). I think for the original FF7 game, I'd much rather see fully orchestrated music rather than a rock remix. But I'm still open for the idea as long as it's more like Crisis Core than Advent Children.

Nobuo would have to do the music or it wouldn't be FF7.

Definitely. I was just merely stating I hope he doesn't turn it into a full on rock soundtrack.

And I for one like the rock remixes that he and his band "The Black Mages" have done (though I agree they'd be out of place in FF7)

Yeah they're not bad, their third album kind of sucks though... Would be a bit out of place. I was more talking about the stuff he did for Advent Children -- some of it was alright, but a lot of it felt out of place.

Maybe they can give all the summons (including Sephiroth's Super Nova attack and other boss specials like it) Full FMVs like they did in Crisis Core?

I think that'd be awesome. But if we're talking PS3, it might not even need FMV and may break suspension of belief. Still I think that was done well -- especially since you could skip it once you had seen it enough.

Also, I think it'd be a bad move to release FF7 on the DS or PSP. The quality is greatly reduced and they'd have to cut back on a bit of stuff. I'd rather they just go with the PS3 or some other home console. Just my opinion though -- I would love to see more games for the PSP (only got it for God of War, Patapon and Crisis Core). Oh well.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Also, I think it'd be a bad move to release FF7 on the DS or PSP. The quality is greatly reduced and they'd have to cut back on a bit of stuff. I'd rather they just go with the PS3 or some other home console. Just my opinion though -- I would love to see more games for the PSP (only got it for God of War, Patapon and Crisis Core). Oh well.

Considering how handhelds are the real moneymakers these days, can't say I agree about a handheld version being a bad idea, especially with DS getting remakes of III, IV, V, and VI.

[DakAttack]

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I would buy it for the PSP.

[BurningPanther]

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It'd be the reason I'd buy a PSP.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I guess, there still aren't many reasons to buy a PSP yet.

PSP still has yet to meet my "Five game rule," meaning, if it doesn't have five games I want, I don't get the system at all.

[Rostum]

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Considering how handhelds are the real moneymakers these days, can't say I agree about a handheld version being a bad idea, especially with DS getting remakes of III, IV, V, and VI.

I guess, but from what I've seen around with the FF7 fanbase all over the internet, they'd be mighty pissed if it wasn't on a home console. By the way, I was under the impression that they only remade FFIII and IV for the DS? (Unless I missed an announcement of V VI, or unless you meant the GBA versions)

Anyway, I guess only time would really tell. I wouldn't be too fussed myself, just that I would rather see more polycount and texture resolutions for a remake of the original game that made me fall in love with RPG's in general.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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V and VI were announced fo DS style remakes a while back, there just haven't been any first screens of either since FFIV was the focus for a while.

Honestly, though, my only problem with remakes is that it does kill some of the more campy elements of the original games. Things like Cloud dressing up as a girl to save Tifa, Rude slacking off his duties in Junon, Cait Sith in general, and "The Date" results in the Golden Saucer.

It will be interesting to see how well a game like FFVI holds up on DS. It could be playing with fire, though, as the 16-bit animations are immortalized in the minds of gamers in ways not even the characters of FFVII are. Just keep the hopping, animations and Kefka's laugh and it should be ok, though.

[Malacite]

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If I were Kazuo Hirai right now I'd be begging SE (i.e. large sums of money >. >) to do FF7 again on PS3 and make an FF7 bundle.

The JP want a reason to spend that kind of money it? There you go.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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PS3 needs more than one game as an incentive to buy.

If FFXIII, MGS4 and GTA4 aren't getting people to come out in droves and buy it, nothing will.

At least, except for a real price drop, but Sony is at Nintendo N64 levels of arrogance right now, so I doubt that will happen.

[BurningPanther]

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And yet, an FFVII remake alone will be the reason I buy said system.

Kooky, no?