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    Here comes Sony's next attempt to right their wrongs; the "Core" PS3 model will be retuning this month after the murder of the launch-period 20GB unit. Many despised the move as it was, obviously, a cheaper solution to the expensive standard unit.

    Many reports are coming in worldwide that a new SKU will launch this month, and speculation has run for quite some time that it'll hit for a $399 price point, and the attached BestBuy leaked UPC info slip confirms that price point. (Retailers are speculating 399 Euros in Europe, and retailers are claiming $699 price point in Australia.)

    Retailers are reporting that the unit will be stripped of its card reader like the original 20GB PS3. However, it will ship with a 40GB HDD, it will include WiFi, but it will not contain the PS2 chipset at all, meaning no PS2 Graphics Synthesizer GPU, and no backwards compatibility (unless Sony plans on full software BC somewhere down the road, but that seems unlikely).





    This BestBuy slip also seems to confirm that it will ship with Spider-Man 3 packed in.

    Will Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction ship packed-in as well? Some are speculating, as the game was delayed from its October 23rd release one week, after going gold. That seems unlikely, as perhaps the delay was just to emphasize one of the PS3's biggest fall titles at the release of this new SKU.

    The obvious point of contention is the lack of Backwards Compatibility. For many, BC doesn't really mean much for consoles in general but it usually a highlight of Sony consoles, especially since the PS2 had such a strong library. Granted, $399 is a decent price to pay for the cost of having to keep your PS2 around, but for some it'll be too much of a tradeoff. I know a few friends who'll be picking this new SKU up this month, while others will be waiting for a price drop on the 80GB unit next year, which is rumoured to hit around the time Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, and LittleBigPlanet are released.
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    Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

    honestly, given that Sony could be tossing in 500GB hard drives for as much as they're charging, I'm not impressed.

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    • #3
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      It was a good idea until I saw the no backwards compatibility.
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      • #4
        Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

        I just have to post in here to counter-balance the skeptics.

        I think it's a good idea. Well. It's a give/take concept, but $400 is a nice pricepoint.

        Rather, it would have been a GREAT price point last year, but the options for PS3 purchasing are great considering the system isn't even a year old. And it's likely that people would complain about something else if they were given backwards compatibility.

        I sold my PS2 and all my games (but kept my memory card. no way in hell I'm getting rid of that), but honestly, it's not like it's hard to find a PS2 anymore.
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        • #5
          Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

          I seriously doubt they could afford dropping the backwards compatibility feature given the still weak PS3 library.

          My bet is on full software emulation.


          And besides, you can always upgrade your HDD later.
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            Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

            Backwards compatibility is still an important point for the PS3 because the library is still not strong enough to stand on its own, but as it strengthens with must-have titles, this 40GB unit will likely become more desirable.

            At the same time however, practically everyone who plays videogames owns a PS2, so it's mostly an issue for the rare people who never owned one, the people who have sold theirs or want to sell theirs, or those with 1080p TVs and want the PS3's upscaling capabilities.
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              Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

              Originally posted by WishMaster3K View Post
              it's not like it's hard to find a PS2 anymore.
              I have a PS2. I do not however have room for a billion consoles. Backwards compatibility is important for that reason.
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                Perhaps the expectation was too strong? Someone needs to compare the amount of games that the PS2 had as block busters this time of it's life span. But maybe I'm being too optimistic.

                Was it the PS2's first Christmas where we had DMC, MGS AND FFX? Sheesh, that was a crazy holiday.
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                Originally posted by Mhurron View Post
                I have a PS2. I do not however have room for at least 100 consoles. Backwards compatibility is important for that reason.
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                  Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

                  PS2 had practically no blockbusters within its first year. It's 2nd Christmas on the market however, was strong, as Wishmaster said.

                  PS3's 2nd holiday is arguably just as strong. With titles like Ratchet, Unreal Tournament 3, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Call of Duty 4, Rock Band, and Haze. However, backwards compatibility is still important this early in a console's life cycle.
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                    Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

                    399 is a nice pricepoint?

                    less, hd space (considering how cheap hd's are), no ps2 compatibility, no card reader and who knows what else theyll strip out. have we been pushed so far now that we dont think thats a hefty price? looks like their strategy is working. get the people used to higher prices and theyll forget about whats reasonable.

                    I kinda relate this to gas. we're so used to paying $3+ (or atleast i am) a gallon for gas and when I see something thats 2.85, i crap my pants and gas up just for the sake of getting cheap gas. Granted gas and ps3s arent exactly the same nor is one as important as the other but the idea is the same.

                    keep pushing the bar up and we'll forget where the bar ever was before.

                    taru edit: bc was always something that attracted me to the ps2. its a very important feature for the ps3 also. like mhurron, i dont want to have extra consoles and controllers lying around just so i can play my ps2 games.

                    also, the biggest draw for me is, like pai pai said, is for ps3 upscaling abilities. id love to see my ps2 games look a bit nicer on my 1080p screen.
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                      Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

                      BC is really the only disconcerting aspect. As you said, considering how cheap HDDs are, why not upgrade? And do card readers really matter? I rarely use mine, except for occasionally uploading photos, and even then I already have a USB card reader which was about $6.

                      $399 is a damn good price for the PS3, but if you really, really want backwards compatibility, it's too high a price to pay. That's not to say the extra $100 is worth it either to get it back, but for now this is a good, cheaper alternative to those who don't care to wait until Spring '08 for another price drop. A $299/$399 price point for both SKUs is certainly that wider-audience price that they're aiming for, but with a $399 SKU out there for the holidays, they certainly won't be slaughtered by the 360 and Wii as badly as it could be.
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                      • #12
                        Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

                        Yeah, you can simply buy a cheap adapter to use the USB ports anyway.

                        But I'm still betting on Software emulation, otherwise this PS3 version will be too gimped in my opinion.


                        Edit > A $299 price would make losing BC kinda worth it, but I seriously doubt we'll see a PS3 cheaper than $399 anytime soon.

                        /em hugs his not-gimped-version PS3.
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                          Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

                          well i dont think the card reader matters per se, its the fact that they have to take features out. how much do card readers cost to put in? is it necessary to strip a feature just to make that 399 price tag seem legit? they could easily keep that feature in and still have it at 399.

                          a 299 price tag for this i think would be just right. I think the feeling that I get when thinking about the ps3 is that im getting jacked.
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                            Backwards compatability is extremely important to me as a collector. As far as I can tell, there's still no reason to own for PS3 for games, because they're still aren't really and must-haves.

                            Just because the tard pack now has a 40 GB HDD doesn't change the fact that it is still a tard pack.

                            PS3's 2nd holiday is arguably just as strong. With titles like Ratchet, Unreal Tournament 3, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Call of Duty 4, Rock Band, and Haze. However, backwards compatibility is still important this early in a console's life cycle.
                            ...

                            That's nothing near as strong as FFX, GTA3, DMC and MGS2 in 2000.

                            Not the mention Ico still blows away any of Sony's other first party originals.
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                              Re: 40GB "Core" PS3 Coming This Month, MSRP $399?

                              $300 for Blu-Ray, PS3 games and backwards compatibility would make me start looking at picking one up. Even at $300 it's too much if I have to keep the PS2 out as well.
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