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Re: Video Games as addictive as heroin?
"Don't feel like you have to talk down to me. You just make yourself look more like an idiot."
Oh-ho-ho, Murphie. /chortle.
I lurk on these boards a fair bit and I've seen the kind of responses you typically give. Suffice to say I'm smiling at the idea that you might offer that advice to someone else. You strike me as someone who finds flames easy Murphie, yet struggles with warmth. Listen, if you ever need anyone to talk to, feel free to PM me ok? OK.
Back on-topic, then:
SO it's agreed, we have conflicting definitions of what constitutes 'addiction'. The idea that addiction is defined SPECIFICALLY THROUGH PHYSICAL HARM BEING CAUSED upon removal of the habit in question is, really, awfully narrow-minded. Over-eating can be an addiction. Shopping can be an addiction. To label problems such as these as merely a 'lack of will-power' is a terrible belittling of a very desperate condition.
Look, this is important: 'Physical dependence upon a substance' is a type of addiction, not addiction itself. Any dictionary wil tell you such. as will any Psychologyst. That's not to say that there isn't cause for debate over this though. There are arguments on both sides over the label 'Addiction'. Right now it's quite vague.
Anyway, to simply cite any other kind of non-chemical mal-prioritisation or dependence upon 'depression' issues and the like rather than 'Proper Addiction' simply indicates a distinct lack of understanding towards what makes addiction problematic and the places it can arise from.
Here's why I think this is a difficult thread topic: It's comparing an intrinsically addicting substance (that ANYone would become hooked on) with a social pastime (that CERTAIN people would become hooked on). The end result, the person who is hooked, both are addicted. Both will suffer trauma if their habit is denied them.
One last point: if you play an MMO and you don't feel it's addictive pull, awesome. But that doesn't mean it isn't there.
Are video games as addictive as Heroin? I don't know.
Is water a better drink than beer?
(Oh, and hi Rain^^)
EDIT:
Oh and the serotonin thing (alongside dopamine), these brain chemicals are intrinsic to ALL addictions, physical and psychological. It's inaccurate to label a psychological dependence (say Cocaine, which isn't physically addicting) as chemical purely becuase it affects serotonin/dopamine chemical levels.
"Don't feel like you have to talk down to me. You just make yourself look more like an idiot."
Oh-ho-ho, Murphie. /chortle.
I lurk on these boards a fair bit and I've seen the kind of responses you typically give. Suffice to say I'm smiling at the idea that you might offer that advice to someone else. You strike me as someone who finds flames easy Murphie, yet struggles with warmth. Listen, if you ever need anyone to talk to, feel free to PM me ok? OK.
Back on-topic, then:
SO it's agreed, we have conflicting definitions of what constitutes 'addiction'. The idea that addiction is defined SPECIFICALLY THROUGH PHYSICAL HARM BEING CAUSED upon removal of the habit in question is, really, awfully narrow-minded. Over-eating can be an addiction. Shopping can be an addiction. To label problems such as these as merely a 'lack of will-power' is a terrible belittling of a very desperate condition.
Look, this is important: 'Physical dependence upon a substance' is a type of addiction, not addiction itself. Any dictionary wil tell you such. as will any Psychologyst. That's not to say that there isn't cause for debate over this though. There are arguments on both sides over the label 'Addiction'. Right now it's quite vague.
Anyway, to simply cite any other kind of non-chemical mal-prioritisation or dependence upon 'depression' issues and the like rather than 'Proper Addiction' simply indicates a distinct lack of understanding towards what makes addiction problematic and the places it can arise from.
Here's why I think this is a difficult thread topic: It's comparing an intrinsically addicting substance (that ANYone would become hooked on) with a social pastime (that CERTAIN people would become hooked on). The end result, the person who is hooked, both are addicted. Both will suffer trauma if their habit is denied them.
One last point: if you play an MMO and you don't feel it's addictive pull, awesome. But that doesn't mean it isn't there.
Are video games as addictive as Heroin? I don't know.
Is water a better drink than beer?
(Oh, and hi Rain^^)
EDIT:
Oh and the serotonin thing (alongside dopamine), these brain chemicals are intrinsic to ALL addictions, physical and psychological. It's inaccurate to label a psychological dependence (say Cocaine, which isn't physically addicting) as chemical purely becuase it affects serotonin/dopamine chemical levels.
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