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  • #16
    Re: More PS3 problems

    Originally posted by Anaki View Post
    <large amount of explicits and retarded comments>
    Excuse me, but that's kind of offensive. I admit, I am a Microsoft fanboy, but I'm not going to jump all over this. Personally, Sony has done a fantastic job during launch.
    I've just had bad experiences with Sony which is why I won't buy the PS3 (also the price...that's a big reason).

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    • #17
      Re: More PS3 problems

      Originally posted by tdh View Post
      Personally I don't think the backwards compat. is that big a selling point. But I know it is for some people. I mean how many of us are going to just get rid of our PS2s because PS3 will play our full library at some point or another? I still have my PSOne. (It's sitting on my desk nex to my monitor. PSOne with the monitor bundle they did was genius.)
      It is a big selling point when the list of games made for the new platform is relatively short, and will be for several months, and also when the device is so expensive in the first place. I don't want to deal with the hassle of having to juggle wires and swap inputs if one system is supposed to be able to play the games I already have.

      Still, because of launch model problems, the high price, and the lack of a good library, I have a policy on all video game consoles to not buy them until they've been out a year and have 15 games I want to own that have been released (or the console can be dead, like the WonderSwan, in place of the second requirement). I'm especially not buying Sony hardware at launch, and preferably not ever buying console hardware from SCEA if I can avoid it.
      http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/gen...igure-out.html
      http://www.assemblergames.com/forums...n-on-NA-US-PS2 (Adoulin install on NA PS2)
      http://bungiefan.tripod.com/psbbn_01.htm
      My PlayStation2 HDD guide. Made with a Japanese PS2 with a HDD and PSBBN 0.20-0.32.

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      • #18
        Re: More PS3 problems

        Originally posted by DakAttack View Post
        People are already lined up for the PS3 in my area, but the hype just doesn't seem to be there like it's been for the Xbox and Xbox 360.
        It sucks to live in your area. Just kidding...where I am, more people are into Sony...but I suppose that's probably just my friends. Evereyone is entitled to their opinions *cough lolXbox cough* and stuff. PS3 is doing excellent at launch compared to some of the problems with PS2...and I really wish that this new way of releasing systems wasn't so retarded...two different set ups with the only noticable difference being HDD size...it's just pointless and a waste of money.

        Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D

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        • #19
          Re: More PS3 problems

          I don't think the PS3 can do worse than the Xbox 360. What a failure it's been.

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          • #20
            Re: More PS3 problems

            Originally posted by Nerotu View Post
            Excuse me, but that's kind of offensive. I admit, I am a Microsoft fanboy, but I'm not going to jump all over this. Personally, Sony has done a fantastic job during launch.
            I've just had bad experiences with Sony which is why I won't buy the PS3 (also the price...that's a big reason).

            i said thats the average response of most fanboys. A being average and B being fanboys doesn't apply only to microsoft

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            • #21
              Re: More PS3 problems

              We may get one eventually but so far there isn't enough there for me to warrant the purchase. Not that it matters, I need to stop playing FFXI before I can probably justify a new console anyway.


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              • #22
                Re: More PS3 problems

                Originally posted by DakAttack View Post
                I don't think the PS3 can do worse than the Xbox 360. What a failure it's been.
                I dunno if you're being sarcastic or not. >_> In my opinion it's been a failure...not a big one, but it's definitely not a success from my point of view. So were you being serious? Cause I really can't tell. >_>

                Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D

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                • #23
                  Re: More PS3 problems

                  Originally posted by Thrasher View Post
                  The real problem with the PS3 right now.
                  Two days worth of playstation 3 sales data via Media Create. (well ok via Kotaku)
                  Total Hardware Sales: 81,639
                  PlayStation 3 60 GB: 45,774
                  PlayStation 3 20 GB: 35,865
                  Ridge Racer 7: 21,654
                  Mobile Suit Gundam: Target In Sight: 21,309
                  Resistance: Fall of Man: 13,545
                  Genji: Days of the Blade: 8,766
                  Sega Golf Club: 1,410
                  66,684 games sold alongside 81,639 consoles Good job Sony.
                  Currently the only enjoyment I'm getting out of the next generation systems, both Microsoft and Sony are losing huge sums of money.
                  But really I hope Nintendo sells a huge amount of units due to I'm sick of the way both Microsoft and Sony have chosen to launch there respective systems.
                  Microsoft Quality control: What, Me worry?
                  Sony one compound word: Betamax.
                  Ok I'm done ranting/venting. (For now)
                  That's slightly wrong...but leave it to Kotaku to blog and run.

                  That's the unoffical .de report, which was an inital estimate.

                  The official one is 88,500 unit sold in stores. Without units sold in grey markets like auctions, gifts, prizes, demo units, etc.

                  So Sony shipped roughly give or take 90k to japan. Assuming there wasn't a big boom in online...which may or may not be significant.

                  And I'm not sure where Amazon.jp fits into all these, since they are both a retailer but strickly online.

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                  • #24
                    Re: More PS3 problems

                    Actually there's a number of differences between the 60GB and 20GB PS3s. Most importantly the one element that can't be upgraded, which is the Wi-Fi adapter that isn't in the 20GB version. There's also the flash drive that I believe is not in the 20GB version (though this can reportedly be upgraded with an accessory).


                    Icemage

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                    • #25
                      Re: More PS3 problems

                      I just wish Sony had waited another 6 months-a year to polish the system and manufacturing methods before launch, rushing a half baked product just because the 360 was already out is doing more harm than good in my opinion.

                      Besides, it's not like the 360 really matters. /shrug


                      But I guess they couldn't wait longer if they wanted to cash in on NA's christmas money and hype, people this side of the globe is impatient enough to drop the PS3 if it took another 6 months to a year to go out, even though the system's life will be of at least 5 years.
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                      • #26
                        Re: More PS3 problems

                        My roommate owns and Xbox 360. I hope the software companies don't make half assed games like they did for the 360 when it first came out. Madden and Tiger Woods were awful when they came out. Not to mention that NCAA Football was had just a tad more content than Madden. I could go on all day about how disappointing it was.

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                        • #27
                          Re: More PS3 problems

                          Originally posted by Icemage View Post
                          Actually there's a number of differences between the 60GB and 20GB PS3s. Most importantly the one element that can't be upgraded, which is the Wi-Fi adapter that isn't in the 20GB version. There's also the flash drive that I believe is not in the 20GB version (though this can reportedly be upgraded with an accessory).


                          Icemage
                          Guess I shoulda read up more...just for the most part, when you see the differences, all it shows is "60GB version and 20GB version." I suppose that's just cause it's easier than saying the other things in the versions. But despite that, I still feel that they should just release one type of system...because either way, if the 20GB buyers want the other stuff(at some point) they're going to have to spend the money, and probably more.

                          Thanks to Roguewolf for the sig. :D

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                          • #28
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                            The 20GB version was a direct response to consumer outcry about the high cost of the 60GB system that ought to have been standard. I don't like it either, but my read of the situation was that Sony introduced it last-minute at gunpoint.


                            Icemage

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                            • #29
                              Re: More PS3 problems

                              Originally posted by Icemage View Post
                              Actually there's a number of differences between the 60GB and 20GB PS3s. Most importantly the one element that can't be upgraded, which is the Wi-Fi adapter that isn't in the 20GB version. There's also the flash drive that I believe is not in the 20GB version (though this can reportedly be upgraded with an accessory).
                              Icemage
                              You mean the card reader? There is SD compact and memory stick flash. For all your digital needs.

                              memory stick might be useful for psp users, but others can be done through usb.

                              Alternatvely, you can put it on to the computer, then usb flash drive it. Most of us has one of those these days.

                              Wifi sony said is important for psp interconnectivity, as well as internet. And sony says there are a lot of surpises for psp and future of psp.

                              Like play games using psp, or play psp games using ps3, via wifi.

                              So it looks like the main reason except to future proof, is the 60gig version is good deal for psp users.

                              While those looking for a pure ps3 experiance get the 20gig.

                              For the record right now 2.5" HDD float around $80 for a 60gig. So if you're going to self upgrade, it's not that big of a rip off for just hdd upgrade...unless you want 160gigs...

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                              • #30
                                Re: More PS3 problems

                                I'm curious about the hardware internally. I'll be getting a 60GB unit anyway, but I wonder if it just uses a standard HDD. I know it's the first thing I'd want to change, and I'm not above going out and getting a 200GB drive to slide into my PS3 if I can get away with it.


                                Icemage

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