Sony Masters Time Travel

[Omni]

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Your console? it's not really yours as in the sense you're trying to make it sound. if it was your son, or your alma matter, or your art work, i'd understand but your console can be everyones console as well as every console can be your console and no one would lose. you are only choosing to align yourself with a side for the mere fact of having a side. so what happens when your console loses out on the developing? sorta how sony away many developers from nintendo. then what? is that console not your console anymore b/c it doesnt carry the games you like anymore? do you have a new console you side yourself with? its pointless. taskmage said, let anyone buy anything they want in peace.

i think this sort of competition shouldnt be complained about. it will push 1 of the many to be the innovator. while others follow and keep pace, another in the pack will push forward with something new and become the innovator. so on and so forth. in the end, it just brings us the consumer, bigger and better games and forms of entertainment. everyone wins.

[Haggai]

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You know, both Nintendo and Sony are copycats. They copied my father's technology back in the day when he was tilting the NES controller to get Mario over those big holes in world 8. Oh, and anytime he wanted to jump higher, he just had to jerk the controller up in a jumping fashion. It always helped him beat Bowser.

Well, thats what he seemed to think.

[WishMaster3K]

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Good commentary from those who are more down-to-earth.

However, I know that I am very opinionated, and when I have a strong stance on something, I tend to argue my side. Personally, I could care less if someone doesn't want to take a look at market dynamics, ownership, propietary limitations and an entire wealth of information available that can be used to determine the momentum of a given predictability path.

What irks me is when people make blatant accusations without taking this into account, and make generalizations based on personal preference.

Just like that friend I know we all have, that will claim "no one watches Sitcoms anymore" just because they and like 3 other people they asked don't watch. Keeping in mind that DVD releases of shows like F.R.I.E.N.D.S. are highly anticipated and appreciated.

Just like people claiming Sony is dying, when the pie charts, spreadsheets and bar graphs show that they are dominating 3/4 of the entire market.

That eclipses the margin that Nintendo held over Sega for 2 generations, and it has been a steady climb upwards ever since 1995. For people to just assume this or that and to bash something without realizing that no multi-billion corporation isn't going to make:
A) Stupid decisions at the drops of a hat and
B) Decisions based on the ranting and raving of fanboys
Is not more of an educated assumption.

I hold no allegiance to anyone, because I know damn well that whatever money I spent on and for my PS2 is less than a drop in the bucket for Sony. Conversely, if I were to stop supporting them altogether, Sony would neither care nor try to get me back.

The only thing that motivates me is what will be best for the next 5ish years of gaming. I'm not a multi console person, so I go with what works and what has worked.

Argumentatively, I should support Nintendo, but I also like RPGs, and I have a kagillion PS1 games (MGS and FF started the trend. . .), too many PS2 games, and I know that the PS3 will not only readily support those, but give me more prospects for the future of my gaming than what other companies are offering.

That's my logical reasoning. If I can't persuade you to invest in a PS3 for your own good as a gamer, then get the most out of whatever you intend to purchase. We are all grown and we all have our own personal preferences, so as an equal, it's not fair of me to be an asshole about someone's own choice they made of their own accord.

But please.

At the very least, examine more than just the fanboyish-inspired angles.

[Macht]

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That's kinda out there, Macht, even for you >.>

Right there, don't know what I was thinking when I posted that. I might of been in a work induced haze... Yeah that's it.

Don't know can probably find a conspiracy theory in there somewere.


As far as the console dispute, I'm just one that loves technology. To say that Sony has no inovative bone in their body is silly, their creation of the cell technology is extreemly unique and very inovative. Then like good business men they bought out new technology they saw to be of an advantage to incorporate into their devices via the Blu-Ray.

As far as taking this tangent to make a controller of a likeness to the Wii, considering a patent from like 1999 existed show evidence that they had at some point considered it. Now if it's just that they developed it to a very workable degree or if they did in responce to the chatter that the "Wii" got for releasing this idea is debatable.

All of this with consoles is just turning into larger versions of Betamax vs. VHS. In the words of the geek collector from Cowboy Bebop on one of the near ending episodes stated, "The smarter people knew the power Betamax had, but unfortunatly VHS won out due to better marketing strategy".

In either case none of the companies really care about the customer unless the customers choose sides and create loyalties. That helps the company to see if their actions are good or bad, if they are paying attention to the customers. Which they definatly will when they see their loyal's are not spending it with them.

[kuu]

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Any corporation and more such mega corporations, think very very ahead. From wacky ideas that never took off, to sane ideas that fail miserably.

And in the middle of it all, lots of patients, to make sure no one steal them.

Anything as simply as motion sensing...is stupid really. All you need is a laser pointer to figure that out. Or touch screen, etc.

The fact hat sony put motion senser in thier controlly isn't copying, it's just defending.

It's business not innovation.

Nintendo: we need something to get people away from graphics and multimedia: have people market this to heck, it's looks fun, just make it x10.

Sony: bah they're stealing all our thunder, fine, put something in to curb it.

No one is innovating here, just marketing. We don't even know if it'll work. I for one will not wave my controller around. Just like pressure sensitive buttons on dual shock(they exist to this day) was marketed the heck out of it from ps1->ps2.

Touch sensitive buttons wasn't innovatative either, it was tought to be an obvious advancement in controlling, so how is motion sensing? Anyone that reads can take the idea and patient it(and did)

How quickly we forget about that option, cause we're just not trained enough to conrol out strengths, so they stop making games for it.

[WishMaster3K]

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And is it just me or does Microsoft seem to be rearranging the market?

On one hand, due to MS, Sony had a direct competitor, since it is now obvious that Nintendo is in a different branch of the market, untouched. This is good because it inspires growth and so forth. If it was just Nintendo or Sony running rampant over the other. . .Well, we should all be old enough to recall how one sided the 8 bit and 16 bit "wars" were.

The 32 bit era brought dynamics to the table, because it showed how important 3rd party developers are. . .

But anyway, my point is that one the other hand, Microsoft seems to be doing everything in thier power to CONTRAST Sony, while not admiting that they very much emulate them.

The whole thing about them supporting HD-DVD seems childishly spiteful to me, because the brightest technicians can agree that BDROM is superior. Their comments about everyone should be getting a 360 AND A Wii are so ambiguous. . . Nintendo fans will blindly adhere to this without reading between the lines and ultimately, despite the fact that their involvement in the Video Game industry has spurned movements in many directions, I can't help but feel that Microsoft is giving us Roller Blades but shooting us in one foot.

It seems that maybe Microsoft is the necessary evil? Well, I know that when I buy a PS3, no matter if BluRay wins or loses, Developers still have the option to make games on BDROM, allowing for spanning worlds and such.

I also know that I'll be getting a PS3, so I'll have a good generation and a half of gaming.

But for people supporting the Stand Alone HD, what happens if HD DVD loses? Where do these people turn to? I don't think a company like Microsoft, in an industry where they aren't the end-all-be-all, realizes that the decisions that they make that affect millions of supporters ripple downwards and have lasting effects.

How many people are S.O.L. with their 4 year old Xbox's that don't have games being released? While MS has made great improvements in their emulation, there are still only a handful of games compatible (well, there are only a handful of games you'd buy on the XB360 anyway).

I was actually a supported of the 360 when it was unvieled. I'm not sure what happened between now and last years E3, but I think it was something to do with me having a limited budget, MGS4 and the potential that gifted developing studios could squeeze from the PS3 inner juices.

Our console choices can't be treated like run of the mill DVD players or TV sets we pick up. Hell, they can't even be treated like PCs we buy. Those things have differing shelf lifes, but with consoles, they are investments in entertainment on a different level than that of other consumer electronics. . .

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I love you, Kuu. TY for saying Nintendo is NOT innovative.

(what was the last new franchise that sold as well as their staples?)

[Blood Red Poet]

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Stop getting off-topic.

Sony stole from Nintendo.

[WishMaster3K]

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Edit:

Nevermind. No need for this comment.

[kuu]

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Stop getting off-topic.

Sony stole from Nintendo.

I patient "Sony Stole from Nintendo" the quote, and will start publishing it in local non-tanglable newspapers, mass market imaginary publicity blitz, and put it inside the console called "phantom".

I patient it first and it's a creative and innovative one too. Who would of ever thunk to use it.

You are now not allow to use that quote, because I "thought" it up first.

Anyone care to patient "Nintendo stole rom Sony" ?


No really, there are some very innovative ideas, that are not very market hyped, some opinionated, some thatare just downright true.

I like the magilock from Apple's new laptops. Simple, creative, bunch of bugs, but hey, that's what happens when you create something.

Then there are some of the more obvious ways that are definitelly not innovative, and just patient whore it before everyone else that thought it was too obvious. Try to look up, who created the internet.

Looking at wii... look at the power glove, or even the light gun, heck even pinball!

Pinball! bang the machine, so you the ball inside will move! There's motion sensing for you.

[Blood Red Poet]

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Stop being a douchebag, BRP

I do believe this would warrent a warrning? Or is your name not BRP so you can get away with it.

Kuu, your post sounds like mumbo-jumbo to me, I don't understand your use of "patient". Do you mean tolerate? But to the point, do you disagree with Sony stealing from Nintendo on the motion sensor thing? I've explained it already how it is extremely obvious they did.

[WishMaster3K]

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Patient x3

/slap

It's Patent!!! Don't make me renounce my affection for you >.> Stop browsing DIVD whilst at work.

Yah, and what about BootCamp, while we're on the topic of Apple doing stuff. I wonder if there is any legal ramifications for them to get sued over that. . . Ultimately, it's going to sell more copies of XP, but idk, that's a different topic altogether.

It'll be interesting to see the reaction once games actually come out. I suppose for games like GT4, force feedback will be missed, but there is always the Steering Wheel. . .

I honestly won't miss rumble, because I turned it off to prolong the batter life of my Logitech Cordless Action Controller anyway.

[Blood Red Poet]

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Oh I see, he is just speaking gibberish. You 'ought to learn how patents work before you comment on how they work. You can't patent a series of words. You could possibily trademark them, but it'll be hard if they are not very selective.

Thanks WishMaster. I usually don't care what people online have to say about me, but you just changed my life. Thank you for prejuding information about my life you could never know and thank you for giving me the suggestion.

[WishMaster3K]

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Edit:

Nevermind this post as well. . .

[Taskmage]

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I honestly won't miss rumble, because I turned it off to prolong the batter life of my Logitech Cordless Action Controller anyway.

{True Strike} love that controller. Imo, the only worthwhile implementation of the rumble feature ever was Rez.

[Blood Red Poet]

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MGS4 had to throw out a lot of its production because of the rumblepack being lost.