PS3 in '07??? Say it ain't so!

[Caspian]

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Sure sony will take a hit at first, but in the long run they would profit." And that's deffinitely true. They would more than make back the loss on the initial system in no time I'm sure. I just don't see under 500 happening given the hardware and the age of their target audiance :/

I'm guessing/hoping for $500. They could easily charge that much and still convince a lot of people that they're getting one hell of a deal, especially when regular BD players are going for upwards of $1500.

OT, but I wouldn't consider the new MGS to be an RPG, unless they radically changed the gameplay w/o telling me. Its always been something of an action stealth imo, but has enough to it to draw in all sorts of gamers. A great story for RPG fans, enough shooting for action fans, and enough stealth and other things for the kinda puzzle type fan. Definately looking forward to this one, though I should probably get around to beating 3...died once to the sniper asshole and quit playing.

[Pai Pai Master]

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I demand that everyone buys MGS3 Subsistence and join me online

And yeah, I would totally buy a PS3 for $500. So would anyone interested in Blu-Ray. But for Sony to convince most of the gaming public to buy a PS3 for $500 would be their hardest obstacle. Hopefully they won't have to do that, and will release it for around $399.

[Caspian]

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Yeah, I remember them saying last year before 360 came out that it would be like 6 or 700, but it came across a lot more like posturing to get Microsoft to sit back on their heels and not worry so much.

[Xyphere]

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But I mean... KH2...Grandia III... Final Fantasy XII, MGS: Subsistence (sorry not sure what Okami is but you sound impressed so)...Okami.

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/689/689243p1.html

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You know, I'm kind of wondering if I should preorder my PS3 or not... I mean afterall, remember what happened with the 360? Some people who preordered in SUMMER got screwed out of getting one.

[Caspian]

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Ok, this is OT, but since its been mentioned here as being a big one that will keep PS2 used for a while, MGS: Subsistence. Gamestop had it listed as MGS3: Subsistence. Now, wasn't Snake Eater part 3? How can they both be part 3? Unless its another one of those remakes where its the exact same game with like two extra things in it.

[Pai Pai Master]

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MGS3: Subsistence is the rerelease of Snake Eater, much like there was Metal Gear Solid 2: The Sons of Liberty and MGS2: Substance.

Subsistence contains the original Snake Eater game, and a revised version with more content, including a new reworked 3rd-person camera system which will be used in Metal Gear Solid 4. The 2nd disc of Subsistence includes an entirely separate game, Metal Gear Online. The very first online entry in the MGS series covers a variety of up-to-8-player game modes, such as Sneaking Mission, Deathmatch, and Capture the Frog. The third disc, only included in the special edition of Subsistence, includes all the MGS3 custcenes, re-edited to play like an entire movie.

[Caspian]

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Ah, very cool, thanks pai.

[Macht]

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With the debate of the PS3's release and what-not there is something you can reference that Sony had done that was very resent which indicates that you can not really guess what Sony does or what the pricing will be.

That is simply the PSP, caught all the review sites by surprise and even the analysts were wrong. There very few that suggested the PSP may be $400 the major consencous they stated was it would be $500-$700. Sony showed them good when the price turned out to be only $200.

Granted though that Sony's financial end may not be that impressive, but what big company you look at ever really has any that looks impressive. Simply because 1 person decides to it not worthy to be putting their $10,000 into there are others who will still. Besides that Sony is ranked 123 on the Forbes Global 2000, that is since Feb. 28, 2006.

Forbes takes in many different things for consideration to the company as well, lot more then Fortune does (Considering that Fortune only does US based Companies it isn't getting the whole picture either). So seems like they are still in there alright even with what ever financial problems they may of had. Though I haven't really been tracking them so can't say if anything funny seems to be present there, in either case point is disbute of their financial for their decision on when they release it is just moot.

[kuu]

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Sony is a mega-corp, with fingers in all aspects. They can't fall, at least not in any small time period. They may slowly dwindle, that's another issue, but fall they will not.

Given that, their economic powers are staggering, totally encompassing MS's own power.

Having money doesn't mean you have the infrastructure. If that were the case, banks would be make a killing.

They can and probably are worse then M$'s monopoly leverging, just that they haven't bullied anyone really hard.

Every Peice of PS3 has multi-section advantages to consider. Everything from BR standard, to Entertainment, to Cell mass-production (They are putting cell in most future devices, like DV cam's) to the HDTV you buy for PS3.

Sony is pretty much pro class business, where you may not like them, but they do everything with expertise, style, and precision.

On that note, Blue-Ray players anounced for May 28, 2006. Dev conference tomorrow, but things seem to be slowly forming into a picture.

[Pai Pai Master]

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Destination PlayStation began today, and whatever reports that have leaked claim that PSP and PS2 are the focus of the event, which is not surprising.

And yes, Devstation 2006 begins tomorrow. Sony will be discussing Playstation 3 directly with developers, with subjects ranging from CELL to graphics to networking. For more info, check out http://www.devstation.scee.com/.

[Pai Pai Master]

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Just a little update, for those of you who may not catch up on this kinda news.

Koei's president mentioned in a press conference that Sony will be holding its own conference for PS3 on March 15th. Sony did not deny this, but stated that it would be meant for third-party developers, and not open to the public.

Almost simultaneously, this week's issue of Famitsu Weekly Magazine (you know, the one that gave Final Fantasy XII a perfect 40/40 review ) mentioned that details on a next-gen console would be revealed "very soon." The phrase "very soon" usually means within the next week or two for Famitsu.

It has been confirmed by multiple sources that SCE Worldwide's president Phil Harrison will reveal new details about the Playstation 3 console during his GDC Press Conference on March 22nd.

Other rumours have been circulating and disrupting any sort of peace we may have with this. One source says that a Taiwanese company called Compeq will begin mass-production of PS3 circuit boards in June, while SCE Europe's president David Reeves was just quoted for saying that the PS3 is still "on track," which contradict's Sony representatives who earlier this month stated that the PS3 is still headed for a Spring launch, at least in Japan.

And while I may not be as reliable, I'd like to say that it officially looks like November is launch month for the PS3 in the US. Ubi Soft has revealed their 2006-2007 release schedule, and both Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 5 and Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter are scheduled for PS3 release in November. I don't see it being any earlier simply because I doubt they'd hold off on releasing a port from the Xbox 360 (Advanced Warfighter) any later than the launch month. However, this schedule is of course not set in stone, and they could just be scheduling GRAW for November because, like many other developers, they don't know when exactly the PS3 will be released in the US.

[Josh]

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Im still waiting for the ps3 to come out but when i heard that it may not be out till x mas or maybe end of the year I did not like that at all coast is kinda high but id buy it still Im all for playstation and sony i love them but I will go buy a Xbox 360...... if i dont hear better news of when Ps3 will be out in stores >< I hear it would coast about 900 dollars to make them from all the parts in it but im sure sony will bring that down alot and sell at a loss and have there games make the real profits What do you all think of Xbox 360 im not that big of a fan of them at all but id like to do FFXI with it i been with ps2 since NA release.

[Draco Dagon]

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Whatever, regardless the PS3 is going to own the market again I bet.

Well, that's a given. Microsoft may be recovering, but they've made far too many mistakes already to ensure control of the market in this generation. An early start turned out to be terrible publicity and not much of an early start at all, a complete lack of true support for Backwards Compatibility, and a staggered flow of quality titles hasn't been too good for the Xbox 360 so far. It shocks me that Moore has been quoted to say that the original Xbox "didn't matter," and the Xbox 360 is the one that matters. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they say the same thing next generation. That mentality isn't a very good thing to share with your fans.

Honestly, I'd say that Nintendo's a bigger competitor with Sony than Microsoft is. The DS proved that Nintendo has plenty of fight in them to stand up against the Playstation brand name, and I think that their incredible innovation with the Revolution can continue to do so in the next console generation.

Despite Nintendo's surefire approach to innovation and targeting of the "non-gamer" crowd, Sony has enough momentum from the PS2 domination and sheer developer support to ensure a quick and easy victory over the Xbox 360, the Revolution, and the Phantom. But, the Phantom will probably crash and burn the moment it makes it to retail, if it does at all.

I think Nintendo knows what they're doing ('cept for their new remote-control controller)which is why they're a bigger competitor than Microsoft.

There's no way it will be under 500. I mean if Sega Saturn retailed at over 400 at launch, PS3 has -reason- to.

Me? I couldn't be happier with PS3's delay. Gives me more time to finish up the life of PS2. Adjust with my 360. Let my wallet chill a bit, snag revolution. Then, then buy the big kahuna which will no way be under 500 lol.

I still anticipate it launching at $500.

Btw, folks, obviously Merryl&Lynch has no idea what they speak on concerning its release date. (Besides, their specialty is stocks and investment, not computers mind you!!!) It was only Japan that the PS3 would be released in Q1-2006, which has yet to really start. The Sony development team (or, whoever it was) only has hinted at a Q4-2006 release date in America otherwise.

Didn't the Saturn launch at $600? A dual-processor game console at that time must have been more expensive than $400.

Sony's already stated in Famitsu that the PS3 will retail for $399 or less. Whether they stick to that or not, I'm sure it'll be close.

I think Saturn did launch at about $600-700...

Most of you don't even have a clue about Sony's own financial health.

They're loan ratings haven't improved since the last time I put $10,000 into the company purchasing stocks and what have you during the PSX launch. Moody ratings (What the financial industry uses as standard) aren't hot for a high profile company like Sony.

Okay, who the hell are you? Certainly not a casual gamer.

With the debate of the PS3's release and what-not there is something you can reference that Sony had done that was very resent which indicates that you can not really guess what Sony does or what the pricing will be.

That is simply the PSP, caught all the review sites by surprise and even the analysts were wrong. There very few that suggested the PSP may be $400 the major consencous they stated was it would be $500-$700. Sony showed them good when the price turned out to be only $200.

$250 actually.

Granted though that Sony's financial end may not be that impressive, but what big company you look at ever really has any that looks impressive. Simply because 1 person decides to it not worthy to be putting their $10,000 into there are others who will still. Besides that Sony is ranked 123 on the Forbes Global 2000, that is since Feb. 28, 2006.

The stock market isn't about a company's earnings per-se, but about expectations. A company that misses their expectations, even by a dollar, is going to lose stock.

I'm still expecting a Fall-Winter release date at $500-$600. I think Sony will intentionally release it near Christmas and will have a "Christmas pricing" of $300-$400, that way they can then raise their pricings after Christmas season without anyone noticing, because people will know that $500-$600 is its price.

[Wiseman40]

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You never know... Some people report this stuff so the stock price drops... then they buy a ton of stock and wait for it to skyrocket when the product launches.

...illegal by the way

[Draco Dagon]

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You never know... Some people report this stuff so the stock price drops... then they buy a ton of stock and wait for it to skyrocket when the product launches.

...illegal by the way

Indeed.

I think the Enron scandal has alot to do with that, I'm not sure as I don't pay attention to it.