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  • Re: Magic: The Gathering

    It looks like they're reprinting Goblin Bombardment. I'm excited to see that be utterly ridiculous.
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      Hmm.. Terramorphic Expanse is coming back with Evolving Wilds already in M2015? That's going to make for an interesting format for multicolor decks, with 8 fetchlands.


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        Not really since the lands come in tapped. They might see some fringe constructed play, but they're too slow for aggro decks which will be using Mana Confluence instead while control decks are going to much prefer to have the never ending filter of scry lands to ensure they can constantly dig for the answers they need just from putting a land into play.

        No one is going to be running 8 of them in a deck unless the new block has some truly format warping weirdness hidden up its sleeve. If I had to guess I'd say it's getting printed in Khans to support playing wedges in limited.
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          The new 3-color lands are interesting. Sucks they aren't shocklands but oh well (makes me wonder if they got the balls to print trio-lands? Probably not, Ravnica's duo's were OP enough).
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          • Re: Magic: The Gathering

            Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post
            It looks like they're reprinting Goblin Bombardment. I'm excited to see that be utterly ridiculous.
            Wait. Didn't they print a card last year for the explicit purpose of not reprinting Goblin Bombardment?

            It's stuff like this that actively discourages me from ever playing this game again.
            Originally posted by Armando
            No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
            Originally posted by Armando
            Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
            Originally posted by Taskmage
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              I don't understand why that bothers you. Their entire design strategy is geared around Standard. For the stuff they had last year they clearly thought Goblin Bombardment was a bad fit, but the upcoming sets will be ok with it running around.
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                You know perhaps even more than I do how dumb of a card it is.

                At any rate, to say that they design around even Standard would be stretching it a bit. They seem to have a tunnel vision focus on limited these days (which, as the runaway success of Conspiracy highlights, will only get magnified in the coming years), and I'm not even remotely a good enough drafter to judge that particular format. (Theros Sealed, on the other hand, was an open book of Green, with maybe some Blue and/or Black.) Fact of the matter remains that I doubt WotC's ability to make an enjoyable Constructed format lately, much less an affordable one.
                Originally posted by Armando
                No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
                Originally posted by Armando
                Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
                Originally posted by Taskmage
                GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

                REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

                GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

                THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
                Originally posted by Taskmage
                However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
                Matthew 16:15

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                  I'm not really sure how you'd go about making an affordable constructed environment.
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                  • Re: Magic: The Gathering

                    Major, major changes afoot in Standard tournament block rotation and set release.

                    Metamorphosis | MAGIC: THE GATHERING

                    After 2015, MTG Core sets will no longer be released.
                    At the same time, all new set blocks will be 2 sets instead of 3, and Standard will switch to a 18 month rotation before blocks rotate out.

                    This is what will comprise Standard tournament format, moving forward:




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                    • Re: Magic: The Gathering

                      Beat me to it damn it I was about to post that as I just finished reading it on FB.


                      Great changes, though with 2 rotations a year that's going to make Standard more expensive to compete in.
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                        I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, Lorwyn and Shadowmoor were a ton of fun. On the other hand, this feels a lot like they just took Standard and shook vigorously while hoping for the best. It could go either way really.

                        I'll miss the core sets serving as yearly milestones, I kind of liked that.
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                        • Re: Magic: The Gathering

                          Originally posted by Icemage View Post
                          Major, major changes afoot in Standard tournament block rotation and set release.

                          Metamorphosis | MAGIC: THE GATHERING
                          My take from this: this will improve specifically the game of Standard format Magic substantially on several different fronts, while exacerbating the main reasons that keep me from playing.

                          Blocks are only usable for 3/4 as long, starting with the "block" consisting of Khans and Dewey. Furthermore, assuming my previous statement about the improved gameplay to be true, then Magic's already absurd popularity growth in recent years will only skyrocket even faster, making it financially even more ludicrously inaccessible from the sheer demand.
                          Last edited by Yellow Mage; 08-25-2014, 10:07 PM.
                          Originally posted by Armando
                          No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
                          Originally posted by Armando
                          Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
                          Originally posted by Taskmage
                          GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

                          REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

                          GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

                          THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
                          Originally posted by Taskmage
                          However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
                          Matthew 16:15

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                            Originally posted by Yellow Mage View Post
                            My take from this: this will improve specifically the game of Standard format Magic substantially on several different fronts, while exacerbating the main reasons that keep me from playing.

                            Blocks are only usable for 3/4 as long, starting with the "block" consisting of Khans and Dewey. Furthermore, assuming my previous statement about the improved gameplay to be true, then Magic's already absurd popularity growth in recent years will only skyrocket even faster, making it financially even more ludicrously inaccessible from the sheer demand.
                            I'm not sure I agree. Core sets have only been usable for ~15 months, so this is actually more helpful for newbies than veterans. I also think 18 months is "long enough" for cards to assert themselves in Standard.

                            It does have some other effects though; main sets are going to have to have more typical utility because there's no Core set to anchor the mainstays like direct damage, counterspells, creature removal, etc. There's a risk of the sets becoming too watered down as a result (see: Mercadian Masques block for a good example of this).


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                            • Re: Magic: The Gathering

                              It also means no more random nonsensical reprints/jank like Slilvers coming back out of the blue for no reason. And I love me some slivers but seeing them in M14 and M15 was just a big "huh?!" for me.
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                                Originally posted by Icemage View Post
                                I'm not sure I agree. Core sets have only been usable for ~15 months, so this is actually more helpful for newbies than veterans. I also think 18 months is "long enough" for cards to assert themselves in Standard.
                                You missed the memo where Core sets are being done away with completely, then. (Maro has further confirmed that this will not dumb down the complexity of future sets, while giving them more leeway to reprint whatever they feel like.)

                                Also, I care less about a card being able to "assert itself in Standard" so much as being a good use of my money. 18 months instead of 24 ensures that I only get 3/4 the chronological value of any card from a Fall set (and, strictly speaking, 5/7 the value from a Winter set)--and I'll reiterate, I do not expect the prices of such cards to go even anywhere but up any time remotely soon.
                                Originally posted by Armando
                                No one at Square Enix has heard of Occam's Razor.
                                Originally posted by Armando
                                Nintendo always seems to have a legion of haters at the wings ready to jump in and prop up straw men about hardware and gimmicks and casuals.
                                Originally posted by Taskmage
                                GOD IS MIFFED AT AMERICA

                                REPENT SINNERS OR AT LEAST GIVE A NONCOMMITTAL SHRUG

                                GOD IS AMBIVALENT ABOUT FURRIES

                                THE END IS COMING ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN GOD GETS AROUND TO IT
                                Originally posted by Taskmage
                                However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
                                Matthew 16:15

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