Magic: The Gathering

[Firewind]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

Remember that Extort does stack. Even in single player, having 4 Extort creatures out, tapping 4 mana will cause a total of 12 damage. That is some pretty crazy shit right there. Sure there are better strategies out there but given how cheap the damage costs when you have multiple sources of Extort, it can be kind of crazy. Orzhov also can still go Tokens since Vault of the Archangel won't be getting rotated out until the next expansion.

Boros didn't need anything extra. RDW is already powerful enough and Boros Charm gave it a powerful way to finish a game.

Gruul again didn't need that much since it was already solid midrange and splashing Black just makes it awesome. Remember that G/R already has stuff like Huntmaster, Thragtusk and the shitload of Red removal and Green ramp that is out there. Did they really need more?

Dimir got some nice additions but as much as I love Dimir, I doubt anyone will leave their precious Snapcasters and Delvers for it.

Simic...I guess it adds some more choices to a Bant strategy? I dunno you got me there. Do people still play Bant?

[cidbahamut]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

Remember that Extort does stack. Even in single player, having 4 Extort creatures out, tapping 4 mana will cause a total of 12 damage. That is some pretty crazy shit right there. Sure there are better strategies out there but given how cheap the damage costs when you have multiple sources of Extort, it can be kind of crazy. Orzhov also can still go Tokens since Vault of the Archangel won't be getting rotated out until the next expansion.

Is that how it works? It looks like it should function similar to something like Iron Star, where you have multiple triggers off of one spell, but you still have to pay the cost for each trigger.

[Malacite]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

The way I read it is you can pay W/B once per spell for each Extort permanent you control.


The official rulings will be up soon enough if they aren't already.


EDIT: You say they didn't "need" anything, but I would have loved to see Battalion and some of the other mechanics be much more functional. Plus, what about when ISD and M13 rotate out? The cards they've added in GTR are horribly weak on their own, and while it's always good to see how diff sets mix, ISD was crafted in such a great way as it stands out well enough on its own. This is not the case at all with GTR (RTR on the other hand is very solid).

[Firewind]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

Yeah I really hope you have to pay it once for each Extort permanent, otherwise it would be pretty insane.

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

For each instance of Extort, whenever you cast a spell, you may pay {W/B}. If you do for that particular instance of Extort, that particular instance of Extort makes each opponent lose 1 life and you gain life equal to the total life lost. So, if you have 4 instances of Extort on board and pay five White mana to cast, say, a Boros Elite, each opponent will lose a total of 4 life and you will gain life equal to the total amount of life lost.

There is the temptation to be all knee-jerk about Extort's multiplayer implications, but the truth of the matter is, multiplayer is a completely different ball game. Any hardcore extortionists are going to be pounded into oblivion by everybody else quick fast and in a hurry.

At any rate, Extort isn't exactly exemplary of the evil that is W/B. It's subtly diabolical, but not quite a means to an end. Now, Obzedat, Ghost Council, on the other hand . . .

[Yellow Mage]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

So people aren't using Obzedat yet. Naya Humans and Dega Aristocrats are apparently all the rage right now. Part of me wants to say to give it time, since metagames tend to be most aggro-focused (they're arguably the easiest deck type to junction new cards into) the month after set release.

The rest of me is looking at Standard right now and going "nuts, it's crazy fast." Even before Gatecrash, Standard-legal decks were arguably Modern-worthy; Gatecrash just removed any doubt.

On the bright side, for that very reason, if there were ever a good time to get into Standard, it would be now (and arguably all throughout Return block's tenure within it, to boot).

On another note, The Dragon's Maze Prerelease : Daily MTG : Magic: The Gathering looks like it's going to be awesome. At least, for me. You're telling me that I get the pack marked with my favorite guild, and I automatically get a 75% chance of also getting a Guild Booster from one of my next three favorites, who were all in RTR instead of GTC? Where do I sign up?

ADD: Well . . . crap. It seems that Cockatrice was taken down just recently. D:

I was already missing playing with you guys, and it seems I won't get to do so again.

[Taskmage]

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ADD: Well . . . crap. It seems that Cockatrice was taken down just recently. D:

I was already missing playing with you guys, and it seems I won't get to do so again.

[Malacite]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

Damn it, so they got found out then?

Well it was fun while it lasted.

[Firewind]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

New server: play.woogerworks.com
Port: 4747

There is no save deck to server option so I would back up all decks onto dropbox or something.

Panic is over after 2 seconds of google searching for cockatrice servers not yet pulled down by Hasbro.

[cidbahamut]

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Seriously? SERIOUSLY!?

[Armando]

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Panic is over after 2 seconds of google searching for cockatrice servers not yet pulled down by Hasbro.

Don't you mean Wizards of the Coast? Or did Hasbro buy MtG?

Also, if Cockatrice is something you can install, worst case scenario I could set up a server for you guys if they keep getting shut down.

[Taskmage]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

WotC became a subsidiary of Hasbro in '99.

[Malacite]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

Really? Wasn't aware of that.

Huh, so does this mean we might see MLP as a joke set at some point like Unglued?

[Yellow Mage]

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There is no save deck to server option so I would back up all decks onto dropbox or something.

Never even considered doing either of those things in the first place (good freaking thing, too). Dropbox doesn't sound like a terrible idea, though, if it somehow becomes disadvantageous to just have the decks on my computer.

[Firewind]

Re: Magic: The Gathering

It only really minor inconveniences me since I like to mess around building decks on my laptop and mostly play Magic on my PC for voice comms.

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It only really minor inconveniences me since I like to mess around building decks on my laptop and mostly play Magic on my PC for voice comms.