The most important video you will ever see

[Raydeus]

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It's not really about a catastrophe happening in the next 10 years or anything like that. It's about the unsustainability of it all and the illusion of the "benefits" of growth.

And about democracy I'm not saying democracy is bad, on the contrary, what I'm saying is that the more people there are the more diluted democracy becomes.

But like I said, you'll see what I'm getting at by watching the videos. Because I certainly can't explain it better than Professor Bartlett.

[Mhurron]

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If anything, watching Idiocracy told me that I absolutely NEED to reproduce.

Ya, um, hm. Something about lifestyles closing doors or, ya.

[Yellow Mage]

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Ya, um, hm. Something about lifestyles closing doors or, ya.

He could always become a donor of some sort.

Anyway, on the thread discussion (the videos are tl;dw for the time being), human overpopulation has been something worrying me in the back of my mind for a while now. All the rest of human history aside, the world population has more than doubled (from more than 3 billion) over the past 50 years alone. Some of you have seen the population increase by more than 2 billion in your lifetime alone. That this doesn't seem to phase TM is somewhat startling, particularly considering that the world was still basically being colonized in 1798.

Barring some other human mass-tragedy unrelated to a lack of resources, the best thing that could potentially be done about this is to begin investing in terramorphing some other place, simply to have the necessary space to expand in to. Of course, I was more than miffed when Obama ordered to essentially nix NASA, natch.

[Taskmage]

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That this doesn't seem to phase TM is somewhat startling, particularly considering that the world was still basically being colonized in 1798.

Barring some other human mass-tragedy unrelated to a lack of resources, the best thing that could potentially be done about this is to begin investing in terramorphing some other place, simply to have the necessary space to expand in to.

Running out of space. Right. Drive from Dallas to Los Angeles sometime. 90% of the drive you will see vast, uninhabited, undeveloped plains. If you were concerned about food or energy production I'd understand, but the idea that we're so low on standing room that we should start considering spaces that don't even support life is frankly laughable.

[Yellow Mage]

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Oh? I was under the impression that food production was intrinsically linked to available space, which is why we currently have the horrors of factory farms.

[Armando]

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The food production problem can be easily solved if it becomes a major crisis, it's just that most people won't like the solution - less meat. Then again, the meat industry is having some pretty heavy negative impacts on the environment, so we'll probably need to do something about that (either less meat or less harmful production methods) long before a world food crisis could start.

The energy problem though, that one's troubling. We need energy for everything, including making use of the vast and undeveloped plains between Dallas and Los Angeles.

[Taskmage]

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Oh? I was under the impression that food production was intrinsically linked to available space, which is why we currently have the horrors of factory farms.

No, we have tons of space. It's just that it's more efficient and economical to distribute food to and manage waste from a ridiculously large number of cattle at once if you pack them into the smallest possible space. If you wanted to raise the cows on natural feed in an environment where their waste could be processed by nature, you'd have to cultivate and irrigate huge swaths of land, which is logistically much more difficult than sending corn meal down chutes and letting their feces and wastewater roll down into giant fetid reservoirs.

... I digress. It's a horrible problem, but not one related to available land.

[Yellow Mage]

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Ah. Thanks for clearing that up, then.

Will get to watching the videos some time. Eventually.

Not at all today, though. I've stuff to do. >_>