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**Etra** · 05-08-2013, 07:46 PM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by Taskmage View Post

Terrorists, regardless of origin, think it's ok to resort to inhuman methods because they are ultimately on the side of good, and so does Mezlo.

This revised statement is what I agree with (in an acknowledging way. Not agreeing with the terrorism itself.)

**cidbahamut** · 05-08-2013, 07:50 PM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Hey Mezlo, do you know what an anti-paladin is? Yeah, shit's kinda like that.

**Feba** · 05-08-2013, 09:44 PM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by Fliegar View Post

In other news, as of me posting this, Feba is at 9999 posts! :D

Am I?

**Aksannyi** · 05-08-2013, 10:29 PM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by Feba View Post

Am I?

I suspect you'd be closer to 15k if posts in the off-topic forums counted. Makes me wonder how many I actually have since I hardly post in FF threads anymore.

**Taskmage** · 05-09-2013, 05:06 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by Feba View Post

Am I?

... and you still are. Is that as high as the counter goes?

**Firewind** · 05-09-2013, 05:14 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by cidbahamut View Post

Hey Mezlo, do you know what an anti-paladin is? Yeah, shit's kinda like that.

Are you trying to cause an alignment debate with real people Cid?

**Aksannyi** · 05-09-2013, 05:29 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by Taskmage View Post

... and you still are. Is that as high as the counter goes?

I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that posts in the off topic forums don't count toward your post count. I always wondered why, since post counts are so silly to even pay any attention to.

**DakAttack** · 05-09-2013, 05:35 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

That was when we could change people's forum titles. I think it was to prevent abuse.

**Taskmage** · 05-09-2013, 07:28 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post

I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that posts in the off topic forums don't count toward your post count. I always wondered why, since post counts are so silly to even pay any attention to.

Oh yeah, right. Pretty sure that's still the case. I could change it if anyone cared and/or wanted to see post counts skyrocket.

**Mezlo** · 05-09-2013, 08:08 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Originally posted by Taskmage View Post

Mezlo is ok with doing whatever is necessary to save human lives, even if that means performing intense questioning techniques to people that have made their choice to take human lives.

ftfy

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Doesn't have to be just terrorists. Let's say its a serial killer. He has killed 10 young girls and 3 are still missing where authorities believe he was the prime suspect. Police find him and take him in. He admits the other 3 girls were taken by him and are being help captive somewhere. We should imploy any means necessary to ge the information out of this admitted killer to get those 3 other girls home safely. ANYTHING. What if one of those 3 young girls was your daughter?

**Taskmage** · 05-09-2013, 08:51 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

"Any means necessary" is the slipperiest, slopiest phrase in the English language. Coercive methods need to have strict conditions and scrutiny placed on them or they themselves will degrade human life. Torture, to say nothing about its disputed value in obtaining true and valuable information, is never morally justified. Moreover, before we start treating people like criminals, we need to have strong evidence. "Suspected terrorist" could mean as little as "accused of terrorism" or "emailed the wrong person." The U.S. Government has been lax in obtaining even probable cause against possible terrorists (e.g. TSA searches in violation of the 4th amendment) much less incriminating evidence that proves them guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

**Mezlo** · 05-09-2013, 08:59 AM

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Taskmage;983804 "Suspected terrorist"

Well I stand corrected. I don't condone using those techniques for "suspected terrorists." I'm talking about people that have taken lives admittedly, not suspectedly. I missed the notion of "suspected" in Don Cherry's intial statement. Those that have admitted to taking lives, I support all means necessary to gain information from them that can save lives in the future.

**Taskmage** · 05-09-2013, 09:02 AM

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No, your second favorite Canadian was the first.

Originally posted by Mezlo View Post

DON CHERRY, Canadian Hockey Commentator for CBC Television, was asked on a local live radio talk show what he thought about the allegations of torture of suspected terrorists. His reply prompted his ejection from the studio, but to thunderous applause from the audience.

**Mezlo** · 05-09-2013, 09:05 AM

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I was correcting my post. Read above.

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And now he's my third favorite, Celine Dion is now number 2.

**Taskmage** · 05-09-2013, 09:09 AM

Re: Official Bored at Work / Off-Topic Chat Thread II

Yeah, there was a traffic jam of edits.

I stand by the statement that torture is neither morally acceptable nor even necessarily effective even in the case of convicted criminals. I take it as axiomatic, and I'm perfectly happy to walk away from this agreeing to disagree.