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    (AP) – 6 hours ago

    The Associated Press: Arizona Rep. Giffords shot, 6 killed in rampage

    TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — Rep. Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot in the head Saturday by a gunman who opened fire outside a grocery store during a meeting with voters, killing a federal judge and five others in a rampage that rattled the country and left Americans questioning whether divisive politics had pushed the suspect over the edge.

    Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Giffords was the target of a gunman whom he described as mentally unstable and possibly acting along with an accomplice. He said Giffords was among 13 people wounded in the melee that killed six people, including Arizona's chief federal judge, a 9-year-old girl and an aide for the Democratic lawmaker. He said the rampage ended only after two people tackled the gunman.

    The sheriff pointed to the vitriolic political rhetoric that has consumed the country as he denounced the shooting that claimed several of his friends as victims, including U.S. District Judge John Roll. The judge celebrated Mass on Saturday morning like he does every day before stopping by to say hello to his good friend Giffords.

    "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government. The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is getting to be outrageous," the sheriff said. "And unfortunately, Arizona I think has become the capital. We have become the mecca for prejudice and bigotry."

    The reaction to the shooting rippled across the country as Americans were aghast at the sight of such a violent attack on a sitting member of Congress. The shooting cast a pall over the Capitol as politicians of all stripes denounced the shooting as a horrific and senseless act of violence. Capitol police asked members of Congress to be more vigilant about security in the wake of the shooting, and some politicians expressed hope that the killing spree serves as a wakeup call at a time when the political climate has become so emotionally charged.

    "It is a tragedy for Arizona, and a tragedy for our entire country," President Barack Obama declared.

    Giffords, 40, is a three-term moderate Democrat who narrowly won re-election in November against a tea party candidate as conservatives across the country sought to throw her from office over her support of the health care law. Her office in Tucson was vandalized in the hours after the House passed the overhaul last March as anger over the law spread across the country.

    Police say the shooter was in custody, and was identified by people familiar with the investigation as Jared Laugher, 22. Pima County Sheriff's officials said he used a 9 mm pistol to carry out the attack. U.S. officials who provided his name to the AP spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release it publicly.

    The suspect's exact motivation was not clear, but a former classmate described Laugher as a pot-smoking loner who had rambling beliefs about the world. Federal law enforcement officials were poring over versions of a MySpace page that belonged to Jared Loughner and over a YouTube video published weeks ago under an account "Classitup10" and linked to him. The MySpace page, which was removed within minutes of the gunman being identified by officials, included a mysterious "Goodbye friends" message published hours before the shooting and exhorted his friends to "Please don't be mad at me."

    In one of several Youtube videos, which featured text against a dark background, Loughner described inventing a new U.S. currency and complained about the illiteracy rate among people living in Giffords' congressional district in Arizona.

    "I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen (sic)."

    Giffords spokesman C.J. Karamargin said three Giffords staffers were shot. One died, and the other two are expected to survive. Gabe Zimmerman, a former social worker who served as Giffords' director of community outreach, died. Giffords had worked with the judge in the past to line up funding to build a new courthouse in Yuma, and Obama hailed him for his nearly 40 years of service as a judge.

    Giffords was first elected to Congress amid a wave of Democratic victories in the 2006 election, and has been mentioned as a possible Senate candidate in 2012 and a gubernatorial prospect in 2014.

    Giffords is married to astronaut Mark E. Kelly, who has piloted space shuttles Endeavour and Discovery. The two met in China in 2003 while they were serving on a committee there, and were married in January 2007. Sen. Bill Nelson, chairman of the Senate Commerce Space and Science Subcommittee, said her husband is training to be the next commander of the space shuttle mission slated for April. His brother is currently serving aboard the International Space Station, Nelson said.

    Giffords, known as "Gabby," tweeted shortly before the shooting, describing her "Congress on Your Corner" event: "My 1st Congress on Your Corner starts now. Please stop by to let me know what is on your mind or tweet me later."

    "It's not surprising that today Gabby was doing what she always does, listening to the hopes and concerns of her neighbors," Obama said. "That is the essence of what our democracy is about."

    Giffords has drawn the ire of the right in the last year, especially from politicians like Sarah Palin over her support of the health care bill. It's still not clear if the gunman had the health care debate in mind or was focused on his own unique set of political beliefs as witnessed in the Internet videos.

    Law enforcement officials said members of Congress reported 42 cases of threats or violence in the first three months of 2010, nearly three times the 15 cases reported during the same period a year earlier. Nearly all dealt with the health care bill, and Giffords was among the targets.

    Giffords' Tucson office was vandalized a few hours after the House voted to approve the health care law in March, with someone either kicking or shooting out a glass door and window. More recently, the sheriff also said that someone in a "very angry audience" at a Giffords event dropped a weapon out of their pants.

    In an interview after the vandalism, Giffords referred to the animosity against her by conservatives. Palin listed Giffords' seat as one of the top "targets" in the midterm elections because of the lawmakers' support for the health care law.

    "For example, we're on Sarah Palin's targeted list, but the thing is, that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a0 gun sight over our district. When people do that, they have to realize that there are consequences to that action," Giffords said in an interview with MSNBC.

    In the hours after the shooting, Palin issued a statement in which she expressed her "sincere condolences" to the family of Giffords and the other victims.

    The sheriff used the word "vitriol" several times to express his disgust with the political climate in the country and in Arizona, a heavily conservative state that put itself at the center of the national debate on immigration last year with a contentious crackdown on illegal immigrants. Residents and politicians here have also vocally opposed Obama and Democrats on health care.

    The shooting occurred at a shopping center called La Toscana Village as Giffords met with voters outside a Safeway grocery store.

    Mark Kimball, a communications staffer for Giffords, described the scene as "just complete chaos, people screaming, crying." The gunman fired at Giffords and her district director and started shooting indiscriminately at staffers and others standing in line to talk to the congresswoman, Kimball said.

    "He was not more than three or four feet from the congresswoman and the district director," he said.

    Law enforcement officials and reporters from around the country quickly descended on Tucson, the second biggest city in the state and home to the University of Arizona. The scene has been converted into a command post with about a dozen or so emergency vehicles and agents in FBI jackets milling about the location.

    Outside Giffords' office on Capitol Hill, a handful of congressional staffers could be seen walking into her office without comment, some with roller bags and one who was in tears. About a half dozen yellow flowers placed by one mourner sat outside the door.

    In Loughner's middle-class neighborhood — about a five-minute drive from the scene — sheriff's deputies had much of the street blocked off as curious neighbors asked what was going on. The neighborhood sits just off a bustling Tucson street and is lined with desert landscaping and palm trees.

    Neighbors said Loughner kept to himself but that they often saw him walking his dog, almost always wearing a hooded sweat shirt listening to his iPod. Neighbors said Loughner lived with his parents.

    "We're getting out of here. We are freaked out," 33-year-old David Cleveland, who lives a few doors down from Loughner's house, told The Associated Press.

    Cleveland said he was taking his wife and children, ages 5 and 7, to her parent's home when they heard about the shooting.

    "When we heard about it we just got sick to our stomachs," Cleveland said. "We just wanted to hold our kids tight."

    High school classmate Grant Wiens, 22, said Loughner seemed to be "floating through life" and "doing his own thing."

    "Sometimes religion was brought up or drugs. He smoked pot, I don't know how regularly. And he wasn't too keen on religion from what I could tell," Wiens said.

    The shooting comes amid a highly charged political environment that has seen several dangerous threats against lawmakers but nothing that reached the point of actual violence.

    A San Francisco man upset with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's support of health care reform pleaded guilty to threatening the Democratic congresswoman and her family, calling her directly on March 25 and threatening to destroy her Northern California home if she voted for health care reform.

    In July, a California man known for his anger over left-leaning politics engaged in a shootout with highway patrol officers after planning an attack on the ACLU and another nonprofit group. The man said he wanted to "start a revolution" by killing people at the ACLU and the Tides Foundation.

    During his campaign effort to unseat Giffords in November, Republican challenger Jesse Kelly held fundraisers where he urged supporters to help remove Giffords from office by joining him to shoot a fully loaded M-16 rifle. Kelly is a former Marine who served in Iraq and was pictured on his website in military gear holding his automatic weapon and promoting the event.

    "I don't see the connection," between the fundraisers featuring weapons and Saturday's shooting, said John Ellinwood, Kelly's spokesman. "I don't know this person, we cannot find any records that he was associated with the campaign in any way. I just don't see the connection.

    "Arizona is a state where people are firearms owners — this was just a deranged individual," Ellinwood said.

    Giffords is known in her southern Arizona district for her numerous public outreach meetings, which she admitted in an October interview with The Associated Press can sometimes be challenging.

    "You know, the crazies on all sides, the people who come out, the planet earth people," she said with a following an appearance with Adm. Mike Mullen in which the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was peppered with bizarre questions from an audience member. "I'm glad this just doesn't happen to me."
    Last edited by TheGrandMom; 01-08-2011, 10:04 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Tea party nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

    Simply terrible.

    However, it must be mentioned that his political leanings are not known at this point, and truly, political leanings do not create the killer, but rather it is the mental state of the individual that does. (But any charged messages do impact the impressionable, regardless of affiliations.)

    Can we move this to Offtopic?
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    • #3
      Re: Tea party nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

      Check out the dude's youtube.

      He's not tea party. He's just fucked up.

      Really people, things are politicized enough without starting up the fucking blame game. As soon as you point the finger like that, you only open up your own side for more criticism (Democrats always trying to slam the Tea Party with lies, this wouldn't have been as bad if someone else there had been carrying a gun, etc.).

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      • #4
        Re: Tea party nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

        There is nothing yet on what motivated the shooter or what kind of political affiliations he had. Just about the only thing that can be said is that he's your above average nut job that made comments about abortion like strapping the fetus to a bomb and calling it a "baby boomer".

        Of course, I'm sure lots of people are watching about this and hoping that he doesn't become the poster child for their particular ideology.
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        • #5
          Re: Tea party nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

          Originally posted by Ketaru View Post
          he doesn't become the poster child for their particular ideology.
          I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno.
          Only people with anything to worry about are chaotic evil.

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          • #6
            Re: Tea party nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

            Remember the guy that shot Regan? That was just some nut that thought it would impress Jodie Foster. I would love to know how he reached that conclusion. Proof enough that becoming completely unhinged doesn't require a political motive.

            All that aside, are you a bot?

            I've just noticed this was markedly similar and random to a number of other posts that don't seem to find their way to the off-topic section. Also, usually when you join an FFXI forum, you introduce yourself, tell us what server you hail from and what jobs you play for FFXI or FFXIV.

            What you don't do is make random posts on random forums.

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            • #7
              Re: Tea party nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

              Yes, we are having a bit of an issue right now with bots. This could be the same guy as here though:

              http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/ffx...hi-people.html

              Why 2 different accounts though? Relavant topic though so I'm going to leave it.
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              • #8
                Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                It's obvious Giffords had or was at the very least developing WMDs.
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                • #9
                  Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                  FWIW, I don't think this is a bot. Bots don't generally manage to post stuff in the right forum. There have been several other bot-posts however.


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                  • #10
                    Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                    I moved both posts because they were in the wrong sections. I think its a bot but I could be wrong.
                    Originally posted by Feba
                    But I mean I do not mind a good looking man so long as I do not have to view his penis.
                    Originally posted by Taskmage
                    God I hate my periods. You think passing a clot through a vagina is bad? Try it with a penis.
                    Originally posted by DakAttack
                    ...I'm shitting dicks out of my eyeballs in excitement for the next bestgreating game of all time ever.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                      Originally posted by Icemage View Post
                      FWIW, I don't think this is a bot. Bots don't generally manage to post stuff in the right forum. There have been several other bot-posts however.


                      Icemage
                      This was originally in the FFXI Media section.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                        Originally posted by TheGrandMom View Post
                        I moved both posts because they were in the wrong sections. I think its a bot but I could be wrong.
                        That would explain why they're in the right place then. In that case, yes, agree it's a bot.


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                        • #13
                          Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                          Botting and didn't even claim anything, wtf.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                            Originally posted by Aksannyi View Post
                            Botting and didn't even claim anything, wtf.
                            Not the Fafhogg type, Aks.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Nut job shoots Arizona Rep. Giffords in the face, 6 killed in rampage

                              From the looks of it they are just testing whether or not their bots pass through. And they are passing...
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