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    Hackers Wirelessly Crash Car's Computer At Highway Speeds

    "A team of university researchers has been able to hack into a car's warning systems via wireless sensors, sending fake tire pressure messages at highway speeds and eventually frying an onboard computer. The dawn of the carhacker approaches.

    We've told you before about experiments to hack into the increasingly complicated programming in modern vehicles. How complicated? A typical luxury sedan will carry three miles of wiring, scores of processors and close to 100 million lines of software code, or roughly 20 times more than used in a F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

    Those previous experiments showed what could be done with a physical connection to a vehicle's computer. The new work by teams from the University of South Carolina and Rutgers tried a different tack: spoofing the wireless sensors in wheels used by tire pressure monitoring systems, required in all new U.S. vehicles since 2008.

    The researchers didn't find a wide-open door so much as the security employed by a 1920s speakeasy: once they learned the secret knock, the unidentified test car's controls let them in no questions asked. The team sent fake warning messages from 40 meters away, and in another experiment, got the test car to flash a warning that a tire had lost all pressure while beaming the signal from another car as both drove 68 mph.

    Because each sensor uses a unique ID tag, it was also possible to track specific vehicles, in a way that would be far less noticeable than roadside cameras.

    The hacked car usually reset its warnings after the spoofed messages stopped. But after two days of tests, the electronic control unit for the tire monitors fell off its twig and had to be replaced by a dealer. The researchers note that it took several hours of graduate-level engineering to devise their tools and crack into the monitors, but that the actual technology for doing so cost about $1,500.

    The teams suggest some basic software rules could provide at least a lookout for the speakeasy door. it's not the auto equivalent of the Conficker worm, but such experiments suggest the tools for an actual hack may exist. Thankfully, many Americans already have a strong defense of ignorance: Nearly half apparently don't understand what a tire pressure warning light looks like, and a third don't even know such systems exist.
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  • #2
    Re: Another alarmist article

    lets all go back to the early 90s. that was a comfortable decade.

    my cellphone is still 1st gen, my car has no computers
    my shoes are a bit worn

    im ready to go back, who's with me
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    • #3
      Re: Another alarmist article

      Originally posted by TheGrandMom View Post
      The researchers note that it took several hours of graduate-level engineering to devise their tools and crack into the monitors, but that the actual technology for doing so cost about $1,500.
      It's a good thing there aren't any graduate students out there with a few hundred dollars to pool who want to go around annoying innocent motorists and get away with it.

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      • #4
        Re: Another alarmist article

        Originally posted by Feba View Post
        It's a good thing there aren't any graduate students out there with a few hundred dollars to pool who want to go around annoying innocent motorists and get away with it.
        Not yet, anyways.

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        • #5
          Re: Another alarmist article

          Originally posted by Feba View Post
          graduate-level engineering
          that also sounds incredibly conceited, i thought
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          • #6
            Re: Another alarmist article

            I don't see the point of them doing it. The fact that they did it as an experiemnt and then went to the media about it will make the situation worse. Mainly because A, noone knew about it before and B now some hackers and criminals are going to look to what else they can control, i.e. if they can get access to the onboard computer then they can adjust the fuel air mixture causing the engine to conk out which means they could stop your car then rob/ kidnap you...

            It would be even more worrying when we have fully automated cars and I for one will drive a manual for the rest of my life.

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            • #7
              Re: Another alarmist article

              Originally posted by Jarre View Post
              drive a manual for the rest of my life
              same here, the day i convert to some fancy shmancy car with electronic everythings will be the day i lose interest in the things of life like the birds and the trees.
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              • #8
                Re: Another alarmist article

                Kinda with Jarre on this, seeing as they didn't have to go and publicly post their findings. Really, its not like the media is ever going to come up short on content, but if you give them alarmist things to run with they're gonna use it.

                My car isn't terribly sophisticated tech-wise. 2001 Mercury Cougar.

                AP is reporting about a superbug gene that makes bacteria resistant to many forms of antibotics. Sounds like the new swine flu. Let's all get worried about it.

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                • #9
                  Re: Another alarmist article

                  Making it public might have that negative outcome but it also rushes the developers to fix security holes faster, keeping it under wraps would make them turn a blind eye on it.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Another alarmist article

                    Originally posted by Balfree View Post
                    Making it public might have that negative outcome but it also rushes the developers to fix security holes faster, keeping it under wraps would make them turn a blind eye on it.
                    All the better reason to bring the findings directly to the attention of car companies rather than put it through the media, because you know there's those slip-and-fall/ho-coffee-in-my-lap types out there just looking for a new reason to sue.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Another alarmist article

                      Indeed. And sometimes for developers to actually do proper work they need incentives like that. Fear is one of my motivators at least. lol
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                      • #12
                        Re: Another alarmist article

                        Man it would be scary to have some guys follow me around for 2 days spaming my ECU with false tire presure readings. TWO DAYS...
                        IT TOOK THEM TWO DAYS... NOT A VALID MEANS OF STOPING A CAR.

                        Funnie cause if i want to make someone wreck while their driving, I would shoot them. When half your brain is in the back seat or on the passenger window you tend to not make safe driving decisions.

                        Thank you TGM for reminding me at how stupid we are ^^

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                        • #13
                          Re: Another alarmist article

                          "we" aren't stupid.

                          Just a friendly reminder.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Another alarmist article

                            Balfree's not human?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Another alarmist article

                              Originally posted by Tommy Lee Jones
                              A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
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                              However much I am actually smart, I got that way by confronting how stupid I am.
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