Asian girl destroys PS3

[Takelli]

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The whole "experience" thing is getting beyond ridiculous in the few places that do hire. Even in entry-level jobs they want you to have five years or so of experience in the field and I want to know just how the fuck that works. Everyone wants you to have experience, but no one seems willing to give you experience these days.

Experience doesn't just happen, employers have to create it at some point, but they seem to be against it.

Its just that they don't want to train you, or take their time to teach you how shit works. I know how to flip a fucking hamburger, and yet I am not qualified? Besides... WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU NEED TO BE QUALIFIED TO FLIP A DAMN HAMBURGER!

Sorry...

But still, its kinda sad.

[TheGrandMom]

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If that were true, fast food would have solve all our employment woes long ago.

Unfortunately, not even high school kids can get those jobs when illegals are cheaper to hire.



The whole "experience" thing is getting beyond ridiculous in the few places that do hire. Even in entry-level jobs they want you to have five years or so of experience in the field and I want to know just how the fuck that works. Everyone wants you to have experience, but no one seems willing to give you experience these days.

Experience doesn't just happen, employers have to create it at some point, but they seem to be against it.

I'm sorry but here there are jobs in fast food. My niece and sister are jobless and picky. I have picked up apps for them both and been told "oh no, I can't work there because..." insert various bs reason after that. I realize it totally sucks to work hard for minimum pay but then you shouldn't be bitching about your situation if you don't apply for any damn job that you were able to work at. I'm tired of lazy ass people. If they would stop applying for jobs via the internet and get out there in person, I bet they could find a job faster. When you go in person they can interview right away if they want or they can see if you look like someone they would be interested in hiring. I told my sister that she has to sell herself too. Go in and be assertive, sell yourself. Show them that you are the person for the job by telling them how your personality or your experience will benefit them. But she still applies over the internet and moans about how there are no jobs and she's too old. Well my hubby has picked up work and he's her age. I've picked up work and I'm no spring chicken either.

[Mhurron]

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I'm sorry but here there are jobs in fast food. My niece and sister are jobless and picky. I have picked up apps for them both and been told "oh no, I can't work there because..." insert various bs reason after that. I realize it totally sucks to work hard for minimum pay but then you shouldn't be bitching about your situation if you don't apply for any damn job that you were able to work at. I'm tired of lazy ass people. If they would stop applying for jobs via the internet and get out there in person, I bet they could find a job faster. When you go in person they can interview right away if they want or they can see if you look like someone they would be interested in hiring. I told my sister that she has to sell herself too. Go in and be assertive, sell yourself. Show them that you are the person for the job by telling them how your personality or your experience will benefit them. But she still applies over the internet and moans about how there are no jobs and she's too old. Well my hubby has picked up work and he's her age. I've picked up work and I'm no spring chicken either.

Ya, I want those damn kids with their internets and fancy shoes off my lawn too.

I was going to say more, but damn, when was the last time you actually looked for a job? When you go in, you are told to fill out an application and leave, if this is not just a local store the application process is going to be online more often then not. You will not hear back from this most of the time because if the position is filled at all, less people to pay means more profits after all, it will be filled by someone who knows someone, usually the person managing the hiring.

There is no interview right there.
They do not want assertive people, they want spineless followers.
Experience means nothing when the manager knows someone.

Like BBQ said, if it was anywhere near as simple and straight forward as you assert, there would never be any unemployment.

[Feba]

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[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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I'm sorry but here there are jobs in fast food. My niece and sister are jobless and picky. I have picked up apps for them both and been told "oh no, I can't work there because..." insert various bs reason after that. I realize it totally sucks to work hard for minimum pay but then you shouldn't be bitching about your situation if you don't apply for any damn job that you were able to work at. I'm tired of lazy ass people. If they would stop applying for jobs via the internet and get out there in person, I bet they could find a job faster. When you go in person they can interview right away if they want or they can see if you look like someone they would be interested in hiring. I told my sister that she has to sell herself too. Go in and be assertive, sell yourself. Show them that you are the person for the job by telling them how your personality or your experience will benefit them. But she still applies over the internet and moans about how there are no jobs and she's too old. Well my hubby has picked up work and he's her age. I've picked up work and I'm no spring chicken either.

I mean no disrespect, but you might as well just be going "Blah, blah, blah."

Not everyone has the same situation, but I can tell you for certain that when I'm honest about my medical history, its been the reason I've lost jobs or been denied interviews. They don't care that you have your panic attacks under control, they just read it as "mental illness" and have no desire to take five minutes to hear you out.

Sorry, but the baby boomers are a bit cold and impersonal when it comes to the hiring process. They like to think they don't discriminate because they hire black people and women, but there are other ways to discriminate and some are apparently totally socially acceptable.

Even if I wasn't getting the B6 and fish oils I needed, Its not like I'm gonna come in and start shooting up the place.

Then there's the single male thing. Engaged or married and you're golden. Employers like engaged or married, it means you're not going to get away easily. Single men, though, we're seen as "unreliable." Employers do look at this, perhaps not for fast food, but in more gainful jobs? Totally.

Also turns out that - much like being a citizen - having a college education can be a strike against you, especially for those "in the meantime" jobs. For one, they know you're going to leave the second something better comes along and if you don't, you pose a threat to the management for having a higher skill set.

Call me cynical, but I don't have a job for a lack of trying. That's the case with a lot of people right now. Its not just that people are acting like they're above certain job, most would love to have any job with benefits.

I'm trying to work my connections to get a job at Gamestop and BELIEVE ME, forcing Game Informer down people's throats is not something I really want to do for a living. Fake-ass suggestive sales like that are the bane of my existence, accepting used product without case or instructions makes me die a little on the inside and hearing people call them "Super Mary-o" and "Ninja Gay-den" makes me want to hit someone. Repeatedly.

But I know my games and when they employee and managers start looking at you like you're supposed to help, that's sort of a sign they'd hire you.

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Dammit, I wanted to than Hhurron (which is rare, I know), but that thank button is missing.

It really is true about the spineless follower thing, though.

Part of my problem is that in the workplace my spine tends to stick out. I have ideas, opinions and such things are not kosher with baby boomer management.

[Yellow Mage]

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Dammit, I wanted to than Mhurron (which is rare, I know), but that thank button is missing.

F5.

[Malacite]

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Unfortunately, not even high school kids can get those jobs when illegals are cheaper to hire.

Okay, I'll bite.

Don't blame the illegals, blame the companies that are hiring them illegally in the first place. I remember seeing something on CNN a while back about the congress (think it was congress, could have been a local or state government but anyway) fighting over some bill to make E-Verify mandatory for employers.

WHY?! What possible ramifications could come from requiring companies to actually check the legitimacy of their employees when they're being hired? Only people who oppose this are

A) Pandering for votes

B) Clearly got something to hide.

Some jobs require background checks on a person too, so it's not like this is some violation of civil liberties. Yeah they need to secure the border something fierce, but you know what? If they couldn't get work they wouldn't even be flooding into the country in the first place. It's probably way more effective (and cheaper) to write some stricter laws and actually crack down on businesses that hire illegals than it would be to construct some obscenely long fence and patrol it (much as I like Rand Paul's idea of Helicopters & Cameras, that sounds pretty expensive)

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Call me cynical, but I don't have a job for a lack of trying. That's the case with a lot of people right now. Its not just that people are acting like they're above certain job, most would love to have any job with benefits.

Aye, fucking CRA and their ridiculous standards... but then Ottawa is a shit bag altogether. It's all about who you know in this city if you want any decent job -_ - (going on just over 2 years now looking and I hate fast food joints)

Hoping my old work will hire me back but who the fuck knows.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Okay, I'll bite.

Don't blame the illegals, blame the companies that are hiring them illegally in the first place.

I can blame both, but I do totally blame companies and placement agencies for the mess of a job situation my state is in. There's really only one reason illegals would move beyond the south, though, and that reason is jobs. its frustrating for everyone here that employers cream themselves when they see a Mexican.

As I've said - doesn't matter what your race is, if you are a citizen, there are plenty of places here that will turn you away because they have to pay you minimum wage.

[Malacite]

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A little mandatory jail time would probably go a long ways towards solving that.

Fine's never do shit; Most companies will just see it as a slap on the wrist and an excuse to cut wages even more.

[TheGrandMom]

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FYI, my post was about my area, which I stated, and about my sister and my neice, which is who I was talking about. Sorry that my English was incomprehensible.

My husband is a handicapped 55 yr old and he found work. I'm an unhealthy grandmother and it took me 2 months to get my current job. I didn't need to know anyone and I got it by pounding the pavement, as did my handicapped husband. At one I interview, I made a comment about applying online for the job but I happened to be in the area. The hiring manager told me that it was good I didn't because they consider those apps last. I found that several places I applied at felt negatively about online apps. I don't know if it's my area or the types of jobs I applied for but I look at it like this, if even one place that I'm applying to feels that way and I NEED a job, then I need to get off my butt and pound the pavement. That one place could be the one that hires me. I don't give a shit what anyone thinks, you do everything you possibly can (i.e. applying in person, selling yourself, doing call backs, etc.) before you start whining about not being able to find a job or not having any money. There's nothing wrong with doing it old school, it just seems that some people seem to be allergic to hard work (i.e. my sister and my niece).

[Lmnop]

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The hiring manager told me that it was good I didn't because they consider those apps last. I found that several places I applied at felt negatively about online apps.

I totally believe this, but I can't stand the idea of applying in person to a programming or IT dude job. That seems like self-fail. "I wasn't smart enough to figure out how to apply online -- can I take care of your networks?"

Double post incominggggg!!!

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The whole "experience" thing is getting beyond ridiculous in the few places that do hire. Even in entry-level jobs they want you to have five years or so of experience in the field and I want to know just how the fuck that works. Everyone wants you to have experience, but no one seems willing to give you experience these days.

You knew it was coming:

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[TheGrandMom]

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Well, I didn't apply for an IT job but my son did for several months. He kept applying online and then sitting around the house moaning about how he wanted a job in his field. (In his defense, he was working...as a stock boy. lol But at least he was making some money while still looking for a better job.) He used the excuse that he didn't have the time to go looking in person, but that was just an excuse since he would have a weekday off here and there. He just didn't want to use those days pounding the pavement. But low and behold, he got a job in his field eventually....and it was the second application he put in...IN PERSON. Now is that a coincidence? Maybe, but it does seem rather odd now, doesn't it?

[cidbahamut]

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I totally believe this, but I can't stand the idea of applying in person to a programming or IT dude job. That seems like self-fail. "I wasn't smart enough to figure out how to apply online -- can I take care of your networks?"
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Actually for programming and IT the in-person thing and knowing a guy who knows a guy is still the best way.

I sent out dozens of resumes last summer using the online applications for companies and never heard anything from any of them. Then I went to an IT job fair and talked to folks and dropped resumes there, less than a dozen all told. Started getting emails and job interviews from that within weeks. Didn't land a job with any of 'em, but seeing the company representatives face to face gives them less of a chance to weasel out of communicating with you.

At the end of the day though I still landed a job because I knew a guy and spent a summer interning with his company while I was still in school. So yeah, online apps are primarily just to filter out the applicants they don't want, regardless of industry.

[Lmnop]

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knowing a guy who knows a guy

I don't actually know anyone who's ever made more than $9/hour without getting in by "knowing a guy".

[Ziero]

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I totally believe this, but I can't stand the idea of applying in person to a programming or IT dude job. That seems like self-fail. "I wasn't smart enough to figure out how to apply online -- can I take care of your networks?"

It's not so much "Not being able to figure it out" and more "being able to display social and personal skills while presenting yourself in a positive manner". Like it or not, the face to face interview is one of the most important parts of getting a job, if you're not willing to clean yourself up, put on a big smile, walk up to someone and shake their hand, it means most employers won't even have to give you a second glance. Online apps are the worst because employers don't even really need to look at them before being dismissed, at least snail mail apps have a physical presence and show that someone put a bit more effort into things.

I don't actually know anyone who's ever made more than $9/hour without getting in by "knowing a guy".

Nepotism is, and will always be, the best way to find employment.

Also, totally on topic. I would totally destroy that asian chick. Not in a violent "she destroyed my PS3 that bitch!" way but in a "you have a hot ass and I'ma bang you" kinda way. But then again I'm the nice guy, so doing things like "paying attention to your GF" come easy to me. This guy looked like a total douche...which is probably why she was with him in the first place.

Man, chicks be crazy like that.