The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

[Kailea]

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How so? What I get from Feba is that she says that you want other people to be able to slap other kids, and thats just wrong. Being able to slap another person's kid is just plain wrong. Parents should be the only ones to spank their child/punish them. Besides teachers who should use the ruler on the knuckle like they used to do.

because Feba is blowing what I say out of proportion, and twisting it.

in any of my posts I never said "beat" or "hit" and don't lie many people here, when seeing a completely disrespectful kid, would love to just smack em upside the head" does not mean we would really do it, even if we could.

Yes parents should be the only one do do this, (or principles/teachers) but the sad part is they are not, instead they blame media of all sorts, and attack that instead.

[Mhurron]

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because Feba is blowing what I say out of proportion, and twisting it.

in any of my posts I never said "beat" or "hit" and don't lie many people here, when seeing a completely disrespectful kid, would love to just smack em upside the head" does not mean we would really do it, even if we could.

Thats when slapping the shit out of him should be perfectly legal -.- Mothers not doing it, someone needs to.....

Yes, you did advocate going around and disciplining other peoples children. No one blew anything out of proportion.

[Takelli]

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because Feba is blowing what I say out of proportion, and twisting it.

in any of my posts I never said "beat" or "hit" and don't lie many people here, when seeing a completely disrespectful kid, would love to just smack em upside the head" does not mean we would really do it, even if we could.

Yes parents should be the only one do do this, (or principles/teachers) but the sad part is they are not, instead they blame media of all sorts, and attack that instead.

I am reading your posts as Feba says. Look at Mhurron's post above this one. I would like to smack a kid and teach them a lesson once in a while, but I would never act upon it because they aren't my kid. If I did hav ea kid, I would smack them outside their mouth if they cussed, or spank them. I would even do it in public if need be, but I would never hit another parent's child.

[TheGrandMom]

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While I understand the passion/urge behind wanting to smack a kid upside the head, if its not your child then it is abuse. Even when my sisters kids were young, I did not physically discipline them if I was babysitting. The only way I would is if my sister said something like "We slap his hand if he tries to touch any electronics so if he goes near your stuff, please feel free to slap his hands." I can't imagine someone, a total stranger, reaching out and smacking my kid upside the head. Many of the people that post here aren't parents and, imo, you can't really connect with the feelings parents have until you've been one.

[Kailea]

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I am reading your posts as Feba says. Look at Mhurron's post above this one. I would like to smack a kid and teach them a lesson once in a while, but I would never act upon it because they aren't my kid. If I did hav ea kid, I would smack them outside their mouth if they cussed, or spank them. I would even do it in public if need be, but I would never hit another parent's child.

and thats how I feel, I might not have worded it well, but at the same time I did not come out and say I want to go around beating this shit out of kids left and right.

No its not my kid, so no I would never discipline them, but in the back of your head, you know your thinking "man I wish I could smack em for saying/doing that"

I have my little nephew, and I would never slap him -.- but at the same time we teach him what needs to be learned, so he never has acted out like I see some kids do.

[Romyro]

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While I don’t agree with disciplining other people’s kids, I do think kids could use a disciplinary slap at times (by there parents). IMO other methods should ALWAYS come first but there comes a time when repeated ‘talks’ and timeouts just don’t work. As a final attempt after many other failed methods...yes I think a disciplinary slap is necessary.

Call me batshit insane...i don’t care. I can guarantee you one thing though. My daughter will not drop the f-bomb at you if you wave to her in passing.

[Solymir]

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Just fyi, sometimes hitting (spanking, slapping, using a belt on someone's behind, etc...) does not work. Some kids, no matter how hard you try to discipline them, will not listen. I am one of five children, and I have one brother who when we were younger took everything my parents had to give and still acted up/out. No one is created equal, and what works for one child may not work for another.


Edit: Protip: If you find yourself needing to punish a child and you feel the usual stuff may not work try making them stand in one spot while touching their toes. Don't let them know how long the time period is (this adds to the psychological effect), and make sure you can see them so they don't "cheat".

My dad switched to this about halfway through my childhood from spanking us with a belt.

Of course my brother was fairly immune to this punishment as well. Thank god for his kids, he matured a lot after having a couple of his own. Very upstanding citizen these days.


Edit 2: Was looking at the wiki for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment and I noticed that it is not banned in schools for about half of the United States.

[TheGrandMom]

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Corporal punishment should never be the only avenue. Let's not forget that when a young child does something it can be that they don't understand that they are doing anything wrong. They are blank slates and the world they inhabit fills them. So a child walking with his mother who swears at someone that waves could have possibly seen an adult do the same with someone else and is imitating. Who should get a smack upside the head? Who should get a talking to about what is appropriate and what is not.

I advocate not slapping your child at first. You are angry, is this really the appropriate time to be doing something physical with them? First you get down on their level and you talk to them. You explain in easy terms to them what they did was wrong. You ask them if they understand. You tell them to not do it again OR <insert consequence for doing it again>. That consequence could be a slap on the butt/hand/etc next time or being given a time out or having a privilege taken away or giving them an unsavory chore to do (cleaning toilets is one). but of course, kids actually have to be given privileges like computer time, tv time, etc. Most parents just let them have those things like it's their god given right to play video games. ><

[Pwnagraphic]

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Yes, you did advocate going around and disciplining other peoples children. No one blew anything out of proportion.

If the parents don't do it.. someones got to! lol

Corporal punishment should never be the only avenue. Let's not forget that when a young child does something it can be that they don't understand that they are doing anything wrong

No.. You cannot give them that much credit. I knew NOT to cuss at elders, I knew NOT to disrespect my elders, and I knew NOT to back talk..
If I did, I got the shit slapped out of me.. you best believe that.

[TheGrandMom]

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No.. You cannot give them that much credit. I knew NOT to cuss at elders, I knew NOT to disrespect my elders, and I knew NOT to back talk..
If I did, I got the shit slapped out of me.. you best believe that.

And you were taught that by word and deed of the adults that crossed your path. If a child is not brought up with that example then they will emulate the one that is presented to them, thinking that it is acceptable, until they are taught differently.

[Pwnagraphic]

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When I saw my parents doing something I couldn't, I thought it was cause they were adults and I was a child..
I guess I can't speak for other kids though.. It seems that kids these days are 20x worse than kids were when I was their age.

[TheGrandMom]

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But my point is you were taught that way of thinking. It didn't have to be by your parents, there are plenty of other influences in a childs life where they can glean such contexts. A child us born blank, you had to learn it somewhere.

[Pwnagraphic]

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Touche.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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My parents never really did much more severe than a spanking, which accomplished nothing. My Dad did have a nervous breakdown one day and lock me and my sister outside for... actually I don't remember. He just lost it that day, but we were back in within ten minutes.

After that they just tried grounding me, which began around when I had the first Dragon Quest game. They though they could ground me from watching TV. I experimented with cooldown times on the TV because that was the only thing they checked. They also tried disconnecting TV and cable, but I wasn't daunted by that.

We had three TVs, though, so it wasn't an effective punishment.

They never seemed to take my Game Boy away, either. Probably because I hid it too well.

There are a lot more checks and balances now, though. You have parental codes, DVRs and more. There are ways to manage it. I know where my parents failed. They could have kept one TV, but they bought three more. They thought ceasing to buy me games would curb my interest in gaming, but I could swap games with friends. That system was effective even through my college years.

If my kid begged me for a PSP I would get him a PSPGo. He wouldn't have a credit card to buy games with. He'd have to go with PSN cards.

[Feba]

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If my kid begged me for a PSP I would get him a PSPGo.

You're going to make a terrible parent.