The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

[Kailea]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

Yes. You're saying it would be nice if you could go around hitting other people's children. I'm calling you out on being batshit insane.

what the hell are you talking about -.- ok so its batshit insane now to want to see some discipline, in a disciplineless youth?

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

what the hell are you talking about -.- ok so its batshit insane now to want to see some discipline, in a disciplineless youth?

Its not your kid, though.

See, you're proving why this law is wrong. You don't have the authority to discipline other people's kids.

Why does Johnny Gamestop, 18 years old, have to be the the barrier between right and wrong media, under threat of fine?

Its really the "under threat of fine" that's the problem here, as such, this is not about protecting kids from harmful content, its about the state skimming free money off retailers just because they don't like people getting M rated games. Its about threatening businesses and taking money from them for doing things that are within constitutional bounds.

They're not going after Rockstar games or the people that make M rated games - they know they'll lose that battle.

[Feba]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

ok so its batshit insane now to want to see some discipline, in a disciplineless youth?

Wanting to see discipline? No, that's not crazy.


Being so enraged at the lack of it that you wish you could hit other people's children? Yes. You're batshit insane.

[Kailea]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

Its not your kid, though.

yes I know -.-

at first I said:

"Thats when slapping the shit out of him should be perfectly legal -.- Mothers not doing it, someone needs to....."

no where in there did I say "I want to beat the shit out of the kid" (bold part is more of a general sense, as in someone needs to discipline this kid)

then I said:

"instead of the mother not doing anything, and just saying "he'll just pick it up eventually.", She should have popped him upside the back of the head as soon as he said it. "

then..... :

"I said it, in more of a, would be nice if we could type thing, because most kids nowadays are like that, because the parents don't discipline. It would be illegal, and no I don't think it should be, would be insane to have everyone running around slapping other peoples kids.

But parents need to be the ones to do this....and they don't -.- I am not trying to lead some "hey lets make it legal to slap kids" campaign -.-"

again I said the parents need to do this. (bold: yes I did say it would be nice if I could do it myself, but we cant, because yes that is illegal, I would not want a random person slapping my kid, but then again, I would not need anyone to do that in the first place)

that does not make me "batshit insane" as you put it, that's just you taking what I say way to literal, and blowing it out of proportion so you can argue.

---------- Post added at 01:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:24 PM ----------

Wanting to see discipline? No, that's not crazy.


Being so enraged at the lack of it that you wish you could hit other people's children? Yes. You're batshit insane.

again not hit, slap, a light disciplinary slap, learn the difference. Enraged? no -.- abit annoyed? yes

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

Kaliea - you're buying into the part of the argument that this is about kids.

Its not. Never was. Its people who don't like something, fueled by pop psychology and junk science, trying to control who gets access to it.

This is about censorship.

If its ok for teenagers to read about explicit or implied sexual activity because its "literature" and "educational" - like Siddartha or The Scarlett Letter - or death, murder and suicide in Shakespeare plays - then what damage are video games doing?

Really now. They let you check out Death of a Salesman in high school libraries. One of my friends killed himself shortly after reading it. He was in a bad situation, but it wasn't like he was crippled beyond belief and needed Kevorkian to come in.

But do I blame the book, his bad situation or do I blame what affected me the most?

I blame him for being a weak person. There are a myriad of factors that were involved, I could even point at myself, but I didn't pull the trigger.

[Feba]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

Mothers not doing it, someone needs to....."

no where in there did I say "I want to beat the shit out of the kid"

You want someone other than the parent to attack the kid. That's not discipline, that's rage. And once again, you are batshit crazy.

again I said the parents need to do this.

But that's irrelevant. You're saying that when parents don't discipline their children to your standards, someone else should, and physically. This is because you're batshit insane.

again not hit, slap, a light disciplinary slap, learn the difference.

Which is like the difference between molestation and rape. You're still an evil bastard. And you're batshit insane for thinking there's any way it's reasonable.

[Kailea]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

Kaliea - you're buying into the part of the argument that this is about kids.

Its not. Never was. Its people who doesn't like something, fueled by pop psychology and junk science, trying to control who gets access to it.

Well something does need to be done, not just about games, but everything, nothing is being enforced like it should.

It is a kids nature to want to see and do things they should not be doing, that's a given. Its also the responsibility of parents, stores, movie theaters, music stores, and the like. to do their part as well.

I would love to see fines applied to parents that let their kids play/watch this stuff...... its crazy to blame only the people selling the stuff.

Things have a rating for a reason, its needs to be more enforced then it is now......but nothing should ever be banned. That's going a bit to far.

[Feba]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

This is about censorship.

It's not even really about that. It's about trying to squeeze more money out of dying industries. Newspapers attack news cable, news cable attacks news websites. Books attack television, television attacks internet. The censorship issue isn't bigger with video games than any other type of media-- the reason it gets this far is because it's a new media, and thus old media is scared. If it weren't for TV attacking games (pretty much everyone has seen this on the local news at some point or another), they wouldn't be nearly as demonized, and this stuff wouldn't stand even this long.

[Mhurron]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

Well something does need to be done, not just about games, but everything, nothing is being enforced like it should.

Perhaps something should be done ... by the parents.

[Kailea]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

You want someone other than the parent to attack the kid. That's not discipline, that's rage. And once again, you are batshit crazy.



But that's irrelevant. You're saying that when parents don't discipline their children to your standards, someone else should, and physically. This is because you're batshit insane.



Which is like the difference between molestation and rape. You're still an evil bastard. And you're batshit insane for thinking there's any way it's reasonable.

I am done arguing with you. I said disciplinary slap. I am not talking about rearing back and hitting them as hard as I can. You again are blowing this way out of proportion, and there for I will not argue with you anymore, as it would be "insane" to do so.

[Feba]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

I said disciplinary slap.

Yes. And even that makes you batshit insane. You honestly think that it would be good for children to be hit by random persons as a form of discipline. That's batshit insane. You honestly think that parents should be forced to hit their children, or have someone else do it. That's batshit insane. If you don't like being called insane, stop saying and doing things which are insane.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

It's not even really about that. It's about trying to squeeze more money out of dying industries. Newspapers attack news cable, news cable attacks news websites. Books attack television, television attacks internet. The censorship issue isn't bigger with video games than any other type of media-- the reason it gets this far is because it's a new media, and thus old media is scared. If it weren't for TV attacking games (pretty much everyone has seen this on the local news at some point or another), they wouldn't be nearly as demonized, and this stuff wouldn't stand even this long.

Well, naturally that's an element of it. The Internet and video games are the new media, radio is too resilient to be stopped, but print and televised media are turning into big losers and its hard to recover from that.

The media has been obsessed with containment and damage control for over a decade now, they love the old business model. Hell, even internet providers are the same boat. The cable and telephone services want to sell you packages, but technology has allowed us to undercut them on those as well.

I don't need Clear's 4G phone service, that's what Skype is for. If Skype gets struck down, something will replace it. iTunes replaced Napster with a legit and better model. Record industry spent billions to kill Napster, all to get beaten by a new competitor.

[Kailea]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

Yes. And even that makes you batshit insane. You honestly think that it would be good for children to be hit by random persons as a form of discipline. That's batshit insane. You honestly think that parents should be forced to hit their children, or have someone else do it. That's batshit insane. If you don't like being called insane, stop saying and doing things which are insane.

its people like you, that have put kids respect, the way they are now -.-

[Takelli]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

its people like you, that have put kids respect, the way they are now -.-

How so? What I get from Feba is that she says that you want other people to be able to slap other kids, and thats just wrong. Being able to slap another person's kid is just plain wrong. Parents should be the only ones to spank their child/punish them. Besides teachers who should use the ruler on the knuckle like they used to do.

[Feba]

Re: The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

its people like you, that have put kids respect, the way they are now -.-

...what? If you could rephrase this with English grammar so I could respond, that'd be peachy.