The Governator's Video game Law Vs. The Supreme Court

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Plus.. Who is Arnold to determine what's too violent for youth and a bad influence when he was smoking pot and making movies with occult symbolism and violence. Give me a break.

What else would you expect from a politician but hypocrisy? Much less a guy who was once a young man with anabolic steroids and a dream? This man nuked his own brains out ages ago. I say California got what it deserved.

But how dare kids get exposed to violence in video games when they could be going to see R rated films unchecked? Last I checked the security on Netflix and iTunes wasn't that tight, either.

Personally, I think he was just doing Hollywood and advertisers a favor. They weren't hip to gaming back then and just wanted something to make up for the hit they were taking on the 18-35 vanishing male demographic. DVRs aren't helping either. Now they're investing big, just in time for this case to get thrown out. They don't need it anymore.

[Malacite]

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Because the only options are Anarchy and fascism, amirite?

WTF are you talking about? That was just an amusing anecdote. And guess what? If there are no laws and people are free to do as they please without reprisal from any sort of law enforcement, you can bet your ass there's gonna be bad things happening.


Back on topic, I agree that that it's the parents responsibility, but at the same time how far are we as a society willing to tolerate the gradual degeneration of ourselves? There's no denying that kids are getting more & more self-centered and disrespectful and it's a rather big concern for me.

I never told my teachers go **** themselves, or my parents and I try to watch my language when out in public, particularly if kids are around. When my mom still had her daycare, a while back she thought it would be nice to treat the little ones to some Pizza Pizza. Big mistake - Nothing but jack off highschoolers cussing like it's going out of style.

Do whatever you want in your own home, but when keep it civil when you're out in a public place please. Now how does this tie in with the thread topic? Parents who are too stupid to keep their kids from playing M rated games over Xbox live. I swear I've met so many disgustingly racists kids it's just appalling.


Again, I'm not blaming games - in fact I'm strong believer that games are an outlet for violent behavior and that the people arguing that violent games lead to violent crimes are full of shit. Generally speaking, there's usually some deep-rooted psychological reason for a violent crime. But that still doesn't mean it's appropriate for parents to let their kids play these games.

If you wouldn't let your son or daughter go see an R rated movie, why is music with explicit lyrics or M rated games ok? I dunno, this is turning into a rant more than anything lol. Personally, rather than go with this silly law that's at best a stop gap, how about reinforcing family values & civics classes in school? Maybe scale back some rights for Christ sake. I'm not advocating they let teachers hit students like in the old days again, but lord knows there ain't enough discipline out there.


I hate to generalize like this because I know it's not quite that bad yet. But it really feels like it's gradually getting to the PoNR. The most personally troubling incident I can recall was when a friend of mine was walking down the street just to his house. There was a young mother & her son (couldn't have been more than 10) and he waved at them, just being friendly.

Get this - The kid tells my friend to fuck off. When confronting the mother about it, she simply said "he'll just pick it up eventually." The hell man....

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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Kids tend to emulate the behavior of adults and friends more often than they do the media, then there's the fact that parents now allow kids to be isolated with their media devices when that can easily be contained.

You do not need several TVs in the house. You do not need several game consoles in the house. You do not need several computers. They are not babysitters.

I've gone seven years without TV, I think I'm better off just for that.

Its kinda like what vegetarians say about going off meat - once you lose your taste for it, you just don't really care about it. Well, except I don't intend to lose my taste for meats, as they're among the foods I don't have food allergies to. My body seems to object to popular vegetables more often. Vegetables that are in everything.

If I have kids they can cry, plead and beg all the want about watching TV, but they will only use the TV for movies and games I approve. I'll be damned if I get one-upped by my own kids on gizmos, given I'm a gizmo junkie.

[Kailea]

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Get this - The kid tells my friend to fuck off. When confronting the mother about it, she simply said "he'll just pick it up eventually." The hell man....

Thats when slapping the shit out of him should be perfectly legal -.- Mothers not doing it, someone needs to.....

I hate that too, so many kids on Xbox like, or even places like MMOsite.com, they say so many racist things, sometimes it seems like they don't even know what the hell they are talking about, they are just spouting it out for the hell of it.

[Pwnagraphic]

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I've gone seven years without TV, I think I'm better off just for that.

So you switched that with Internet and Gaming?

Thats when slapping the shit out of him should be perfectly legal -.- Mothers not doing it, someone needs to.....

Legal or not, my mom would have beat my ass right there on the spot.

[Feba]

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Thats when slapping the shit out of him should be perfectly legal -.- Mothers not doing it, someone needs to.....

You're seriously proposing that it should be legal to assault other people's children.


I think this is a pretty good example of how crazy it is to expect legislation to raise our kids.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

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So you switched that with Internet and Gaming?

Gives me more time for gaming, that's for sure.

[Kailea]

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You're seriously proposing that it should be legal to assault other people's children.


I think this is a pretty good example of how crazy it is to expect legislation to raise our kids.

I did not say assault, no need to beat the kid senseless, there is a huge difference in using a disciplinary slap to the face, and an assault -.-


This is why kids don't respect their elders these days, because parents are not using discipline,

"go to your room" oh yeah that's really going to teach them a lesson -.-

For example, instead of the mother not doing anything, and just saying "he'll just pick it up eventually.", She should have popped him upside the back of the head as soon as he said it.

[Takelli]

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This is why kids don't respect their elders these days, because parents are not using discipline,

Well, me and my family had a long talk about this kind of a thing a while ago. We came to agree to the reason as to why they don't spank their kids, or give them a slap on the hand, or give them what ever they want because the parents are afraid they will have the kid taken away if they don't give them everything they want. Or they will go to jail if they spank their child.

[Feba]

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there is a huge difference in using a disciplinary slap to the face, and an assault

No. There isn't. Assault - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary . It's assault and/or battery in any state.

You are seriously proposing we make it legal to go up and hit other people's children. And you think the parents are the fucked up ones?

[Mhurron]

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Well, me and my family had a long talk about this kind of a thing a while ago. We came to agree to the reason as to why they don't spank their kids, or give them a slap on the hand, or give them what ever they want because the parents are afraid they will have the kid taken away if they don't give them everything they want. Or they will go to jail if they spank their child.

Very few are worried about children's services taking their kids away. They're just lazy, asshole parents.

[Kailea]

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No. There isn't. Assault - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary . It's assault and/or battery in any state.

You are seriously proposing we make it legal to go up and hit other people's children. And you think the parents are the fucked up ones?

You take what I say way to literal most of the time....


I said it, in more of a, would be nice if we could type thing, because most kids nowadays are like that, because the parents don't discipline. It would be illegal, and no I don't think it should be, would be insane to have everyone running around slapping other peoples kids.

But parents need to be the ones to do this....and they don't -.- I am not trying to lead some "hey lets make it legal to slap kids" campaign -.-

Kid runs into me in the mall, and I don't get any type of "sorry" or anything, and we don't even have to go into all the crap some people have to listen to on PSN or XBL.

[Takelli]

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I said it, in more of a, would be nice if we could type thing, because most kids nowadays are like that, because the parents don't discipline. It would be illegal, and no I don't think it should be, would be insane to have everyone running around slapping other peoples kids.

They should make it legal for teachers to hit the kids again with the rulers. It would help some what with that. There will be less people disrespecting them, and they would be a bit more disciplined. Also, they need to get rid of OSS as a punishment. The kids obviously don't want to go to the school, so you "reward" them and make it so that they can't go to the school? What type of BS is that?

They should also make the kids "Work" by like cleaning windows in the classroom, or the chalk boards, or even desks FFS.

[Feba]

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I said it, in more of a, would be nice if we could type thing,

Yes. You're saying it would be nice if you could go around hitting other people's children. I'm calling you out on being batshit insane.

[Ufgt]

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Leave the discipline to the parents. If their kid grows up to be a piece of shit, no one to blame but themselves.