What are your views on teen pregnancy?

[Ziero]

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(as for charging someone for sex with a "minor" its BS unless it is rape. Otherwise it is consensual of course american laws are so ass backwards sometimes.)

So it's perfectly ok for a 30 year old to talk a 13/14/15 year old girl into having sex with him?

TGM, when exactly does someone become immune to emotions when sex is involved? Ignoring the other stuff, the way you talk about it it seems like you think no one should ever have sex, to be sure that nobody is ever taken advantage of.

When the girl becomes mature enough emotionally to make that decisions. And fyi, 90% of the time, that doesn't happen at 16.

This all does beg another question though: If you're 30, male, have no job, no car, live with parents, don't date, etc... exactly what woman in her right mind wants to go out with you?

Because many high school (and younger) girls are dumb. Seriously, peer pressure is a big thing in school for most kids, and a girl with a 25 year old boy friend will feel special because she's dating a "man". It doesn't matter how good looking he is or how much stuff he's got, he's older and for many girls, that's 'cool'. I know I've seen it plenty.

I agree tipsy but we live in a fucked up world where like it or not women are placed on a magical pedestal. Anything they say is taken before a man. Hell look at divorce, If my wife and I divorce guess what I am liable to get, well guess what she will get. My house, my kid, my car, half my check. Is that fair? I lose everything I worked for, including my family because a women says I should.

Yup, that pedastal's so high they can even touch the ceiling! ...oh wait

I would like to refer you to the man vs gold digger. Their are many women out there who marry with nothing nothing and leave with everything.

Hello exception, I'd like to introduce you to the rule.

Irconically, I just heard something interesting on the news today, Palins 17 year old daughter is knocked up. I can't wait for the media to take this on a wild ride, only to find a few months from now it was a planned pregnancy, but hey teenagers can't make their own decisions in this world I guess, Im glad my planned child is doing great, Im glad my planned teenage marriage family and life is doing great, but I suppose I must be a special case, I mean all teens who may or may not have planned pregnancies and family's could possibly be as good as me right.

...of course you're a "special case". It is absurdly rare for an 18 year old to make 25 bucks and hour and buy their own house. Let alone getting 50k for staying with a specific company. Apparently you don't realize how bizarrely rare that kind of situation actually is and somehow believe it's not a 1/1000 freak occurance.

the girl across the street that is 18 is like 7 months preggers
her baby shower is coming up
she was my best friend when we were little
but i never see her around now
and havent talked to her since this happened
what do i say
do you say congrats for this type of thing?

I'd say congrats to her. If she's having a baby shower it at least shows she has family and friends to support her through this time, and at this point it's too late for regret. So it'd be much better to celebrate the situation and hope everything turns out well for her and her baby.

[Feba]

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And fyi, 90% of the time, that doesn't happen at 16.

And %90 of the time it doesn't happen at all.

Seriously, do you people know nobody over 30 who is a complete idiot when it comes to relationships? And that's the far end-- nearly everyone in a romantic relationship has their judgment clouded by emotions. Fools fall in love, and all that. The idea that someone is going to go from being an easily manipulable idiot to someone who thinks rationally from 16 to 18 is ridiculous.

Because people are dumb. Seriously, peer pressure is a big thing for most people, and a girl with a 25 year old boy friend will feel special because she's dating a "man". It doesn't matter how good looking he is or how much stuff he's got, he's older and for many girls, that's 'cool'. I know I've seen it plenty.

Fixed. The same formula works for all sorts of "a <person> with a <noun> will <beneficial social or emotional thing here>" combinations. "a guy with a bright red sports car will feel like they get more attention."; "a dog with a bone will feel content"; "a taru with his AF2 will feel accomplished". What makes a 16 year old dating a person for their age any worse than a 28 year old dating someone for their money?

[TheGrandMom]

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the girl across the street that is 18 is like 7 months preggers
her baby shower is coming up
she was my best friend when we were little
but i never see her around now
and havent talked to her since this happened
what do i say
do you say congrats for this type of thing?

Good luck, I hope you have a happy and healthy baby.

[Jarre]

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I've held off for a while putting my views as some people may find them rash, or damaging. But here’s my 2 pence worth.

The below are based on my own observations from a county in England that has had a large percentage of underage pregnancies, at one stage this region had the highest in Europe.

The true fact of the matter is maturity of the girl giving birth. Lets look at the different ages:-

18-21 The girl (hopefully) has finished school and done a little bit of further education, she is now partying with her friends trying to enjoy her first bought of freedom.

12-18 The girl is in school, she is trying to get herself an education, she is going through the maturity stages of becoming a woman and can still be developing up to as late as 18. her life experience is minimal, she wants to spend time with friends, she wants to enjoy life.

Having a baby will end the 2 above, the responsibility is overwhelming and neither of those people are ready for it in most cases.

I’ll quote a few headlines from our local paper..

“Baby left on own in house while mother goes out clubbing”

Social services was called after an 18 year old mother left her 4 month old baby in his cot and went out drinking and clubbing with the girls. Social services and police officers were alerted by the neighbour after the baby had been crying for 2 hours solid. Police broke into the house fearing the mother may have collapsed but found no one in the house and the baby sat in its excrement in its cot needing feeding. The mother when returned to find the baby taken to the hospital for checks was arrested by police for neglect. The child was suffering from malnutrition, their was no baby food in the house and only standard semi skimmed milk that the girl had been feeding it. The baby had not been washed or changed for days. The girl admitted she was sick and tired of being cooped up in the house with the baby. The father had absconded as soon as he knew she was pregnant. The baby is now in foster care.

“Girl, 13 dies giving birth”
A 13 year old girl died whilst giving birth via caserium section. The girls body which was still developing couldn’t take the additional strain of producing a baby, the girl who’d only started her period 6 months prior fell pregnant after her boyfriend (4 years older) and her had been copulating for the last year. The boyfriend who cannot be named for legal reasons has now gone on the run and is being hunted by police. The girls body was incapable of supporting the baby. After an emergency caesium to remove the 24 weeks developing baby the girls body couldn’t take the trauma and died at Lincoln county hospital. The parents who knew about the activities are being questioned by police as to why they let this happen.

Those are just 2 stories out of the hundreds that are in the local papers every year, there is at least an article every 3 days on the problems of underage sex and young mothers.

Research has proven that the most stable births i.e. the mother is more likely to look after the child properly, spend time and suffer less pre-natal stress (a condition that can cause premature birth and some birth defects) as well as less cases of post natal depression are between the ages of 27 and 50. The lower the age the more problems and neglect cases have been discovered. It was also proved that between those ages the parents were more financially sound to be able to afford bringing up a child (It was estimated it costs £120k ($213,718) to bring up a child from 0-18 in England.

The bottom line is that when girls fall pregnant early, they loose the ability to have a life, the responsibility in the majority of cases is too much for her and the percentage of problems i.e. neglect, kids turning out highly misbehaved, malnutrition, obesity as well as many birth defects are proven to be related to this. They are not prepared for the time, money and social isolation bringing up a baby involves.

[Ziero]

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And %90 of the time it doesn't happen at all.

Seriously, do you people know nobody over 30 who is a complete idiot when it comes to relationships? And that's the far end-- nearly everyone in a romantic relationship has their judgment clouded by emotions. Fools fall in love, and all that. The idea that someone is going to go from being an easily manipulable idiot to someone who thinks rationally from 16 to 18 is ridiculous.

Swing and a miss! There are far more people over 25 that are capable of having and maintaining a stable long lasting relationship then there is at 16. And most kids at 16 (and yes 16 is still a kid) are far more gullible then someone older then them because of life experiance.

Fixed. The same formula works for all sorts of "a <person> with a <noun> will <beneficial social or emotional thing here>" combinations. "a guy with a bright red sports car will feel like they get more attention."; "a dog with a bone will feel content"; "a taru with his AF2 will feel accomplished". What makes a 16 year old dating a person for their age any worse than a 28 year old dating someone for their money?

A guy with a bright red sports car won't end up bringing a child into this world. A dog with a bone will not end up bringing a child into this world. And a Taru with AF will not bring a child into this world. But a 14/15/16 year old girl dating a 20/25/30 year old man will more often then not. During the teen years, a girl is still developing, both mentally and physically, they are not ready to be mothers at those ages. And while some (far too many as far as I'm concerned) will be forced into the role due to numerous variables, none of them should willingly try to become one because it's not health for them *or* the child they're attempting to create.

[Alinys]

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My immediate reaction would be, "Wow, well that was silly." I don't really frown on people at 16/17, but I do wonder how silly they had to be to not use contraception correctly. If it was done intentionally, well, not my cup of tea but not really a huge deal, eh?

It's the younger ones that bother me. What's with 13-year-olds getting pregnant? I don't understand.

Still, if I'm honest, I would think that a young person was a bit idiotic to put themselves in that position, because they can't possibly have much of a financial situation to speak of, and I can't imagine that the child is going to have a very fulfilling or happy start to life, but hey, not my choice.

[MrMageo]

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meh there is one thing i like about highschool girls, I get older and they stay the same age..

[Feba]

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But a 14/15/16 year old girl dating a 20/25/30 year old man will more often then not.

Only if they're idiots. There are plenty of birth control methods out there to use.

A relationship does not require sex, and sex does not require birth.

[Tipsy]

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A bad relationship does not require sex,

FTFY