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    Obama picks Joe Biden as VP nominee - CNN.com





    (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama has selected Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate, according to his official Web site and a text message the campaign sent to supporters early Saturday.
    Delaware Sen. Joe Biden is Sen. Barack Obama's choice to be his vice-presidential running mate.





    "Barack has chosen Senator Joe Biden to be our VP nominee," the text message, sent at about 3 a.m. ET, said.
    Word that Biden's was Obama's choice first came earlier Saturday morning when Democratic sources confirmed the decision to CNN.
    Obama was expected to appear with Biden at a Saturday afternoon rally in Springfield, Illinois.
    Biden was long considered a likely choice for vice president, but the buzz surrounding him intensified after he returned earlier this week from a two-day trip to the Republic of Georgia after Russian troops invaded.
    Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, brings years of experience that could help counter GOP arguments that an Obama administration would be inexperienced on foreign policy. Watch what Biden would bring to an Obama presidency »
    Sen. John McCain's campaign quickly reacted to word that Biden would be Obama's running mate with a dig at Obama's foreign policy credentials.
    "There has been no harsher critic of Barack Obama's lack of experience than Joe Biden," McCain campaign spokesman Ben Porritt said in a written statement.
    Don't Miss"Biden has denounced Barack Obama's poor foreign policy judgment and has strongly argued in his own words what Americans are quickly realizing -- that Barack Obama is not ready to be president."
    In a debate during the Democratic primary contest, Biden raised questions about Obama's foreign policy experience.
    "Who among us is going to be able on day one to step in an end the war? Who among us understands what to do about Pakistan? Who among us is going to pick up the phone and immediately interface with Putin and tell him to lay off Georgia because Saakashvili is in real trouble. Who among us knows what they're doing? I have 35 years of experience," Biden said.
    During another debate, moderator George Stephanopoulos referred to some of Biden's comments on Obama.
    "You were asked, 'Is he ready?' You said, 'I think he can be ready, but right now, I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training,'" Stephanopoulos said.
    "I think I stand by that statement," Biden replied.
    Biden, in a July interview, said he would choose Obama's judgment over John McCain's war record and foreign policy experience.
    "But 20 years of experience that has not been very solid in terms of projecting what was going to happen just doesn't make you a better commander-in-chief," Biden said. "We don't need as a commander-in-chief a war hero. John's a war hero. We need someone with some wisdom."
    Biden abandoned his own White House run after a poor showing in Iowa's first-in-the-nation caucuses. He also ran for the 1988 Democratic presidential nomination but dropped out after charges of plagiarism in a stump speech.
    The 65-year-old was first elected to the Senate in 1972. Shortly afterwards, his first wife and daughter were killed in a car accident. He considered resigning, but decided to continue with his political career.
    Biden is currently serving out his sixth term, making him Delaware's longest-serving senator.
    Biden is married and has three children. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Delaware and got a law degree from Syracuse.
    In 1988, Biden suffered an aneurysm and nearly died but has recovered fully.
    One of Biden's grandfathers was a Pennsylvania state senator, according to the Almanac of American Politics.





    News of Biden's selection came after word that three Democrats who had been considered contenders, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, had been ruled out. The two Democratic sources who told CNN that Obama had chosen Biden spoke on the condition of anonymity.
    Biden will make his first big speech as the vice-presidential candidate on Wednesday, August 27 -- the third night of the Democratic
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    Wasn't expecting Biden, but not a bad choice.

    Also was REALLY surprised to see they actually did the 3AM text thing.

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      I really don't like that Biden guy. I think he has his fingers in a lot of pies.

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        its washington if you don't have fingers in alot of pies your doing it wrong.

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        • #5
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          I was pretty sure he was gonna take HRC in the end, given all the bitching and the hype but hey, way to not give in Obama!

          They're going to make an appearance @ 3 PM EST today.
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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Sabaron View Post
            I really don't like that Biden guy. I think he has his fingers in a lot of pies.
            Totally agree.
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              Yeah, though I commend him for not giving in, I think Obama may have just shot himself in the foot by not picking HRC. There are an awful lot of Dems who do not like Biden (hell I don't like him)
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                Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                There are an awful lot of Dems who do not like Biden (hell I don't like him)
                But there's no way in hell you're going to vote for McCain as the alternative. Which is really exactly what Obama needs-- Biden is probably not going to drive any noticable amount of supporters away; whereas he IS going to bring in a lot of people who want someone who's more 'in touch' and 'experienced'.
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                Last edited by Feba; 08-23-2008, 11:12 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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                  Originally posted by Malacite View Post
                  Yeah, though I commend him for not giving in, I think Obama may have just shot himself in the foot by not picking HRC. There are an awful lot of Dems who do not like Biden (hell I don't like him)
                  Yeah, I definitely think that Obama choosing HRC would have pretty much sealed the deal for the election, but I can kinda see why he didn't...I don't see HRC being the type to defer to Obama, and I think Obama didn't want to have to deal with it if him and Clinton disagreed on anything, especially with Billy on the sidelines. Don't get me wrong, I like the Clintons, but for a young first-term president I'm not surprised he went the way he did.

                  I don't like Biden very much either, but I don't know if it's going to have too much of an affect on Obama's chances. At least, I hope not...
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                    I was actually hoping he would pick Kennedy... but meh, I suppose Biden brings a lot to the table.
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                      If Obama should get elected and assassinated, it'll be a hayday for all of Biden's cronies, though. Perish the thought. I don't know what his game is but he's definitely got a lot of it going on. I've listened to him chair various hearings on C-Span and I know that I don't like him. He would not be a good president--people know this--which is why he didn't go anywhere in the primaries.

                      As for Obama running with HRC--her dirty campaign just created way to much negative energy for it to be a soluble match-up.

                      If I called you a terrorist-loving fluff-head would you campaign with me?

                      In fact, I don't think that, numerically speaking, you should ever campaign negatively against your own party because it can throw votes to the other side. The only reason you would ever do such a thing is if you (a) didn't care about the platform that your party was running (because you know the party still runs the show), and (b) were only in the race for your own personal gain. HRC is a bonafide Bitch Goddess, IMO, and I would never run with her if I was Obama. That is not to say that I like Biden better... I'm just saying if the party gives you someone you hate and some guy who might do naughty things if you should die, I'd bet on the naughty guy. HRC has been linked (loosely mind you ) to the deaths of various individuals who were involved in her "unusual" real estate dealings. Biden, to my knowledge, hasn't been. I'd be more afraid of being whacked my HRC's goons than Biden's.

                      All though, assassination risk aside, HRC would probably make the better president over Biden.

                      I think if I were picking a running mate the question, "Who is more likely to have me killed in order to seize power?" would weigh heavily on my mind.
                      Last edited by Sabaron; 08-23-2008, 04:06 PM.

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                      • #12
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                        The biggest factor in my presidential voting is willingness to stand up to the last one. By that standard, I'd probably lean towards anyone who picked Dennis Kucinich. But, that Mr. UFO isn't exactly well balanced, even if I do like his opinion of the president.

                        I want a guy who sends black ops agents to Crawford, Texas to put Bush in a black bag, load him onto an unmarked jet, and drop him off at The Hague for a war crimes tribunal. Clearly, I'm not going to get that no matter who I vote for. Of the remaining candidates, though, Biden is probably closest in that direction.

                        HRC is a terrible choice for VP. I think I said in the past that Obama/HRC might be a good ticket, but since then I'm pretty certain this wasn't a good idea. You don't want to run against your VP in 4 years. T.R. did that to Taft, let's not repeat it. The problem with Hillary is that she's in charge. You also have millions of supporters who really don't care if the main candidate has a good idea, they'll only back him if HRC says to. That's not a great situation if you're trying to marshall support for policy changes or social programs. Obama's trying something ambitious with his policies, that'll only succeed if he has support at a grass roots level. If you're constantly having to give up concessions to your VP for that grass roots support, you lack the ability to form a coordinated policy. With HRC's campaign, you wern't backing an idea, you were backing HRC. Not so much the party, or a platform, just Hillary. That's great if she's the main candidate, but lousy if you want her supporters. Her supporters are going to look at you as the guy who cheated her out of the top slot, and they'll only back you as far as they have to. Biden has a bit wider appeal, he can be a follower and a supporter. He's got some issues with polarizing the electorate, but not nearly as bad as HRC would have.

                        Bottom line, Biden's probably a pretty solid choice. Granted, the ticket of a black man and a woman would be really nice, but if you had to be stuck with at least one old white guy, this one isn't the worst you could've done.

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                        • #13
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                          Strategically, I'd say it's a good pick. For the well-being of the country, not really.

                          But then again, VP doesn't mean much.

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                          • #14
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                            Agreed, as far as policy goes, VP doesn't mean much of jack shit. As far as getting votes in the election goes, it means just about everything. VP's can deliver votes you wouldn't have gotten otherwise. As far as HRC goes, the votes you might get for making her your running mate are likely to be outweighed by the votes of silent conservatives who would come out of the woodwork just for the chance to vote against her. Sort of a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' scenario. Not a huge fan of Biden (but most people on here know that I'm farily conservative to start with) but definately not a surprise. As was said, he gives more experience credential to the ticket than he had beforehand.
                            Still very curious to see who McCain takes. I think Romney is his best politicial choice, but who the hell knows in this day and age.
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                              Historically, I believe, the post of VP has been used to limit certain internally unpopular politician's involvement in legislature. Since the VP doesn't really have any power except when there is a tie in the senate, it's technically the least powerful post in Washington.

                              Additionally, the President and the Vice President aren't really encouraged to "hang out" together so they don't both die of the same thing--it's that whole protection of the chain of succession thing, so at best the VP is a remote adviser.

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