Crazed Passenger decapitates seat mate - or WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

[Jonastb]

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On a side note, how the fuck did this discussion go from the crime to obesity?

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[Yellow Mage]

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On a side note, how the fuck did this discussion go from the crime to obesity?

The magic of the interwebs.

[Ameroth]

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On a side note, how the fuck did this discussion go from the crime to obesity?

It's in the title: WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

[BurningPanther]

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WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???!?!?

Betcha god told him to do it.

[cadoxangelus]

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Ho-ly crap. I....I'm just not sure what goes through peoples minds anymore. Things like this makes we wonder why i go out in public at all...

[Satimasu]

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So, they don't even say who this guy is? Why not? I'm sure they could have figured out his identity by now.

The things you can see as a trucker...

[Sabaron]

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My question is, not what's wrong with the dude that stabbed the guy... That's obvious...

What the FUCK is wrong with the other people on the bus?!

Some dude starts stabbing someone on the bus and you....

(a) Stop him.
(b) Run like a complete wuss out of the bus and let the kid die and be decapitated.

The people on the bus chose (b): Let him kill the kid....

Fuck them all, they deserve to be traumatized.

I would gladly watch all of the other passengers be slaughtered in a similar manner in exchange for a single person who would stand up and be that kid's hero. I'm amazed that out of the 50 people on that bus, all of them were spineless assholes that would sooner watch you die than expose themselves (collectively) to the threat of a single knife-wielding maniac.

Of course, you realize that this means that I could probably conquer and become tyrannical ruler of Canada with some gumption and a pen knife....

[Feba]

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Sabaron: Way to judge the people who were actually in that situation without being there yourself! For all we know, the kid could've been easily dead before anyone noticed anything, let along being able to act.

[Aksannyi]

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Sabaron: Way to judge the people who were actually in that situation without being there yourself! For all we know, the kid could've been easily dead before anyone noticed anything, let along being able to act.

This is actually the impression I got, that no one noticed until it was far too late to save him.

[Karinya]

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That, and the fact that the first person to try to stop the knife-wielding maniac is also known as the second victim of the knife-wielding maniac.

Heck, even the police (aka the professionals that you should leave this to instead of trying it at home) don't try to go hand-to-hand and disarm people like that. (Well, maybe the Canadian police do, idk.) They order the person to drop their weapon and if they don't, bang.

[Satimasu]

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Now we know who the guy is...

Police identify Canadian bus attack suspect

[Sabaron]

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Sabaron: Way to judge the people who were actually in that situation without being there yourself! For all we know, the kid could've been easily dead before anyone noticed anything, let along being able to act.

Yes, I'll just sit quietly and be stabbed. True, he could've been killed quickly, but who knows? If he was, fine... You win... If he wasn't, I win. You don't know either. You're simply assuming he was already dead by the time anyone could've helped him. I've simply assumed the opposite.

This is the same cowherd (well, if no one else is going to do anything than neither am I) mentality that allows terrorist hijackers to fly planes into buildings while in the presence of 150 people who would normally be opposed to the act sit quietly and die in the crash rather than lift one finger to prevent it.

If one man charges, others will aid him.

If one man screams and runs like a frightened child, others will run over him to get away.

People are sheep.

Direct the sheep to do the right thing.

[Feba]

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True, he could've been killed quickly, but who knows?

Um, maybe the people on the bus? From, you know, the article at the very first post of this thread?

All of a sudden, we all heard this scream, this bloodcurdling scream. The attacker was standing up right over the top of the guy with a large hunting knife - a survival, Rambo knife - holding the guy and continually stabbing him... in the chest area,

Literacy is fun!



It is also made VERY clear that the bus was in motion (the driver had to pull over); which would make it additionally hard to fight back.

This is the same cowherd (well, if no one else is going to do anything than neither am I) mentality that allows terrorist hijackers to fly planes into buildings while in the presence of 150 people who would normally be opposed to the act sit quietly and die in the crash rather than lift one finger to prevent it.

WRONG. On 9/11, people figured it was just like pretty much every other hijacking ever-- they were told that they were being taken back to the airport, as well as being told that there were bombs on board (as in, 'if you resist, we will detonate them'). When people onboard the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania heard that the aircraft were being used as missles, and it was NOT just some terrorists making monetary demands or somesuch, they DID fight back.

You're insulting everyone who was in those planes, and on that bus, without even doing basic research on what happened. You're also insulting yourself by appearing so arrogant that you feel you don't even need to do the research.

[Sabaron]

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Feba:

Honestly, I have no idea why I ever bother to engage you in conversation. You're just quoting the article and applying whatever meaning you can think of that supports your conclusions.

By "Who knows", I didn't mean the people on the bus... I meant you--You (and by extension members of the general population who read that article) don't know what happened.

The quote from the article (which I read) doesn't say. "The guy was dead before we could do anything." It says that the guy screamed and was being stabbed.

Then it says that "The attack continued as passengers fled the bus..."

At no point does the article indicate that the man was dead during the early part of the attack. In fact, it indicates EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE:

"Mr Caton, the bus driver and a trucker who had stopped at the scene boarded the vehicle to see if the victim was still alive. "

Therefore, after the people were fleeing the bus, NO ONE KNEW if the guy was dead. Two guys went in after evacuating the bus to see if the victim was alive. This directly contradicts your assertion.


As for the motion of the bus, if you can stab a dude to death on a moving bus, you can stop a dude from stabbing a dude to death on a moving bus--They both have the same handicap since they are on the same bus.

You can insult my intelligence by saying that I didn't read the article and/or that I do not have the capacity to read which is plainly obvious to anyone who attempts to read the incoherent sequences of characters I so rapidly type out (I did read it, I just didn't read it with your troll brain), but I'm done discussing this with you provided you have nothing useful to say other than groundless insults and "World According to Feba" factoids.

Yes, I am insulting the people on the bus if there was something they could have done to save the kid. If there was nothing they could have done, then it makes no difference.

As for the people on the 9-11 planes... Do people like being hijacked? Don't terrorists usually do things like "kill hostages" if their demands aren't met? Would you rather face your hijackers when they're wielding box cutters (which would be very difficult to lethally wound someone with) or when they've got you tied up and gagged in some clandestine bunker in the middle of BFE after they get their assault rifles? I'd rather fight the guy with the box cutter, even if I assumed it was just a "regular" terrorist/hostage situation, wouldn't you?

[Feba]

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The quote from the article (which I read) doesn't say. "The guy was dead before we could do anything." It says that the guy screamed and was being stabbed.

Yes. And obviously being "continually stabbed in the chest" isn't almost sure to kill anyone. Oh, wait, it is.

Therefore, after the people were fleeing the bus, NO ONE KNEW if the guy was dead. Two guys went in after evacuating the bus to see if the victim was alive.

No, THOSE PEOPLE did not know. There is not a lot of coordination between bus passengers and a driver who are obviously not trained to deal with a crisis when someone is being disemboweled. It was chaos. Again, read the article.

As for the motion of the bus, if you can stab a dude to death on a moving bus, you can stop a dude from stabbing a dude to death on a moving bus

Wrong again. The person stabbing was obviously in a much better position than anyone else-- he was in the same seat row, which meant he didn't have to walk back and forth. The seats also would've helped to keep him steady; along with the guy he was holding on to.

Yes, I am insulting the people on the bus if there was something they could have done to save the kid. If there was nothing they could have done, then it makes no difference.

Except you're still insulting, and blaming, them. And hell, even if they could've saved the victim, it's possible that more people would've wound up dead as a result of fighting.

As for the people on the 9-11 planes... Do people like being hijacked? Don't terrorists usually do things like "kill hostages" if their demands aren't met? Would you rather face your hijackers when they're wielding box cutters (which would be very difficult to lethally wound someone with) or when they've got you tied up and gagged in some clandestine bunker in the middle of BFE after they get their assault rifles? I'd rather fight the guy with the box cutter, even if I assumed it was just a "regular" terrorist/hostage situation, wouldn't you?

There are so many things that are just silly about this. Most hijackings did not end up with hostages being killed, let alone every single one of them, which is almost certainly what they believed would happen (again, they were told there was a bomb on the aircraft). They were told that things would be ok. And why would you fight a hijacker if they posed no threat to your life, as long as you complied with reasonable demands (not fighting them)? You might be enraged against any sort of terrorist action, post-9/11, but fighting back was NOT a good option then. According to all of the knowledge they had available to them, they were FAR more likely to cause injury than to prevent it. You're assuming the default position is to fight against anyone who makes a hostile action; but that's really not the wise thing to do.