Obama Wins!!! ^ _ ^

[Skoal]

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DNC convention

What? They have a DNC convention? When are they going to have one for DRG?

[Feba]

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What? They have a DNC convention? When are they going to have one for DRG?

[Andrinor]

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I for one would be amazed to see him pick Biden, Clinton, Edwards, or any "known" political commodity. He ran on a platform of change which I believe is really what carried him through the primary. Picking one of them as a running mate really detracts from that.

I've heard rumblings he might go with Kathleen Sebelius, and I like this idea. She's a democrat who can reach across the aisle (KS is a decidedly republican state) and it would help him reach out to women voters who may feel angry about Clinton not winning. It also keeps him on the platform that got him there to begin with since she's not a Washington insider.

Clark is interesting, but I don't buy it. There are too many radical elements within the party that would reject that choice simply because of the military background. Clark's also not a guy who's ~that~ popular with the actual military leaders who advise the president. Better to run on the platform of change and champion a strong relationship with the joint chiefs than to go with Clark, imho.

[Satimasu]

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It's time for change. Still waiting for him to say what kind...

[Malacite]

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Have you been living under a rock the past 16 months?

[Satimasu]

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If a truck is a rock, then yeah...

[Tipsy]

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Depends if your truck is made of rocks.

Also, I don't really have an opinion on who I think is better because, no one is better than anyone. One of them just has more money than the other and is just better at telling the world what they think it wants to hear. However, I will agree with someone who has already posted this that there is far too much racism that exists in the United States... the world for that matter and and his chances are so very slim because of that. But, anything can happen. So no matter who you're rooting for try not to get all upset when you read someone else's opinion on who they want to win because, I'm sure they feel the same way when they read your's.

[Feba]

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Where do people get the idea that racism is really that big of a problem for him? Upwards of %90 of Americans have no problems voting for a black man.

Here, found an old gallup poll Black President More Likely than Mormon or Atheist � Outside The Beltway | OTB

Polls also show Obama and McCain as being nearly neck and neck right now.

Now, polls aren't the most reliable thing in the world, but the idea that his race is going to keep him from winning the election is ridiculous. It's the other slander (the whole "Hussien" and Muslim crap) that's going to have a far larger effect. And then the few people who actually like Bush policies enough to want a third term of it.

EDIT: oh, another thing, McCain's age is probably going to be more of a barrier than Obama's race.

[Tipsy]

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Gallup can't really speak for the millions of Americans who vote..

[Feba]

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No, but the millions of Americans that vote can speak through them.

[Tipsy]

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I doubt that poll surveyed millions of people.

[Feba]

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And your doctor doesn't have to take all of the blood out of your body to find out what's wrong with you either. Samples, buddy.

[Tipsy]

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Exactly why polls are meaningless

[Andrinor]

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Polls are interesting but not necessarily all that accurate. They can't even get the exit polls correct (Florida 2000 anyone?) when people have just voted, so polls in June about what people will actually do in November are dubious at best. It also doesn't reflect the electoral college accurately (leading by 10 points in CA is a lot different than leading by 10 points in Wyoming in terms of electoral college votes, but in some of these polls they take an equal sample from across the states)

Not to mention, 5 months is an eternity politically for these guys to screw up and say/do something that kills their candidacy.

In any event, it's a more interesting general election than we've had in a long time. Both candidates will have an opportunity to win my vote over the coming months. We'll see how they do ^^b

[Feba]

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Polls are to show current public opinion, not to predict the future. Are they precise? No. Are they reasonably accurate enough to get an idea of the current opinion? Usually, if the sample base is large enough.